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  • After seeing the similarities between earth and water batteries I believe the effect also involves an electrolysis effect as Jeanne is finding out with the magnesium ribbon being consumed. Here is a website for a good source of magnesium and other metals one might use for these experiments. Try using something more substantial for longer life IE thicker material.

    RotoMetals Magnesium Anodes- Pencil, Rod and Weld. For use in Fresh water Applications

    in my water battery test videos mentioned above, even tho there is no base or acid in the water cells the zinc is now almost gone off the staples through an electrolysis effect. Another thing I am observing is cells 7-10 in the ice trays consume 3 times the water than the other cells. I will be making video Part 3 to show all this. I believe in the ground the same thing is taking place and this is why people claim a better effect near plants as that would be where the PH of the soil would be different and act upon the metal with the electrolysis effect. PH 7 as we know is neutral, my cell started at PH7 (pure water) and now it has risen to PH8 as the zinc is almost all striped from the staples and is now in the water solution, which increases its output as it speeds up the electrolysis effect of the metals creating electricity. Your soil could be acidic or more to the base in its PH. Have any of you done a PH test on the soil you are doing your experiments in? Jeanne might find a PH of around 8 I am thinking which would speed up the electrolysis effect and break down the magnesium ribbon. I would like to find some "MAG" wheels and bury a few of them as the reason the custom wheels on cars were originally called MAGS was because they were made from magnesium alloy. Many wheels now are aluminum and not magnesium but you can still find the magnesium type. I think a Mag wheel may last for years in the ground before it completely broke down and could be wrapped with a copper coil around the wheel, that might be interesting, and also expensive given the price of copper wire.

    Anyway just thinking out loud here and typing my thoughts.

    Good Day!!
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    • Let me also say here I do not believe the effect is "ALL" electrolysis. Remember that in a battery you can do a PH test and a specific gravity test of the liquid and the specific gravity will tell you its charge. The ground is a great big battery so all these factors are going to come into play just like a lead acid battery we commonly use in our cars, only difference is the earth is inexhaustible so that we can tap its energy using metals. But those metals are going to still be subject to electrolysis even as in a regular battery. And as it does it draws into itself the electrons in the soil all around it. Pump the anode and cathode with frequency to excite the "field" and draw in more. I think this was what Stubblefield was doing, he was creating the anode cathode and the magnetic coil to extract the earth juice. So he circuit in the ground must have been close to what we use above ground, just buried it in a different medium being the earth. Tesla did the same then built the above ground antenna for the other opposite pole or potential and then with a spark gap and caps collected the energy between the earth and the air. If you have an old TV antenna on your roof hook the leads to one side of a cap and then hook another lead to a water main that goes into the ground, I observed 1.5 volts at around 250ma.


      Good Day!!
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      • I would also like to encourage the use of experimentation on several different metals in these batteries. I have heard that zinc and stainless steel work together good, but what about gold and silver? Gold is said to have the best electrical conductivity properties followed by silver. Now Gold is interesting as it does not tarnish so it should follow that it would also resist being diminished by electrolysis action. To me this might make a good earth anode. How about gold leafing a magnesium rod that was first coated with enamel or lacquer finish, this would act then like a capacitor and the gold would resist corrosion to protect the magnesium. I think all the metals and combinations of same should be explored. Hard drive disks I was told are a hard aluminum coated with platinum, that might make an interesting earth cell. Maybe take a stack of these hard drive disks and separate them by thin sheet of mylar and bury in the ground. Then make a similar above ground unit separated by air and connect the two through a spark gap and super cap. Tesla talked about such devices in his cosmic ray collector which had matching plates in the ground as above of highly polished or coated metal. He was able to run motors off this same energy and it worked day and night unlike solar voltaic cells which depend on physical light.

        Good Day!!
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        Last edited by 1NRG24Seven; 05-14-2010, 07:26 PM. Reason: typo

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        • Possible new drawing found of NS coil.
          http://zolfco.webhostingwholesale.com/images/ns.bmp

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          • Here's the overunity link for the above, better resolution:
            http://www.overunity.com/index.php?a...ch=44765;image

            Looks like 2 Bedini's!

            Looking at the graphic in detail (high Mag) I have a feeling that this is a computer generated picture. Look at how both wheels have the exact same shading, and the background resolution appears to me to be different from the foreground.
            Last edited by john_g; 05-18-2010, 03:45 PM. Reason: Think drawing is a fake.

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            • Yup likely a fake

              Originally posted by john_g View Post
              Here's the overunity link for the above, better resolution:
              http://www.overunity.com/index.php?a...ch=44765;image

              Looks like 2 Bedini's!

              Looking at the graphic in detail (high Mag) I have a feeling that this is a computer generated picture. Look at how both wheels have the exact same shading, and the background resolution appears to me to be different from the foreground.
              Hi john g

              I was also going to post that at ou, but then, I am not really sure.
              The middle of each wheel has a series of similar double lines, which is what caught my eye, but there are some splotches that look kind of random too.
              I will look again.
              I appreciate your thoughts.

              It is a good looking circuit, though.

              jeanna

              OK
              after looking closely, I am pretty sure it IS a fake.
              It is turned upside down and then reversed.
              A section of central bifilar wires has been added at the top, and it is from the exact spot where they left off in the pic on the patent.

              Now,
              NS was a caligrapher, and the non computer techniques for adding and subtracting parts was certainly available to him, but they would have been in the way of tracing over an existing drawing.
              Then why would he trace over the tiny little line in the central screw that points to number 2 of the patent? He would not have done that.

              So, I am sorry to conclude that this was a fake. a good one, too.
              Last edited by jeanna; 05-18-2010, 08:53 PM. Reason: I do think it is a fake

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              • a way to see the fake

                I just looked hard at these 2 drawings and I am afraid to say I think it IS a fake.

                The new drawing is reversed and upside down from the patent.
                Several lines of bifilar have been added which adds up to be exactly right to cover the drawing from the patent.

                The little line pointing to number 2 of the patent is still there on both versions of this coil in the new pic.

                Have a look.

                jeanna
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                • Fake or not, with the NS patent, the lightsaber videos, and that graphic it looks like a good direction to a replicate-able FE device.

                  $0.02

                  PJ
                  Last edited by sigzidfit; 05-18-2010, 09:47 PM. Reason: grammer
                  A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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                  • lasersaber's how to make a stubblefield coil videos

                    Lasersaber's newest videos = 3 how to make a NS generator!

                    This is so excellent.

                    jeanna

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                    • Thats a nice work what he does.
                      Just seems he switched with the inner Coil later to Alloy wire.
                      YouTube - Working Nathan Stubblefield Coil!
                      Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                      • FYI - I've had very good results with aluminum and stainless steel.
                        A Phenomenon is anything which can be apprehended by the senses.

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                        • about the JT

                          i wonder how much mAmps does the earth battery draw, anyone knows?

                          i came up with an idea for a possible very efficient JT to "amplify" the energy of our body, but without the cooper or the wire, is not nothing really new...

                          i found that by using aluminium our body can generate up to 500mV (0.5V), and if i pulse the contact my amp draw can reach 15uA (0.015 mA),

                          i see you guys making so marvelous and wonderfull things, and i ask, it is possible to pump such a small amount of energy in to a led?

                          it would be something very cool to play, i think its possible but the circuit will need to be very efficient and sized to this specific values,

                          love & light
                          Last edited by juju; 05-21-2010, 05:08 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by juju View Post
                            i wonder how much mAmps does the earth battery draw, anyone knows?

                            i came up with an idea for a possible very efficient JT to "amplify" the energy of our body, but without the cooper or the wire, is not nothing really new...

                            i found that by using aluminium our body can generate up to 500mV (0.5V), and if i pulse the contact my amp draw can reach 15uA (0.015 mA),

                            i see you guys making so marvelous and wonderfull things, and i ask, it is possible to pump such a small amount of energy in to a led?

                            it would be something very cool to play, i think its possible but the circuit will need to be very efficient and sized to this specific values,

                            love & light
                            Which one do you refer to? The Stubblefield replication or the standard Earth Battery? Itīs usually not really much, depending on what you wanna do there.

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                            • hi xeno

                              i was mentioning the earth battery, how much amps/volts will you get with one using copper/magnesium (i dont have it) ?

                              hugs
                              Last edited by juju; 05-21-2010, 07:32 PM.

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                              • my soul is dumbfounded

                                i have tryed other materials after i posted,

                                you will not gonna believe this, im kicking 1.5V 0.05mA out of my boddy, i dont know what material it is, but im going to find out, seems aluminium, but i can fold it.

                                is not great?

                                i will experiment this material on an earth battery, and try it with copper, iron, since i do not have magnesium, to see if it is better or worst, will post my results soon...

                                i find out that soft iron works better that alluminium to, i get 0.7V with it!

                                will the fugi circuit do the work with just 50 uA of current? and light up a led?

                                EDIT: anyone tryed to hold the copper and magnesium one on each hand and compare results with the earth battery?

                                Last edited by juju; 05-21-2010, 07:28 PM.

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