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  • NS Earth Battery / Self Sustaining Induction Coil

    Hey PJ, excellent work that you posted for all of the folks! As for the permeable material, I think that would be 100 % cotton that he used to wrap the copper winding as well as the Bolt to start with. You are also recommended to wrap with cotton between layers of metal windings. I really appreciate your effort above.



    Kingman

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    • But Wait There's More!

      Roger that Kingman,

      I've begun my attempt at replication.

      Making it manifest in the physical is revealing the shortcomings of the patent description and my assumptions.

      I am first limiting myself to the materials and construction clearly stated in the patent and my initial assumptions about what Nate means by words like "ordinary" "equivalent" and "similar". i.e. materials and manufactured goods that might be commonly available to a man in Murray Kentucky 100 years ago. He doesn't use the words zinc, steel, aluminum, dielectric, galvanic or capillary action, but I am an un-educated hillbilly, so at least I've got that going for me.

      And, I happen to be sitting next to my brother-in-laws salt water pool with telemetry reporting SALT at 2900PPM. He's helping with the fabrication and thinks this is all really GROOVY.

      Anyhoo, my first hack at it aint as pretty as Nate's drawings. It looks more like a BAGDAD BATTERY and so far it's a LOSER. I did use cotton though. I tried paper first but it kept tearing

      Also, I reckon there is more left out of the drawings than just the connection between 5 and 6 (see NS2.pdf).

      PEACE
      PJ
      Last edited by sigzidfit; 12-13-2008, 07:03 AM. Reason: i'm an idiot
      A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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      • Bugger my coils useless got the wroung materials chaps.
        Looks like Im doing some digging soon No forget that!!!!! I will leave the crap coil in and build a brother for it. Got to be lonely down there

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        • Sorry for the delay on the data but here's the first of it.

          1 good sized iron or steel nail (cant say for sure what the exact chemistry is there lets call it Fabriqué en Chine) for the core not sure of the size designation but it's uncoated (no zinc)

          Approximately 7' of 16 gauge iron or steel (Fabriqué en Chine) wire. Used soap and water to wash off the cosmo cuz it smelled like a brand new AK47 (Whoa, scent triggered memory ).

          Approximately 7' of 18 gauge solid core 2 conductor wire labeled "Thermostat Wire". We stripped off the weather resistant coating and ended up with two equal wires. One for the battery and one for the solenoid.

          Wrapped the nail in paper.

          Wound on 1 steel and one copper wire around around that with cotton bed sheet for insulation (no paper in that part like the patent says but Nate did give us a little slack so I guess we used it there).

          Wrapped the battery in more paper then wound the second coil there.

          wrapped the outside with a layer of clear packing tape (did they have adhesives in 1898 ?? dunno)

          We used a glazed ceramic piece for what is called a "jar" in the patent. There is a cork for a lid but it's not in use.

          We let the battery sit in the pool over night. Then the following morning put the meter on it and reads just over 1/2 a volt and just shy of 250ma. (0.5mA actually I didn't know how to read the meter)

          Nothing spectacular but I reckon you can say there is some energy there. The turns on the coil are obviously shorting on each other so theres nothing extraordinary going on there YET.

          I'm leaving the unit with my brother-in-law here in Florida. He's gonna do a rebuild with love and care adding some precision and experience while he's at it.

          I get to work on another one just as soon as I get home to New Mexico.

          Stay tuned.

          Peace
          PJ
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          Last edited by sigzidfit; 02-06-2009, 07:31 AM. Reason: erroneous reporting
          A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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          • NS Earth Battery Replication

            Hi Sigzidfit, awesome work! you are obviously one step closer to understanding how NS built his Coil. Hands on is the best teacher. Keep up the great work. I can see where it will be a problem if the windings are shorting themselves out! Maybe the next step is to keep a meter handy set on ohms scale to run a test after a few windings to make sure it is not shorting itself out but I'm sure you have figured that out.. Keep up the good work for you will succeed!


            Kingman

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            • Update Garage / LED

              Hi Bodkins, Sigzidfit, and All, Here is an update on the Garage / LED that I have been monitoring more closely since the LED almost went totally out and now is back up to full brightness for no apparent reason and has set a new HIGH voltage since the two previous dead conditions that this setup has experienced. Here is a list of readings after the LED was almost dead the 12th. of December and yet giving me more surprises.

              12/12/08 the voltage had dropped below 2 volts.
              12/13/08 Saturday morning around 8:25 am 2.05 VDC
              12/13/08 Saturday 9:25 PM 2.25 VDC
              12/13/08 Saturday 10:25 PM 2.35 VDC
              12/13/08 Saturday 11:30 PM 2.49 VDC
              12/14/08 Sunday 12:32 AM 2.63 VDC
              12/14/08 Sunday 1:30 AM 2.76 VDC
              12/14/08 Sunday 11:30 AM 3.14 VDC
              12/14/08 Sunday 1:17 PM 3.16 VDC
              12/14/08 Sunday 4:00 PM 3.49 VDC
              12/14/08 Sunday 5:25 PM 4.15 VDC
              12/14/08 Sunday 6:00 PM 4.19 VDC Highest so Far!
              12/14/08 Sunday 6:40 PM 4.15 VDC
              12/14/08 Sunday 10:40 PM 3.87 VDC


              Results Posted to Thread. I will continue to log results.
              Note: we have been experiencing some bad weather that might be resulting in the reading going up on the battery.

              Kingman

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              • Bodkins Tree



                Made it home alive.
                A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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                • Thanks Gauss

                  I quote(summary): " The top of all trees is always a north magnetic monopole while the south magnetic monopoles all migrate to the root system as they are attracted to soil, rocks and stones. The north magnetic monopoles are attracted to the leaves. This gives the tree a magnetic dipole charge. The roots act as wave guides for south poles to run up through plant stem and recombine with north magnetic poles, their former mates. A good conductor of magnetic monopoles is the opposite to an insulated conductor. The core of the plant root stem is a wood-like material like cellulose(plastic) covered by a barklike material which contains water like sap which is an electric conductor."


                  Things are going all woody for me at the mo!!!
                  Its my desktop

                  Ps Have you seen davidE splitting the negative thread
                  Last edited by Bodkins; 12-16-2008, 04:19 AM.

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                  • Kingman's NS Make & Break Test Bed.

                    Hi All, here are a couple of pictures of what I have been working on to help facilitate a stable platform on which to perform experiments of various types and designs of the "Make and Break" devices that would work between post 5 and 6 of Nathan's Self Sustaining Induction Coil. I still have a few things to add to the test bed but it will serve me very well in being able to test different devices. I still have to create a magnet holder that will give me the flexibility to move a magnet around various places of the coil body for in previous test I have found this to be a benefit in the operation of my existing design.

                    Kingman
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                    • hi kingman
                      theres alot of thing you can do with the setup you have
                      have fun playing

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                      • Bullet Proof

                        Ok Kingman,

                        You can see mine here.
                        Justin.tv - Tesla Switch - Live Streaming Video

                        There's archives if you cant catch it live.

                        The red led indicates when the rotor is turning.

                        Peace
                        PJ
                        Last edited by sigzidfit; 12-17-2008, 08:21 AM.
                        A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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                        • Excellent!

                          Thats fine work Kingman.

                          Peace
                          PJ
                          A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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                          • The tree

                            Trigger one end to ground other the potential difference? Tree?

                            sigzidfit@ your volt meter was on 5.32 and on the up COOL.

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                            • Thanks,

                              Hi Bodkins and Sigzidfit, thanks for your kind words of encouragement about the test bed. I really appreciate it. I'm going to do some more mods that include a standard DC power supply with a rheostat that I can fine tune the incoming voltage below the lowest point available (1.5 VDC) on this particular adjustable power supply. I will need to be able to dial in 1/2 to 3/4 of a volt DC to be in the ball park of what the NS coil will produce on its worst day. I'm comfortable with the possibility of being able to keep the coil voltage around 1 to 1.5 volts consistently with either adding the magnesium anode or tree power to the mix. I have a tree in my back yard that is giving me almost 1 clean volt of DC. Unfortunately it is a fairly young tree but I'm also considering erecting a mast and placing a Tesla type antenna on it to up the potential between the devices. You know, put a little fun in the mix! So if you add it up, we'll have the NS earth battery + magnesium anode + Tree power + Tesla Antenna + Bullet proof make and break device and several step up coils and the possibilities are endless.
                              Of course my objective is to make light and heat. What more could you ask for Christmas?


                              Having to much FUN,
                              Kingman
                              Do the thing and you will get the energy to do the thing!

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                              • What more could you ask for Christmas?

                                Hi kingman,Sigzidfit

                                Its Christmas
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