Earth Battery SG

[sigzidfit]

Doh!

Gentlemen,

My deepest apologies for polluting this thread with my steep learning curve.

All the diagrams of my SG posted previously are incorrect.

Seems I had the wires crossed and all connections to the base were actually to the collector and all connections to the collector were actually to the base. (I'll edit my drawings ASAP so at least the data will be correct.)

I could tell the girl just wasn't right, she never had been and it was really bugging me. The pot had burned out, so I took the girl apart and while I was there decided I'd test the transistor. Well, I confirmed that the tranny was good, and in so doing I discovered I didn't know my base from my collector.

Cut me a little slack, this is my first experience with transistors. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed...but I am a tool.

Armed with my new found knowledge, I set about rewiring the SG as per Ihmotep's method. Still no dice. I just couldn't make it run any way except the bass-akwards way and that just didn't satisfy me.

So I wired the machine according to the diagram over at the (official?) yahoo group Bedini_Monopole3 : Bedini_Monopole3

WOW!!

TOTAL TRANSFORMATION!

The action at the charging position is scary now, and she spins so hard that I'm going to have to clamp it down, it wants to take off flying. Still no light in the neon but there's definitely some high energy in there because she bit me and it hurt. I have a new respect for the School Girl. And I won't be so cavalier about grabbing her ever again.

She sure does run alot different now. I'll get back to ya'll when I can...I'll be busy correcting the drawings and learning how to drive the SG again.

Peace
PJ

[stringguy]

patience and humor, , , awesome

[Inquorate]

Tools

If it wasn't for us dunces who don't know our anode from our collector we wouldn't have learnt anything new.

Keep up the good work :-)

[sigzidfit]

Neon

I'd call that color ORANGE like the SUN.



The full rez photo has some very very very interesting artifacts.

Peace
PJ

[Bodkins]

I'd call that color ORANGE like the SUN.



The full rez photo has some very very very interesting artifacts.

Peace
PJ

Nice one Brother now charge charge charge ,,, dont forget the sweetspot!!
it works better with the blades on she something to push against
Back in a couple of week got some eggs to break

[sigzidfit]

Broke Down

Yes Bodkins, I think I was finding the sweetspot. The neon helps with that.

I was starting to get some good charging going on but a wire on the coil broke. It was the wire on the inside of the wrap so there's not enough exposed to solder it back and I can't pull out more. I'm working on rewinding the coil now.

I cut the blades off cuz there's no guard and the wires kept getting caught in the blades. I did however wrap the outer edge of the rotor with tape about 5/16ths of an inch thick. Its pretty well balanced and while there's now very little resistance from the air, the weight is greater than before. I was hoping for a benefit from the increased rotational mass. My previous experiments with the tesla turbine/pump indicate that a rotating mass acts like a capacitor. Also there's more to come with my simple maker breaker.

I've got the parts together for a second unit. As soon as I get number one back on her feet again, I'll try to get her a bigger (24v donor fan) sister going. I will leave the blades intact on Big Sister. I got the donor apart without breaking the frame so she should work good as a fan.

Also on the table, I got some Alum from the grocery and am seeking a dry charged (without electrolyte) lead acid to construct the lead alkaline battery.

Research on the earth battery front has yielded the following relevant information:

Earth battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Daniel McFarland Cook's Electro-Magnetic Battery

Magnetic battery - Google Patents

Pulse generator - Google Patents

I've got some other patents and stuff that shows how to play magnetism with batteries. I'm gonna have to go back through my notes to get it, but it's coming.

I can smell disinformation and information suppression a mile away and I'm smelling it strong with better batteries, pulsed magnetic fields, and that burst of energy manifested through making and breaking electrical contact.

I've got quite a bit up my sleeve brothers and sisters. I'm not hiding anything or being stingy, but I don't like looking stupid, and allowing others to steal my thunder is equivalent to casting pearls before swine. I won't name names or recount incidents but I have seen it around here and those that do it are very well practiced at it and slick.

Bully's and liars are weak. The only real power they have is what their victims give them. I don't wish to in any way hinder the development of others, so I'm trying to proceed carefully.

My deepest regards to all of you who have freely given. May you also freely receive.



Peace
PJ

[Bodkins]

I too have a Ace up My sleave My friend and i Must say you did point me in the right direction with some patents from Meissner. Have looked at the cooks stuff when i was try to do the aspden stuff.

good luck I hope you Have sucess with all you Do.

[sigzidfit]

The number one girl is back on line. I re-wound the coil with bigger wire. Don't know what size it is (i scrounged it out of a faraday flashlight and a cat door electromagnet and twisted them together) it's at least twice as big as the original coil wires. Forgive me I also forgot to count the number of wraps...I reckon fewer than before with bigger wire. I just wrapped on as much as would fit.

It is running pretty well.

What looks like the "sweet spot" to me is 0.03 amps draw from the source with over 20 v between the contacts at the charge position.

The speed on the rotor at this setting may be around 530 rpms...not sure how to measure without a tach. Also the speed isn't constant...it builds and slows almost like breathing.

The coil on number two (bigger rotor and stator) is finished. I wrapped it with the larger wire too. 150 turns per leg on he stator (600 total). She's not together yet but I have high hopes for her.

Peace
PJ

[ldissing]

Coil

Finally built a "real" coil, but the wires are probably not big enough and the "bolt" either.

About the same results as the pipes in the ground, .... still working on it. I can see some interesting things, but need amperage to get it to work well. Amperage at small voltages is a must.


L

P.S. Timothy Thrapp had some interesting tings to say about earth batteries, like getting 5 amps out of one if 6 gauge wire is used....interesting. This guy could or may not be legit....been arrested, but if you haven't been arrested, you haven't done anything useful either....

[sigzidfit]

ldissing,

So far my experience with the NS patent replication experiments indicate that more material does not a better battery make.

I guess I've made 4 or 5 NS type batteries and they have all been pretty small and the smallest ones have been the best ones.

It seems to me (at this scale at least) the chemistry and configuration of the materials rather than mass has the most effect.

As for it all and in particular the mysteries of the coil, I must say I have so much yet to learn that I find all of your observations very interesting.

Peace
PJ

[ldissing]

ldissing,

So far my experience with the NS patent replication experiments indicate that more material does not a better battery make.

I guess I've made 4 or 5 NS type batteries and they have all been pretty small and the smallest ones have been the best ones.

It seems to me (at this scale at least) the chemistry and configuration of the materials rather than mass has the most effect.

As for it all and in particular the mysteries of the coil, I must say I have so much yet to learn that I find all of your observations very interesting.

Peace
PJ

I thank you for the ? compliment on observations!

Would you care to elaborate on the make up of the most effective coil? I'd be interested in the collaboration.

Earth batteries are by far the most effective means of deriving free energy, as the earth is always present, batteries run down. I'm not trying to say that other researchers have not found an abundance of energy, it is all around us, but if we can utilize the earth battery to achieve the initial effect, we can do all that is possible with batteries as well....it is a battery in essence or at least in effect.

I do not want to design every kind of earth battery possible to find the most effective one....it is very time consuming. Just to build the one I have took several hours and, of course, cost me money which is not all that abundant. Money is, of course, an allusion of which I'm well aware, but merchants don't want to just give me the materials I would require.

Thanks,

L

[sigzidfit]

I no longer own the best example I ever made. I gave it to a hippy.

I can't say exactly what it was made of. But I'll try to describe it.

The core piece was a shiny steel shaft a couple of inches long, 1/8th dia. and slightly magnetic. I dug out it of a CD Rom Drive. It was the shaft that the drawer rides in and out on on a linear bearing. Steel + Chrome? Zinc? Nickle? I don't know.

The insulating material was the paper from gas receipts.

The steel wire was approximately 2 feet long (maybe less). A little smaller than a paper clip in diameter. I dug it out of a very long garbage bag twist tie. It's not shiny. It has a more satin reflective quality. Steel + Stainless? Tin? Again I don't know.

The copper wires, 1 for the battery 1 for the coil, were both strands from some big speaker wire. The diameter was larger than the steel wire and the length was the same.

It was all wound with care nothing shorting to anything or itself.

It sat vertically in a glass jar maybe 2" in diameter by 2" tall. The jar was filled with a potting soil mixed with some clay soil with sand/gravel bits from the yard and moistened fully with rain water.

It would put out .850mv with amperage at rest and would charge up to 1.5v easily and hold the charge.

Cant say much more than that about it...gave it away before I started fooling around with the SG so there ya go. I think I've got enough of the material left over to do another. I'll report if another good one comes together.

Peace
PJ

[ldissing]

It would put out .850mv with amperage at rest and would charge up to 1.5v easily and hold the charge.

Peace
PJ

PJ, thank you for the description. You say "with amperage", what kind of amperage are you speaking of? 100 uA, 1 mA, 100 mA, 5 Amps? Now, I know it wasn't 5 amps, but could you give me a ball park....I don't even know what mine is putting out, but it is small at present.

I have up to 3 volts from ground level on a scope up to the peak, and it, of course, also goes below ground level to about the same value, so that would be 6 volts peak to peak. It does seem to have gotten stronger with time, but I need to measure the amperage. These small voltages need a high amperage to get any usable power from them so that the third coil can produce a high voltage which can then be used to drive a coil on a motor, or a generator, etc. I know that I don't have the amperage right now.

Mine is in the earth, not in a container. It did get stronger when I watered it....just like a living plant...it is a living thing.

L

[boguslaw]

There are other patents about Earth battery beside Stubblefield. Did you find them ? At least one suggest that effect is visible only when battery is placed in strict relation to Earth magnetic field.Many other patents suggest the same for other inventions.Interesting huh ?

[ldissing]

There are other patents about Earth battery beside Stubblefield. Did you find them ? At least one suggest that effect is visible only when battery is placed in strict relation to Earth magnetic field.Many other patents suggest the same for other inventions.Interesting huh ?

I've looked at several, but did not see one stating to place in relation (I'm assuming horizontal and N-S orientation) to the Earth's magnetic field. Could you point me to one or a few of these patents.

I did not put mine in a horizontal orientation, because I do not think that is what Stubblefield did, but that was a conclusion that I came to without reading the patents....it just makes more sense to place it horizontally and in a N-S orientation.

Thanks for the comment/question....

L