Earth Battery SG

[Bruce_TPU]

The idea is to find a way, and hopefully Aaron's circuit will work, to strengthen the primary thus strengthening the secondary. More current on the secondary, if some is fed back into the primary coil, which is the battery, then this means that the secondary would be even stronger.

If we could get it to work, it would be a type of amplification. Some say it is not possible. I say it is worth trying. And right now, only Lasersaber and Lidmotor have working coils. But I think that will change shortly.

If a way of self feed back, coupled with the teluric currents, between two seperate buried coils, could be amplified, that would be the secret. I believe that NS found a way to "prime" or "feedback" some of the power on the secondary onto the primary.

Thank you Aaron for the circuit. I hope that one of the guys with working NS coils will attempt it and report back.

Cheers,

Bruce

[mk1]

@all

I made some research on the NS coil and got over the misconception , it is not a wireless phone system . the best description would be a ground radio .

Its signal could be received by another coil out of the ground to about a mile , be needed the coil to be in the ground for longer distances , the potential here is you can have many receivers on the same signal ...

I also found it easier to find pertinent information by searching ground radio in google.

Mark

[Iotayodi]

he reveals that the inner of one wire and the outer of the other

Wow! Looking at the flow that would be right for the electromagnet. Its so subtle no wonder its been overlooked. We need to change the number 10 terminals to 10i and 10c or something similar. If this has been stated before I missed it. Anyone building this needs to be reminded of it.

[Bruce_TPU]

This feedback of course takes away from what output can be
used to power a light, etc...

So you have X output that is recoverable. X minus what it takes to light
some led's for example leaves the amount that you can feedback to the
front to reduce the input draw by that amount.

If anyone has an SG setup with a recovery winding like a trifilar coil.
Do this and watch the same mechanical work at the wheel with 1/2
the normal draw.

Is anyone up to trying that and seeing it work?

This is how I had my output feeding back to the front WITHOUT THE
FRONT SIDE CAP SEEING THE BACKSIDE CAP. If I had a battery on the
front, it would not be powering and charging at the same time. See
how it works?

YouTube - energeticforum's Channel

Good evening ALL,

Groundloop spent a great deal of time, making the following diagrams, to make it much easier for experimenters to experiment with the feedback/recovery circuit.

THANK YOU Groundloop for your hard work!

Cheers,

Bruce

[theremart]

RE: 3rd coil..

Indeed it does spin the wheel with less draw, but pulling from that coil from my experience really pulls down the charge to the second battery. I imagine there are optimized configurations one can do...

This feedback of course takes away from what output can be
used to power a light, etc...

So you have X output that is recoverable. X minus what it takes to light
some led's for example leaves the amount that you can feedback to the
front to reduce the input draw by that amount.

If anyone has an SG setup with a recovery winding like a trifilar coil.
Do this and watch the same mechanical work at the wheel with 1/2
the normal draw.

Is anyone up to trying that and seeing it work?

This is how I had my output feeding back to the front WITHOUT THE
FRONT SIDE CAP SEEING THE BACKSIDE CAP. If I had a battery on the
front, it would not be powering and charging at the same time. See
how it works?

YouTube - energeticforum's Channel

[Aaron]

recovery split however you want

Indeed it does spin the wheel with less draw, but pulling from that coil from my experience really pulls down the charge to the second battery. I imagine there are optimized configurations one can do...

Mart, yes it takes away from what would be going to a secondary battery.
Hence...

.This feedback of course takes away from what output can be
used to power a light, etc..

So you have X output that is recoverable. X minus what it takes to light
some led's for example leaves the amount that you can feedback to the
front to reduce the input draw by that amount.

[sigzidfit]

I just saw this over at OU.com forum and thought ya'll might be interested:

Cotton covered wire source in U.S.

"14 GA 500 feet or more $ 133.50 per 500 feet ($26.70 per 100 Feet)"

Also here's something someone may want to throw into the mix so to speak:
Marcus Reid -- Crystal battery
YouTube - Free Energy - John Hutchison's Crystal Battery
YouTube - How to make crystal batteries free energy 1 of 2
YouTube - crystal batteries free energy 2 of 2
sodium silicate - Google Product Search
Category:Ferroelectric materials - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Peace
PJ

[kazm]

I just saw this over at OU.com forum and thought ya'll might be interested:

Cotton covered wire source in U.S.

"14 GA 500 feet or more $ 133.50 per 500 feet ($26.70 per 100 Feet)"

Also here's something someone may want to throw into the mix so to speak:
Marcus Reid -- Crystal battery
YouTube - Free Energy - John Hutchison's Crystal Battery
YouTube - How to make crystal batteries free energy 1 of 2
YouTube - crystal batteries free energy 2 of 2
sodium silicate - Google Product Search
Category:Ferroelectric materials - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Peace
PJ

Came across this source of large ferrite rod antennas:
(903) 383-7047 Monster FERRITE RODS. Plastic coated ferrite rods. OEM.

[juju]

thank you

thank's very much for the /ignore

i see most of you are not here to support "unknown" people...

just wanted to share my JT LED Plant Battery setup...

my plant is very very small and fits in my hand.. my plates are very small to compared with what you all have showed... and i got super bright light!



hugs

[jeanna]

thank's very much for the /ignore

Hi juju,
what is that?

just wanted to share my JT LED Plant Battery setup...

Yeay! good great job!

my plant is very very small and fits in my hand.. my plates are very small to compared with what you all have showed... and i got super bright light!

I am working on the lower limits of this and I really would like to know the details.
What are the electrodes?
I assume Cu, Mg
?
How long are they?

And, ultimately how long does it run?
etc?

thank you.

jeanna

hugs

[sigzidfit]

@juju

You remind me of me!

No, but seriously, you do, and that's usually what it takes. If a post reminds someone of themselves you might get a positive response.

If you reveal something important, different or new; expect to be ignored, attacked or belittled. Reveal half of it, and they'll kiss your ass for the rest then say it was theirs.

There are some good people around, but they have to keep a low profile because usually, if someone sees it, they will get beat up for it. That's the way of the world and internet forums in particular. So don't think it's any different here in this little bucket of crabs.

This is not an attack on this board. I'm here in this too so there. It's how I see it and I hate to see members become discouraged, or worse, cynical like myself.

Also realize, some here are up to their eyeballs in challenges with few resources and very little support and have to strictly filter what they pay attention to, or respond to, so it may not be an intentional snub.

These days I follow very few threads of discussion and reply to even fewer. I admit it and apologize. I never noticed until you posted a nice picture of your work and sounded like you had been offended.

Don't let it get you down Bro. You ain't the only one. I thought jeanna got rudely ignored when she first arrived here with some good info.

Research, Experiment, Observe, Report. Read some, write some. Stay strong, keep working. Share what you can and what you think is important. It may actually do some good and help someone. Do your own thing and if it seems like no one gets it, then that is not necessarily a negative reflection of you.

Fear not. Information revealed in this thread and others has already forced peoples hands and changed the world.

"If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love never fails."

1 Corinthians 13:3-8

Peace
PJ

[Aaron]

feedback

and cleaning up Aaron's circuit drawing, to make it much easier for experimenters to experiment with the feedback/recovery circuit.

Bruce,

I deleted all my other posts related to the recovery - nobody seems
interested enough here to discuss it with me even though I asked
multiple questions.

For the record, this diagram of Groundloop's is completely different than
what I showed.

Why is that? It was not even close? That seems very odd to me! What is
the purpose of taking a battery and cap and putting them together as
one, changing diode's relationship to a coil defeating the entire purpose of what I posted and saying it is a cleaned up version of my circuit!

Please explain that to me how someone so talented could make so many mistakes. I'm waiting!

Please remove my name immediately from that diagram as I would
never post such a thing. Looks like sabotage/misdirection/misinformation attempt to me.

@EVERYONE ELSE - DO NOT TRUST THAT CIRCUIT!

[Bruce_TPU]

Bruce,

I deleted all my other posts related to the recovery - nobody seems
interested enough here to discuss it with me even though I asked
multiple questions.

For the record, this diagram of Groundloop's is completely different than
what I showed.

Why is that? It was not even close? That seems very odd to me! What is
the purpose of taking a battery and cap and putting them together as
one, changing diode's relationship to a coil defeating the entire purpose of what I posted and saying it is a cleaned up version of my circuit!

Please explain that to me how someone so talented could make so many mistakes. I'm waiting!

Please remove my name immediately from that diagram as I would
never post such a thing. Looks like sabotage/misdirection/misinformation attempt to me.

@EVERYONE ELSE - DO NOT TRUST THAT CIRCUIT!

WOA! Easy Aaron.

I think a number of things. First off, removing your posts about the recovery circuit is not very helpful at all.

Second, I do not think that people responded right away to your questions, because they do not know the answers, or were afraid of stating the wrong thing. Human nature.

Third, as far as Groundloop is concerned, he is one of the most reputable builders I know, as well as spending a great deal of time designing electronic circuits for those of us without that expertise. Including myself in that category.

And lastly, he did not understand in your initial posting, nor myself, that you had added a second battery to my original idea. My original idea was to take the EARTH BATTERY and figure out a way to feed the secondary back into the primary, somehow, to make a stronger effect on the secondary at the next pass, and to have this continue.

There are only two people (right now) with working Nathan Stubblefield coils, one is Lasersaber, and the other is Lidmotor. Now, I found your posts interesting and well informed. I am involved in building three projects and have no way to wrap a coil right now to test it out. People will, if you give it some time, I think.

Groundloop would never sabotage anything on purpose. And that is the truth. He (and I) thought your battery symbol represented the NS coil primary, which is indeed a galvanic battery. In the beginning. Now we understand that you added a second battery.

I hope that helps.

Cheers,

Bruce

[juju]

: )

Hi juju,
what is that?

lets forget that ok? i was not at my top level of counscieness!

Yeay! good great job!

thank you very much jeanna!

I am working on the lower limits of this and I really would like to know the details.
What are the electrodes?
I assume Cu, Mg
?
How long are they?

And, ultimately how long does it run?
etc?

i dont know the material of the electrodes my friend, but maybe you can help me to find out?

i get them from a "water battery", that cames with a lifeguard rescue jacket from an airplane, please dont ask me how i get that, its a funny story

this water battery had 2 plates like the one you see in the left, and the one in the right was between those 2, when you let water get in the battery, the chemical reaction will produce energy to a small light!

the plates seem demaged because some time ago i forgot 2 plates in contact with each other and they start to corrode very fast, so one like you seen on the left, was completely destroyed, and the middle plate was the same size, but now is only half of hit. Since im using them on the plant battery they dont seem to deteriorate...

the left plate (negative) is 6 cm/1cm (half buried) , the right plate is 3cm/1cm (positive) and they are very thick! my plant have 5cm/6cm of "earth".

i think this one its a self runner/perpetual motion, because only depends on the plates... and maybe not even that, because what waste the "magnesium" (or this kind of materials) may be the water your plant need to survive, but my little star cactus, dont need any water, the soil is completely dry, and my cactus is very healthy, it reminds me the topic of the guy that dont eat or neither drink water.

the plates will last for a very long time without having water to the plant!

i will let my plant run "forever", and in the day it stops i promisse i will tell you ok?

one last thing, i dont use the secondary of my JT to the led like you.. i put it across the colector+emiter, it shines more... my cap value is 3300uF, that is important to, the circuit dont like very much of super caps i tryed 1Farad but it shine less. You can play with cap values, i like this one because it blinks very fast, and very bright!

jeanna look at my shining star, is not a cute little thing?

PJ

your post have bring tears of joy to my eyes...

it really did, thank you very much for your words PJ, i dont know what to say...

you are completely right! thank you brother, you are great!

[Groundloop]

@Aaron,

Bruce asked me via email if I could draw a Nathan Stubblefield Coil.
He also asked me if I could redraw your circuit. I then asked Bruce
several times about your circuit because I did not understand it.

It was not clear to me if there was a battery or if the battery was
the coil itself. I have never done any sabotage/misdirection/misinformation
on this forum and never will. I did a mistake and for that I'm sorry.

I would have been much better if you could have explained my mistakes
so that I could have corrected my errors instead of labeling me the way you
did. I have decided to leave this forum because of that.

I was naive to believe that this was a friendly forum, I was wrong.

Bye,
Groundloop.