Earth Battery SG

[Kingman]

Cathodic Protection and Magnesium Anodes

Hi Sigzidfit. Thanks so much for your response and contribution to this thread. As for being Welcomed here, I can only speak for myself but I must say I'm very glad that you chimed in with your insights into what sounds like a vast knowledge that you have attained over the years in the field of Cathodic systems and their benefits and possible failures. Anyway (From ME) to this thread and Welcome to this Forum (Energetic forum)!
I have found that this is one of the finest forums on the web and that is no BS.

PJ, I would very much like to ask you additional questions about the type of work you were doing and the voltages that were attained in installed systems that fell short and or exceeded what was expected from those systems. I'm intrigued by your comments about how the installed systems had to meet some kind of regulatory compliance so that would imply that they had performance guidelines to achieve. What were those guidelines?

Now would you feel; better to continue this talk via private email?

Most intrigued,

Stephen, aka Kingman
Do the thing and you will get the energy to do the thing!

[Kingman]

Magnetic currents.

Hi Inquorate, Sorry for not responding sooner but have been very busy with other matters that had to be attended to, Like unemployment!

Anyway you made a comment about;

I suspect earth magnetic resonance better for earth battery pulling magnetic dipole streams to generate electric current. ?

I think this might be what is going on with my Garage "battery / LED" that I currently have setup and has been running since October.

At least it makes sense to me besides other possibilities. It is most intriguing and I'm going to let this setup run as long as possible and see how long it will keep the LED lit. I mentioned in another post that I would share with all the starting voltage when I had noticed the LED had come back to life and that was 2.9 volts. I took another measurement the next day about 24 hours latter and it was up to 3.36 volts DC. I took another measurement about 3 hours ago and it was down to 3.26 volts DC. So there is some fluctuations going on that needs more study. I feel it might be what you mentioned as well as currents in the 8' foot buried copper grounding rod on the north / south alignment in conjunction with the zinc spikes that could be causing a galvanic action and maybe not! So many unanswered questions. I love a mystery and I have one in my Garage. I must admit it is fun as well as educational.

Kingman

[sigzidfit]

I think email and privacy are probably mutually exclusive and cryptographically secure communications outside of the US are considered munitions so who cares anyway.

This may help you:

Cathodic Protection 101

After reviewing the tread, the only element I don't see mentioned is Ag/AgCl (silver silver chloride)

In the inspection rackets a probe containing a small piece of fine mesh made of Ag/AgCl is used to measure (detect, receive, collect ) the potential produced by the electrical connection of dissimilar metals (steel and a zinc/aluminum alloy) in an electrlyte (i.e. salt water).

Beyond that you better talk to Richard Baxter. He has probably forgotten more about this than I'll ever know. And he's a good man, salt of the earth.

Peace
PJ

[Kingman]

Cathodic 101

PJ, thanks for the response. I did a cursory review of that web site and from what they are indicating (Voltages) is in the ball park of where my designs will be heading. I'll do a better read tomorrow.
I of course am working on a bullet proof "Make and Break" device mentioned in NS patent. I have been toying with the idea of using either silver or gold for my contact points. I'm in the process of building a better test bed to run my designs on in an attempt to build a bullet proof device. I think I'll probably end up using Gold for my final contacts for obvious reasons.
I'm going to design my test bed to provide a (Constant) yet adjustable voltage between 1/2 to 1 volt instead of using batteries that cause you to have to deal with a moving target and an undesirable diminishing voltage, although it has its merits.
If you can offer any other suggestions, Please do. I appreciate what you have provided thus far for it will surely enlighten others to the possibilities of harvesting energy from Mother Nature's bounty for it was meant to be this way!

Peace to you as well PJ and Happy Holidays to you and your Family,

Kingman

[Joit]

Hi,
There is another List of Elctrode Potentials.
Maybe you can take something else, then Grandma's good ol Ring

Standard electrode potential (data page - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Lithium doesnt looks bad too, maybe you can get it cheap from an old Batterie.
Just wonder, why Graphit is not listet at the positive Electrodes.

Btw, i could get from one Drycell, what i made, 50mA for a While.

i did take Magnesium, did make a Wire on it,
then a ca 10/2 cm Strip Kleenex folded to 5 Layers with Water, a neutral Lead, and isolate against Salt.
Over that 1 Strip Layer with Saltwater, and at the last layer i put Graphitpowder in, and connected the 2nd Wire.
Over that, again one layer with Vinegar, and it drops 1,5V/30-50 mA.
The Salt eats the Magnesium, thats why i did isolate it.
But maybe it works with Kalium or Nitrat better.
And maybe it worksbetter, when the earth is Soaked with it, and have a Roof over it.

But i still have my Doubts about the Earth Magentic Currents,
Magnetism is over the Earth too, and Earth actually increase Resistance against Current, when you go further away.
Still guessing, it is the Potential of the Metals, what give the current.
The weird thing at this still is, actually it does make a Short, because the Poles are attached, but it still gives Current.

But shows, you can get Current, you only need to make 2 Different Poles,
and no matter, if you get a Short at it.

--Edit-- Err, sorry, Fluorine is at the positive Side of the Table, not Lithium.

[Bodkins]

Hi Bodkins, Wow, how did you know? The answere is Yes. This is a battery that has been used on one of my SSG's and has gone through many charge discharge cyles What clued you in?

Kingman

Hi Kingman
Bebini charges chance the battery I think, into a sink for energy or a negative resistor. Can you check for time of day changes, daytime may work better!!


sigzidfit
Great stuff you have put in the mix my friend I thank YOU!!!

[Kingman]

Negative resister

Hi Bodkins, I was thinking about the Garage Battery / LED last night and it too occurred to me that the Battery might be acting as a negative resister and that the ions are moving backwards and drawing energy from the grounding rod setup and yet sustain the load of the LED. I did do a voltage check at High Noon today and the Voltage was off a bit. It was at 3.19 volts DC. I'll check it again after sun down tonight and would like to check it around mid night if I'm still awake at that time. So far from what I have seen it appears to get stronger at night but I'm not totally sure about that. I'll do some more readings going forward to see if this is true. I just do not want to poke and prod at this setup to much.

Kingman

Mother Nature, so many wonders and mysteries!

[Bodkins]

Been reading about sunrays hitting a sphere and the back side heats up!!!!
Night you say

[sigzidfit]

OK guys, I read carefully the NS patent and I think I've got my head around it. THIS THING IS A WINNER!! I like it. FE and stupid simple.

Here is selected text from the "object" (purpose) portion of the patent. It's not changed...just slightly reformatted and run through the word processor to remove the redundant and flowery soviet propaganda language necessary for triggering initiates and confusing slaves.

object to provide a battery for generating electrical currents of sufficient force for practical use

and generating not only a constant primary current, but also an induced momentary secondary current.

any voltaic couple immersed in water or placed in moist earth will undergo a galvanic action of sufficient intensity to produce a current when the terminals of the couple are brought in contact

this form of battery is commonly known but not capable of giving any considerable current owing to their great internal resistance.

this class of batteries is utilized but constructed as to multiply or increase the electrical output while at the same time producing a magnetic field having a inductive effect to induce a current in a solenoid or secondary coil.

a form of voltaic battery having magnetic induction properties capable of producing a current of practically constant electromotive force and being practically free of the rapid polarization common in all galvanic or voltaic batteries.

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Fig. 1 is a side elevation of an electrical battery constructed in accordance with this invention

Fig. 2 is a central longitudinal sectional view of the battery, showing the same immersed in water as the electrolyte.

Fig. 3 is an enlarged sectional view of a portion of the battery, showing more clearly the manner of winding the voltaic couple or, in other words, the wires comprising the couple.

Fig. 4 is a vertical sectional view of the battery, shown modified for use with an induction-coil.

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I'm working on annotations for the drawings and will try to communicate my interpretation of the design there.

Until then have a look at this Roy J. Meyers: Absorber (Atmospheric Electrical Generator) my intuition says it is related.

Peace
PJ

[sigzidfit]

OK Gang,

Here's how I see it.

Peace
PJ

[sigzidfit]

I forgot to thank Bodkins for the warm welcome. How rude.

Thank you Bodkins for the warm welcome.

Sorry, I get all excited when i see a phrase like "self-generating electromagnet" make it through the USPTO.

Peace
PJ

[Kingman]

Earth Battery, SSIC.

Hi Sigzidfit, excellent work and I'm happy to see your enthusiasm over your epiphany about Nathan's design. There is more than meets the eye in his patent. In my mind, something very special must take place between post 5 and post 6 of his design. I wish NS had included in his patent what he used between these two post to work his "Make and Break". I am most interested to see your next posting and drawings of what you have in mind.

Kingman

Do the thing and you will get the energy to do the thing!

Oops, my timing was off with this post for I was doing some of those needed domestic duties! Sorry.

[sigzidfit]

Correction

CHANGE COMPONENT #7 TO PERMIABLE

Apologies
PJ

[Bodkins]

quick word freqency of plant iits around 7hz will get the right one and post tomorrow
also a video i did some time ago
YouTube - Bodkins 32 Ground Waves.AVI

sorry very busy kids and life

[sigzidfit]

Priceless

"..now thats me. So, obvioulsy I live on this planet. I've got the same frequency as the planet. Which is good, or else I'd be dead." - Bodkins observing a wave form displayed when he touched his oscilloscope.

quick word freqency of plant iits around 7hz will get the right one and post tomorrow
also a video i did some time ago
YouTube - Bodkins 32 Ground Waves.AVI

sorry very busy kids and life