Earth Battery SG

[Bodkins]

Brillant Kingman Cant wait for the next chapter

[spodie]

Hello everyone new to this forum but i saw this thread and thought this might help Earth Battery - Alternative Energy Show and Tell also if you look around this site you will see a Bedini School Girl that was measured at the conference that had witnessed greater out than in thanks to the work of Tom Thayer. Cheers Spodie Odie

[theremart]

20V 200 millamps from ground battery.

In the book FEG, there is reference to powering a battery charger with a ground battery that can produce this amount of voltage.

Has anyone built this, and can they share where and how to do this?

Thanks!

[Kingman]

20V 200 millamps

Hi ThereMart, All I can do is answere for myself in regards to developing 20V 200 millamps from a ground battery. I'm not aware of a system that will do this voltage and amps at this time. Maybe someone else could respond to your request. Although I think if someone had developed such a system it might be being supressed or they are very secreative about it and not divulging their discovery. I however feel it is very possible to achive such results and more. It may require the necessity of daisy chaining several active earth batteries together to achive voltages in those ranges.

BTW. I am very impressed with the amount of work and effort you have put into the design of your SSG's and replicating JB's designs. It was with your help, via your YouTube videos, that helped me solve some problems that I was having getting some of my systems up and running. So I want to say, THANK YOU for helping me! Also I read about your awefull experience at your home with the fire and hope and pray that your life is getting back to normal after that bad event. Keep up the great work for we are looking toward you for a major break-through in your experimentation and seeking the truthes. You will one day make a major discovery that will deliver solutions to reduce or eliminate the costs of heating our homes and lighting our lights!

Kingman

Do the thing and you will get the energy to do the thing!

[theremart]

Blush

Thanks Kingman you make me lol

I do like to share both my good and bad days. I just hope others can learn from where I fall flat on my face and also where things go right. I have been blessed with great neighbors who have been of great help from putting out the fire to bringing me a meal the day of the fire, so very glad to have everything back online.

I have tried some copper pipes / zinc plates in series outside for a battery, but I was unable to get much of voltage out of them. I have seen some of the designs of Stubblefield with alternating plates but I am waiting for someone else to get a working model.

[Shamus]

I believe that the circuit you refer to shows a bunch of earth cells in series, and I think the PPA text even mentions a number--now I can't remember offhand if it was 10 or 20. You might have better luck using an aerial wire. I'm tempted to try this myself but I live near a cell tower and don't want to be accused of 'stealing' electricity.

[Joit]

In the book FEG, there is reference to powering a battery charger with a ground battery that can produce this amount of voltage.

Has anyone built this, and can they share where and how to do this?

Thanks!

I found a Vid for a 12V/raised to 14V Batterie in Series.
YouTube - 12V Earth battery

Maybe it push the Output with a better mix of Metalls or Materials
from here -> Earth battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Metals and Soils
Coke looks interesting, or a simple Graphit Pencil

[Joit]

And BTW,

Who can say, where in heck is The Magnetical North and Southpole from our Worldbowl.
Since the Compass points with the N to the upper Side, then the real Magnetic Northpole must be near Australia.

[Kingman]

Tools for Testing of Design

Hi Bodkin and All, Another busy week has passed working for the MAN and now I'm back to do some research and testing but first I told you that I would share some photos of the Make and Break" and what I have to this point that is working but we need to make it even better! Of course I'm in a bit of a quandry in that what I'm sharing with you all, I hope does not bring the MIB's but I'll take that chance. That is what is so cool about open source in that the world gets to see your ideas and it can not be sequestered away and hidden for 100 years of which must have happened to all of NS self-sustaing induction coils that some politician pulled from the ground after NS's death and obviously destroyed. Well, we can't let those secrets get out! (sarcastically)
Now I think you have gathered by now that I'm a firm believer that Nathan was using the magnetic field that was being developed around the end of his Galvanic activated coil to perform the action of his make and break. I also logically believe that he was using the secondary coil winding to capture the colapse of his primary coil while the "Make and Break" is cycling. I also think that he had tuned this cycling or hertz to the ground wave. but first things first. I'm attaching photos of what I have made and will explain them to you so others can hopefully replicate my design, if they choose to. It is my hope that others can build upon this design and take it to the next level of operation and that is where more than one mind can make a difference and make it better. My first photo is of my testing system. It replicates an induction coil or an galvanic active coil going through its normal process of being energized. I'm using minimal input power to replicate that, that would be generated by a normal NS coil. I'm designing around this minimal voltage and magnetic field that would be present at the end of an NS coil or earth battery, if you want to call it that. Actually, I think that Nathan did not want his coils called an Earth Battery because in his mind it was much more then that!
See Photos.

More to come,
Kingman

[Kingman]

A message to Aaron

Hi Aaron, I have a small request that I hope you can help us with. The current name of this thread is, " Earth Battery SG". I also understand that you are the originator of this Thread. Would it be possible to modifie the name of this thread to have Nathan Stubblefield recognized? Like renaming this Thread to " Earth Battery SG/NS "
I would think that those that are looking for information on the Earth Battery would associate Nathan Stubblefield with this work and rightly so. I do not know if you can do this but it would be nice. I do not want to start another thread when we already have one on Energetic Forum related to the Earth Battery and also when we have around 100 hits a day of folks looking to this thread for ideas on free energy.

Thank You.
Stephen

[Vortex]

OUR ENERGY FUTURE

Hi Kingman
Been thinking about the process to get the cell up and running and it look like Cook patent to me,NS said you can put two cell in in the ground and pull more power, Cook patent?
I have talked to Dr Aspden and he said once the device is running it will self oscillate which is what NS was doing please read Dr Aspden work think of the three windings as the three cylindrical electrodes.
Let me now what you think?
Take Care

more info about Cook's device:
Electro-Magnetic Battery
LECTURE FOR BERLIN MEETING - HAROLD ASPDEN
Patent 119825. Patented Oct, 10, 1871

[Aaron]

new thread for Nathan Stubblefield

Hi Aaron, I have a small request that I hope you can help us with. The current name of this thread is, " Earth Battery SG". I also understand that you are the originator of this Thread. Would it be possible to modifie the name of this thread to have Nathan Stubblefield recognized? Like renaming this Thread to " Earth Battery SG/NS "
I would think that those that are looking for information on the Earth Battery would associate Nathan Stubblefield with this work and rightly so. I do not know if you can do this but it would be nice. I do not want to start another thread when we already have one on Energetic Forum related to the Earth Battery and also when we have around 100 hits a day of folks looking to this thread for ideas on free energy.

Thank You.
Stephen

Hi Stephen,

I just started this thread specific to Nathan Stubblefield if it is of use to you and anyone else posting in this thread.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...telephone.html

If enough people would like, I can move specific posts from this thread in to that thread if they are more directly related to Stubblefield.

Anyway, I hope that new thread is helpful. Let me know.

[Joit]

Actually, this Batterie works with a Glas Water too.
I get a Pencil sharpender, what is Magnesium, a Pencil with Graphit,
and get out 1,5V, even in a cap.
It only dont work, when both Things are totally dry.
But else, when they are wet, and i put them together, it still give same Volt.

But its the Different, how big the Surface is, what touch it.
Seems more, it are the Metalls with her Load.

[Kingman]

My design of the NS "Make and Break"

Hi All, I hope you took the time to looks at the two pictures that I posted above in this thread. The first is my test system and the second one is my current working design of my "Make and Break" device. As I have mentioned before my current effort is into designing a better switching device that is bullet proof and will always work when there is a magnetic field present at the end of the Stubblefield coil. Also this device must work in a minor magnetic field and also work in an environment of low voltage in the neighborhood of 3/4 to 1.5 volts. It must also be able to work in an environment of temperatures that run the gambit of 100 deg F' to 10 deg. F' below zero. Although when you think about the placement of the coil in the ground it would be my intent to keep the top part of the coil above ground where one could access the working parts of the coil. Although giving some consideration to the issue of adverse weather conditions associated with the Northern hemisphere during the winter months, I could see recessing the coil below ground and protecting the working parts from the adverse elements outside and allowing it to work in what is normally a steady protected temperature of around 52 deg. F of which is our normal year round ground temperature for this area. It would have to be in well drained ground so that where the coil is placed is not allowed to swamp out, so to speak. In other words, well drained ground. Now I do not see that as a problem where Nathan lived for his area is very hilly and having good drainage should have not been to big of a problem for him unless it was one of those Summer storms that was a gully washer and frog drowning rains and then I could see that your maintenance work on your coils might be extensive but not the normal event and normally not an issue in the winter time.

Getting back to the coil "Make and Break" device of my current design consists of the magnet glued to a copper disk or washer with an opposing split copper disk that serves as the circuit breaker. It is a simple solenoid action except we utilize gravity to close our switch once the magnetic field has been abruptly killed with the magnet being repulsed from the opposing magnetic field at the end of the coil. Now it doesn't matter wither it is the north field you are using or the south field. Either fields should have the same strength. It is possible that you could have a better response depending in what hemisphere you live in wither using the north or south field that the coil generates but that would be left to experimentation in your general area where you live. I have as of yet to weigh how much my copper disk (Washers) weigh but I can see that it might be necessary to remove some of the disk material to reduce the weight to enable the device to be more responsive. Now as for the split disk, I have soldered wires from each side of the copper halves and glued those halves to a nylon washer of two washer thickness. I'm still working on eliminating mechanical hang up with the magnet having a tendency to want to rock to far to one side or the other. Now, I'm working with another design that I would like to share with you but will do that in the next post as well as go over materials used to accomplish the same action.

Kingman
Do the thing and you will get the energy to do the thing.

[Kingman]

More of my Designs of the "Make and Break".

As I mentioned in the previous post that I'm working with some other designs that I came up with that might be better but I have yet to test them. I have spent some time building them but as of yet implemented any of them. I'll add a photo of what I have built so far and the idea is to accomplish the same Make and break but utilizing a little different approach and design. I'm playing with three additional designs that use a different approach. One is a rocking design and another places the coil horizontally and uses another design utilizing gravity and a swinging motion to cause the make and break. In the photo you should be able to make out these ideas as well as the use of a different magnet that is a square design although it is still a NEO magnet just a little smaller in that it is 1/4" square. It of course still has the same amount of power that the round magnets have and the same magnetic pole arrangement. What is cool about these magnets is that they are very responsive to a mild magnetic pole created by the NS coil. I can only imagine how responsive they will be in a horizontal arrangement or placement. Now if you are wondering what type of wood I used, it is Balsa wood that you can purchase at any hobby store in various sizes and shapes. I think the piece I used in this design was 3/8" by 1/8" in size. Very light weight yet sturdy. Now I took two photos one on a white background and one on a gray background because the white background looked as if it was a bit washed out by the flash, you can be the judge. Now should you want to see a specific item better represented in a photo by itself let me know and I'll do a photo at a different angle.

In my test setup I'm using a 12 volt automobile coil in conjunction with a modified CFL and NE1 neon bulb in series with the CFL, to indicate activity of the switch. It is interesting that a 1.5 volt AA battery can light the CFL and Neon bulb although dimly but yet it lights them. To my understanding it takes at least 60+ volts to make the neon light up and I'm not sure about the modified CFL. This lends to the idea that the voltage from the coil can be stepped up in additional coils. I wish I had a second 12 volt Auto coil to test this but at this time I do not have one. Maybe someone else out there can do this testing and let us know.

More to come,
Kingman