Earth Battery SG

[Pirate88179]

Earth Battery Lights 200 LEDs!!!

My earth battery lighting 200 leds:

YouTube - Earth Battery Lights 200 LEDs

I am not happy with the video quality on this one. It looked great until I uploaded it. Looks like something happened to the exposure. But, that's ok, I am going for 300 next.



Bill

[Bodkins]

cant help but wonder what would happen if a joule thief or two were burried in the ground.....
the really good thing about pirates EB is that it will work in the areas where they need it most, like africa.
its totally wet where i live most days, but i'm sure that could be an advantige somehow.
ok, still wrestling with my 3055 and computer monitor ferrite bead. when i suceed, i'll bury it/them. sounds weird i know....

Nice one Andy.
Im trying to do the pirate eb with a jt at 512k the healing freq.(heart of the chakra) and the colour green freq. Plants are green so this should make my food grow better too. give me light too.

Ive been thinking about the coil winding, I feel that rodin coil winding will be a shift in the way we look at geometric stucture and energy.

the way i see it three coils matching the schmman freqs,
one ground one water one air.
lighting needs the three part to be lighting.
also a triangle of 56.6 degree for the 3 parts.

Bill have you tryed a triangle for the ground rods? this may not word because the triangle need to be in tune with the switch. ie. the lenght of the wave to the size of the triangle. JT in middle of triangle.

at work, not watched the video yet bill.

take care all
B

[stringguy]

@vortex: thanks for posting that helpfull info

@bodkins: your more out there than me even, ha.
plants reflect green, hmmm. isnt the sun green?

@pirate: wow, 200!! theres no stoping you now !
hoist the main gunwhale and all that! yar !

[Bodkins]

if Im not out they, someone will take my place.
now i stuck on the green sun.

the potenial difference is key, The two strings of the bow are played (the sound like echo in the stressfeild of the Earth)
the JT in the air, is the Air to Earth potenial difference,
We see that if you add the tube to the setup the Air to Earth potenial difference is more........... more visual.

Well done Bill of the light SHow!!!

[DrStiffler]

thank you

I have just ordered 3X Super Capacitor charges in seconds 20 Farad 2.5Volt.

@Bodkins

Sorry I missed something here, so you have an earth battery that charges 20F to 2.5V in seconds? How many seconds?

If it is (one) second that is (20*(2.5^2))/2 = 62.5J/s and if we figure power this should be 62.5/3600 = 17.36mW/Hr., is this good?

Maybe I totally did not understand your post.

Dr.S.

[DrStiffler]

My earth battery lighting 200 leds:

YouTube - Earth Battery Lights 200 LEDs

I am not happy with the video quality on this one. It looked great until I uploaded it. Looks like something happened to the exposure. But, that's ok, I am going for 300 next.



Bill

@Bill

Great work fellow!

Hey could you do a simple test for me, (two minutes). I have includes a diagram of how to do it and could you post the voltage you read from it with your 200 LEDS? Thanks.......

Dr.S.

[ren]

Pirate Welcome. Glad to have you here.

Loved the earth batts running loads. Look forward to seeing some of your work in more detail.

An ebay page for those who are interested in some high Farad Caps. I remember seeing a battery shaped cap for $150 bucks a while ago, it had a huge rating. I cant seem to find them now.

eBay – 3 or More Farad, Capacitors and Installation Products items on eBay.com. Find IT on eBay.

regards

[Pirate88179]

@Bill

Great work fellow!

Hey could you do a simple test for me, (two minutes). I have includes a diagram of how to do it and could you post the voltage you read from it with your 200 LEDS? Thanks.......

Dr.S.

Hey Doc! Haven't seen you in a while, how the research going?

I will be happy to try this test but let me see if I understand. if I read that correctly, all you want me to do is to put that resistor in parallel to the string of leds and the meter? My background is machining and engineering not electronics although, I am learning a lot.

The way this is set up now, there is no way the EB can run any of the big stuff I have been running on its own. My output is about 2 volts at around 10 mA's. I sort of view this like solar. A solar cell can't run your house but, it can charge batteries for free (once paid for) that can run your house. Like the example of the dripping water filling a water tower. You get it full enough and you can do anything you want that demands a high flow of water....for a while. But, the dripping can't keep up with the demand forever.

This is why I have ordered a 650 F supercap (2.7 volts) and later, I hope to get the 3,000 F (2.7 volt) supercap. These work like batteries in that they don't appear to just dump all of the energy at once and they fill up very quickly, although not as fast as a regular cap. They have millions of cycles without degrading. I love them.

Good to see you again.

Bill

[Pirate88179]

Pirate Welcome. Glad to have you here.

Loved the earth batts running loads. Look forward to seeing some of your work in more detail.

An ebay page for those who are interested in some high Farad Caps. I remember seeing a battery shaped cap for $150 bucks a while ago, it had a huge rating. I cant seem to find them now.

eBay – 3 or More Farad, Capacitors and Installation Products items on eBay.com. Find IT on eBay.

regards

Ren:

Thanks for the welcome. Also, thanks for the link, I will check it out. I have found that the price on these items varies wildly. I see some selling supercaps of 10F for the price you can get a 650 F cap. As usual, it pays to shop around. Gadgetmall on OU.com (His webpage was posted earlier above) is selling 2.7 volt 650 F supercaps for I believe $55.00. These are larger than a tuna can it looks like. Nice cap. I have ordered one.

Bill

[Bodkins]

@Bodkins

Sorry I missed something here, so you have an earth battery that charges 20F to 2.5V in seconds? How many seconds?

If it is (one) second that is (20*(2.5^2))/2 = 62.5J/s and if we figure power this should be 62.5/3600 = 17.36mW/Hr., is this good?

Maybe I totally did not understand your post.

Dr.S.

I have only order them it just the advert (charges in secords)

[DrStiffler]

Hey Doc! Haven't seen you in a while, how the research going?

I will be happy to try this test but let me see if I understand. if I read that correctly, all you want me to do is to put that resistor in parallel to the string of leds and the meter? My background is machining and engineering not electronics although, I am learning a lot.

The way this is set up now, there is no way the EB can run any of the big stuff I have been running on its own. My output is about 2 volts at around 10 mA's. I sort of view this like solar. A solar cell can't run your house but, it can charge batteries for free (once paid for) that can run your house. Like the example of the dripping water filling a water tower. You get it full enough and you can do anything you want that demands a high flow of water....for a while. But, the dripping can't keep up with the demand forever.

This is why I have ordered a 650 F supercap (2.7 volts) and later, I hope to get the 3,000 F (2.7 volt) supercap. These work like batteries in that they don't appear to just dump all of the energy at once and they fill up very quickly, although not as fast as a regular cap. They have millions of cycles without degrading. I love them.

Good to see you again.

Bill

@Bill

Maybe I screwed up, I thought the 100 LED video (just up a few posts) was run from a JT that was powered from an EB, if I got it right here is how to do the test and why I ask, if I got it wrong then don't take the time.

The 1 or 10 ohm resistor is inserted in series with what I assume to be a (series) string of LEDs. It is place ideally in the middle of the string so it is somewhat buffered from the large JT pulses. If need be and the meter jumps around a bit a cap of say 10-100uF could be placed across the resistor and wait a minute or two till the voltage stays constant. If using a 1ohm resistor each 0.001volt is equal to 1mA so a reading of 0.010volts would be 10mA.

Now if your LEDs say have a forward voltage of say 2.7V and you have 100 of them you do 100 * 2.7 = 270volts, the voltage needed to overcome the forward voltage and light the LEDs, now multiply the 270v * (voltage across resistor). Say the voltage on a 1ohm was 0.010 then 270 * 0.01 = or 2.7 watts. But I think you will need to use a 10 ohm to get a reading because I do not think you are getting 2.7W. Using the 10 ohm you will get 0.001volt reading for each 100uA of current and it can be figured as stated above only divide the reading across the resistor by 10 before multiplying.

Because the JT is a pulse driver (similar to SEC in a way) the measurement is ball park only, but it give a place to start or a reference point. I have not done anything with the JT's but being a blocking oscillator I would also think they change with supply voltage and this measurement method could be used to tune for best performance.

Anyway just a thought.

BTW your question, the research is going well and a real live product is very close.

[Pirate88179]

Dr. Stiffler:

The EB was powering the Fuji circuit via 2 supercaps. (EB to 2 supercaps to the Fuji circuit to the led string)

The thing we have discovered about leds, which probably you already know, is that higher voltage will light them with very little mA's. I will try to run the test you suggest. Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me.

I really like what Lidmotor has been doing with a variation of your SEC. He and Ashweth have suggested I try to run one from the EB. That is a little advanced for me but, with some hlp from them, I can probably do it.

The main thing I have been trying in the videos (in the info section) to point out is that my mA's are not high enough at this time to run the Fuji circuit without the supercaps. They have to fill a bit and then it will run, but the EB can't keep up with the amp draw. So, I now have a 650 Farad supercap on the way to me as we speak. I foresee it being able to charge up all day from the EB and then I can run my lights for a long time at night. I just don't want to mislead anyone or have them not understand. I am supposed to be able to get 1 amp out of this new set-up but so far I have not been able to do so.

I'll have to try to catch up on your research, i am glad to hear it is going well.

Bill

[DrStiffler]

Dr. Stiffler:

The EB was powering the Fuji circuit via 2 supercaps. (EB to 2 supercaps to the Fuji circuit to the led string)

The thing we have discovered about leds, which probably you already know, is that higher voltage will light them with very little mA's. I will try to run the test you suggest. Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me.

I really like what Lidmotor has been doing with a variation of your SEC. He and Ashweth have suggested I try to run one from the EB. That is a little advanced for me but, with some hlp from them, I can probably do it.

The main thing I have been trying in the videos (in the info section) to point out is that my mA's are not high enough at this time to run the Fuji circuit without the supercaps. They have to fill a bit and then it will run, but the EB can't keep up with the amp draw. So, I now have a 650 Farad supercap on the way to me as we speak. I foresee it being able to charge up all day from the EB and then I can run my lights for a long time at night. I just don't want to mislead anyone or have them not understand. I am supposed to be able to get 1 amp out of this new set-up but so far I have not been able to do so.

I'll have to try to catch up on your research, i am glad to hear it is going well.

Bill

@Bill

Okay I understand and I did not mean to imply you were stating anything but truth on the circuits. What I do know very well is the supercaps and what you can do with them. Yes you can charge them to potential xJ, but if you have not you should look at a discharge curve of a cap. If you do not current limit, at first you waste a bunch of energy from over drive, the if you use a current limit (constant current) circuit to try and throttle the discharge you still waste energy in the control circuits. I so wish someone could invent a zero loss control circuit, but they seem not to exist.

With my Spatial Light this was the primary design problem and when resolved allows for a 3W solar cell to charge a bank of capacitors from an Exciter which are discharged in a new way for light at night.

Anyway if you find s basic platform value to work from you will then be able to see if a change is better or worse.

[Pirate88179]

Doc:

I didn't take it that you were implying anything, so don't worry about it. As I said, I am information deficient in this electronics arena and I am still working on that. I have a lot of respect for you, and your work. I am glad that you are taking the time to tell me stuff to do to help me. I will do as you asked and I do see the value in those tests. I need a base line so I can tell if any changes are for the better, or the worse.

I just wish I had ordered one of your SEC boards when they were available. I do think the EB could power one of these. But, you have shared a lot of info out there and it is there for me to use, and I will, or at least try, ha ha.

Thanks again for all of the things that you do, and for your help.

Bill

[DrStiffler]

Doc:

I didn't take it that you were implying anything, so don't worry about it. As I said, I am information deficient in this electronics arena and I am still working on that. I have a lot of respect for you, and your work. I am glad that you are taking the time to tell me stuff to do to help me. I will do as you asked and I do see the value in those tests. I need a base line so I can tell if any changes are for the better, or the worse.

I just wish I had ordered one of your SEC boards when they were available. I do think the EB could power one of these. But, you have shared a lot of info out there and it is there for me to use, and I will, or at least try, ha ha.

Thanks again for all of the things that you do, and for your help.

Bill

@Bill

Anytime and I mean anytime I seem to be coming across wrong let me know and we can do it PM, but a long time ago tried to offer some help on the EB's and was shut down on ou.com by some very ignorant people. Anyway I think I can help you, but as in my thread I want control and credit for my work as you should. I will (if you allow) offer some advice and take it with a grain of salt, but please tell me when I overstep my interaction.