Earth Battery SG

[jeanna]

Thanks everybody,

I fixed the schematic on my previous post. In my hurry to post before leaving for the weekend, I forgot to add the 1F, 5.5v computer memory cap to the schematic.
This is parallel to the battery leads.

In the early EB days Bill had put one of these on his leads and was able to light a red led straight from the 2 probes in the ground. He has some powerful ground, I think.

I was not able to do that, and later I made this circuit and threw everything at it. It has the memory cap and the germanium transistor because my backyard gets less than 0.8 and microamps. To give me some variability, I made it with 6, 470 Ohm resistors in a series string at the base of the transistor.
I gave up and this has been in "the shoebox" ever since.

My thoughts about the soil are that since magnesium is the core molecule of the chlorophyll molecule (similar to iron being the core of hemoglobin) a little extra magnesium won't hurt a green plant. Copper is widely found in soils, so that shouldn't be a problem for the plant either.
Another thought, hope really, is that since magnesium is so abundant in green things there might be an existing microorganism that is compatible.
Who knows, maybe I am providing a heretofore limiting nutrient, and the plant will gobble it up at the expense of my light!

Anyway,

It is still lit at the 72 hour mark. (I don't know of a AA that can keep up with that.)

I will be testing the limits with other circuits this week and beyond.

Remember, please change your files if you downloaded the circuit.

jeanna

[jeanna]

another circuit running from the planter

OK
The shoebox provided me with another circuit to try on the cu mg planter battery.

In this picture you see 2 leds.
These are from 2 separately wound secondaries (pickups) on the same toroid. It is an early circuit. I ran out of room on the toroid and needed to refine my design, hence the shoebox.

So, the cu wire - mg ribbon in the soil around the philodendron plant are producing close to 1.5v and enough mA to start up the pulse generator known as the joule thief with secondary. And this one can light 2 leds.

Here is a pic and a circuit.
[note: there is NO memory cap in this one!]

jeanna

@lidmotor
I can't watch this for some adobe flash player reason so I must refer the address to you.
lecture on 3 special plants
This talk is short and gets to the point.
I think the philodendron is good at eating pollutants at the roots.
I know the spider plant gobbles formaldehyde, but I have a more distant memory that the philodendron was researched for toxin abatement at the paint dept in General Motors. Please watch this to understand my choice of plants, even though I cannot remember it exactly.

[Lidmotor]

Plants & metals

OK
The shoebox provided me with another circuit to try on the cu mg planter battery.

In this picture you see 2 leds.
These are from 2 separately wound secondaries (pickups) on the same toroid. It is an early circuit. I ran out of room on the toroid and needed to refine my design, hence the shoebox.

So, the cu wire - mg ribbon in the soil around the philodendron plant are producing close to 1.5v and enough mA to start up the pulse generator known as the joule thief with secondary. And this one can light 2 leds.

Here is a pic and a circuit.
[note: there is NO memory cap in this one!]

jeanna

@lidmotor
I can't watch this for some adobe flash player reason so I must refer the address to you.
lecture on 3 special plants
This talk is short and gets to the point.
I think the philodendron is good at eating pollutants at the roots.
I know the spider plant gobbles formaldehyde, but I have a more distant memory that the philodendron was researched for toxin abatement at the paint dept in General Motors. Please watch this to understand my choice of plants, even though I cannot remember it exactly.

Thanks for the info Jeanna. I can't watch that either for some reason. I will try getting it on another computer. I ordered some mg ribbon off Ebay so I can make one of your planter batteries. I can't wait to try this out. I think that it will run Slayer's SEC exciter.

Lidmotor

[jeanna]

I ordered some mg ribbon off Ebay so I can make one of your planter batteries. I can't wait to try this out. I think that it will run Slayer's SEC exciter.

Lidmotor

Oh that is terrific.

I am sure it will, and this is great to have you use a circuit I have not made. (I have been working on the EB and recharging thing lately)
I will also be using this to see if it will start up the battery recharger circuit, now that I am seeing some results from recharging using spikes.
Won't it be great to be able to recharge batteries and not need to calculate the time the run battery was being used??
More on that later.

Thanks for doing this!

@Bodkins,
Did you see that
/wires.co.uk
has the cotton covered bare copper needed to make a stubblefield generator?
I am waiting for some to arrive now.
A newish guy called lasersaber has made a good replica and has posted his results on youtube.
Anyway, for you it is a local company, and I thought you might like to get some to try.
lasersaber's first (of 4) vid on stubblefield generator!

Way fun!!

jeanna

p.s. lasersaber is also the one who told us of mg ribbon.

edit
I see you have made a comment to lasersaber's last video.
I will leave my text unchanged for others who want to see lasersaber's vids.

[jeanna]

new video

Here is my newest video

Plant Battery 1

thanks to lasersaber and Shannon for making this latest success possible!

jeanna

[dragon]

stubblefield like battery...

Nice work Jenna ! I had played around with the earth batteries some time back and out of all of them I made the stubblefield "like" coil was about the best I had ever seen.

The one in the picture is driving a joule thief circuit. I call it a stubblefield like battery because I wound the iron wire on the tube first then covered it with a fiberglass ( very porous ) cloth. It actually looked like fine screen. Then the bare copper coil over the cloth.

It would produce about 100ma at .7 volts out of the water. Oddly enough it didn't do as well in the water.

Unfortunately, the effect didn't last very long and I'm not sure why. It ran for about 3 days and quit. The only way you can get it to work now is to charge it for about an hour then it will go again....

It's quite possible the metal has oxidized during use and recharging cleans it temporarily. There might be other materials that would have a better longivity and offer a similar effect.

Fun project none the less...
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[Bodkins]

nice work jenna
just pasting by to drop this off
YouTube - Magnet Motor Switch Secondary Coil Test

[Lidmotor]

Stubblefield battery/pulse motor

nice work jenna
just pasting by to drop this off
YouTube - Magnet Motor Switch Secondary Coil Test

Thanks Bodkins!!! I gotta make one of those. I have never heard of a "battery" that was also the electromagnet of a pulse motor. I really don't care how long that it would run----it is just very very cool. I'm sure that 'Maggie' would like it also.

Lidmotor

[Lidmotor]

"Plant Battery" & Stubblefield battery

Oh that is terrific.

I am sure it will, and this is great to have you use a circuit I have not made. (I have been working on the EB and recharging thing lately)
I will also be using this to see if it will start up the battery recharger circuit, now that I am seeing some results from recharging using spikes.
Won't it be great to be able to recharge batteries and not need to calculate the time the run battery was being used??
More on that later.

Thanks for doing this!

@Bodkins,
Did you see that
/wires.co.uk
has the cotton covered bare copper needed to make a stubblefield generator?
I am waiting for some to arrive now.
A newish guy called lasersaber has made a good replica and has posted his results on youtube.
Anyway, for you it is a local company, and I thought you might like to get some to try.
lasersaber's first (of 4) vid on stubblefield generator!

Way fun!!

jeanna

p.s. lasersaber is also the one who told us of mg ribbon.

edit
I see you have made a comment to lasersaber's last video.
I will leave my text unchanged for others who want to see lasersaber's vids.

I have been following lasersaber's work as well as yours and you said it all----this is "WAY FUN!!!!!"

Lidmotor

[Iotayodi]

@Jenna: Who is your source for the Cotton wire?

[jeanna]

Here is the stubblefield patent.
US # 600457
pat2pdf is my favorite place.
If allowed, I will post the pdf here now.

See, I think the stubblefield generator is a self powered joule thief. I have not been able to prove that but I am still trying!

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The more I research Mg the more excited I get about this latest experiment.

Maybe magnesium is a missing link.
Mg is in our bones as mammals and works hand in hand with calcium to run the nerves and calm them.
It is the central molecule of the chloroplast.
And, somehow it is the "universal" anode. It is used in the ground to keep the zinc in place as the rust preventer.

We are all connected with this mineral.
When you compost the grass and leaves the mg goes back into the cycle. Adding dolomite restores it. Montmorillonite clay is full of it.
Some humans have cravings for clay.

and on and on... more as the results come in.


jeanna

[jeanna]

@Jeanna: Who is your source for the Cotton wire?

bare copper wire cotton covered in UK

jeanna

[Iotayodi]

I am surprised you ordered it from the UK.

[jeanna]

I am surprised you ordered it from the UK.

Well,
I already made 13 of these and I really have enough to get a start using it with a reed switch, but when I saw lasersaber's BEAUTIFUL replication, I decided I had to buy some.

I also wrote to para-wire to see if they would put up some spools and I explained that they would sell them if they did, but I have not heard back and don't really expect to.

This company seems to be the only one that has bare copper wire that is cotton covered in stock.
They also have silk covered bare copper wire. If this works, I will get some with silk, because the ones I made with silk are better IMO, but that may be much later. For now, I hope you and others who want to make the NS generator, will buy from them.

The royal mail was 7.5E and 2 spools I don't remember exactly but it was less than $60 with all the conversions and charges etc.

I have been building these NS generators since Jan 2008, and I am delighted with the idea that I can make one and not need to sew or fold and hold and wind... this will make it easy to make a good one, finally!

jeanna

[Lidmotor]

Jeanna's Plant Battery----my replication

@Jeanna----I couldn't wait for my magnesium ribbon to come in the mail so I tried your "Plant Battery" using the metal in a "magnisium fire starter" that Walmart sells. It worked GREAT!!!
Here is the video of my success. Thanks alot for sharing this idea with us. I will build a special JT for it and see how long it runs.

YouTube - Plant Battery Running a SEC.ASF

Lidmotor