Earth Battery SG

[ldissing]

Great ideals gentlemen
ldissing i think your right in the patent he said it can power a wheel/trigger system

That is interesting that it said it can power a wheel/trigger system, as I did not read the patent. Just looked at the pdfs generated by one of the guys on this thread.

Just read all of the R. Adam's secret: Radiant AUTOGENERATOR COIL thread. Interesting stuff specifically the part about a generator coil producing a huge radiant spike if the coil is shorted at the right time. Way cool.

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[sigzidfit]

What a CO-INKYDINK

Hi all,

Here's my maker breaker rotor on the Ihmotep SG I'm playing with currently.

The last pic is the rotor I ran live on the internet for several days a couple of weeks ago.

Some interesting things I've seen from the simple make and break.

Peace
PJ

[Bodkins]

Hi all,

Here's my maker breaker rotor on the Ihmotep SG I'm playing with currently.

The last pic is the rotor I ran live on the internet for several days a couple of weeks ago.

Some interesting things I've seen from the simple make and break.

Peace
PJ

Brillant ideal My man will try gluing little magnet on the fans and reed switch it

[sigzidfit]

I will soon dominate the world through the use of pressure sensitive aluminum tape.

[sigzidfit]

Elementary Treatise on Electric Batteries

Gentlemen,

The School Girl is Mobile!




Here she is massaging my cell phone battery.


She started out as an Ihmotep SG interpretation that looked like this (without neon).


In this configuration the motor ran very well and was quite thrifty with the source battery.

Watching the meter on the charge battery was disappointing though, there wasn't much goin on there. However, there was something special happening where the neon is supposed to go.

So after a couple of days of watching and fiddling and poking we've arrived at a modified configuration that works pretty well.


I'm not sure why my results weren't too good with the stock circuit but the coil and stator on this one is a little different from any I've seen discussed.


The Girl gives performance that to me looks like pretty high efficiency plus some extra. I won't bore you with a bunch of numbers until I have data acquisition that is semi accurate, but at this time, the numbers are bordering on the freaky.

And, when you put yourself in the position of the charge battery, positive in one hand, negative in the other, and squeeeze....if you squeeze hard enough...you will be forced to let go.

Whils't I was over a Ihmoteps site looking for a clue I saw a video he posted that was of JB showing off his ho-made batteries. This video is a must see. In it there is discussion of converting lead acid batteries to alkaline using Alum.

Some of this may be a little off topic, maybe some one who can comment intelligently on the subject could start a new discussion Here's some results from a quick surf on the subject:

Sepp Hasslberger: How to convert a Lead Acid Battery into an Alkaline Battery

Elementary Treatise on Electric ... - Google Book Search

(WO/2007/002160) LEAD-ALKALINE BATTERY

US Patent 1098357 - Process of Treating Wood for Storage Battery Separators.
STORAGE BATTERY QQMPANY - Google Patents

US Patent 246201 - Electro-Chemical Treatment of Ores
MVTTT - Google Patents

US Patent 274082 - Secondary Battery
SECONDARY BATTERY - Google Patents

Pow!
PJ

[Bodkins]

I have that coil and stator Have a Look
YouTube - Fan SG Bedini
it was 24 volts is yours
cant wait for your results

[sigzidfit]

Bodkins,

Thanks for the vid, it was quite informative.

As far as I know it's 12v. I dug it out of a PC case that I always hated. It was an auxiliary case fan, the brand is Antec. Don't know the exact model. The sticker with the numbers is long gone.

The cell phone battery worked out pretty good I think. I'm graphing the discharge on my laptop battery as I post this. I will post results after I rub it a little with the oscillator. Also, my buddy is on his way from town bringing neons.

Peace
PJ

[sigzidfit]

SG Numbers

What does it all mean Mr Natural?

YouTube - teslaswitch's QuickCapture Video - January 20, 2009, 08:26 PM

[Bodkins]

whats the starting voltage of the charging battery and can you run a load with it after it has charged.

Love the box man

[sigzidfit]

Cooking Batteries

Bodkins,

Here's the numbers on 4 consecutive runs:

1. - time on machine - 3.25 hrs
Run Battery
Begin - 12.83
End - 12.72
Charge Battery
Begin - 11.29
End - 11.40

2. - time on machine - 1 hrs
Run Battery
Begin - 12.75
End - 12.69
Charge Battery
Begin - 12.15
End - 12.08

3. - time on machine - 2.5 hrs
Run Battery
Begin - 12.70
End - 12.67
Charge Battery
Begin - 11.40
End - 11.61

4. - time on machine - 9.5 hrs
Run Battery
Begin - 12.73
End - 12.57
Charge Battery
Begin - 11.48
End - 11.68

Between each run the battery was used normally in the laptop (i.e. time charging and discharging).

The OS reports that the battery is rated at 88.8Wh.

The last charge before I started conditioning the battery was (according to acpi) 36.5Wh or 41% of rated capacity.

Poor Condition

After the 9.5 hr run, I put the battery in the laptop, charged it fully, unplugged the power supply, and then allowed the battery to discharge fully (until the computer died and wouldn't turn on again approximately 1.75 hrs).

According to the manufacturers docs this "recalibrates" the battery. Also they recommend a full charge-discharge cycle every 30 cycles.

After that, I plugged it in, turned it on and allowed it to recharge. After charging to 100%, the battery had 40.7Wh or 45% of rated capacity.

Less Poor than Before

I've upped the input voltage to 24v (two 12v batterys) and the charge rate is now more rapid. The down side is the rotor spins much more vigorously and there's a little vibration in my rinky-dink engineering. I hate noise, and as Victor Schauberger taught, noise is indicative of waste.

Again, my apologies to all if this is too off topic. I may need guidance.

Peace
PJ

[Bodkins]

This is not off topic the topic is SG earth battery.

One more Question PJ
In the video the voltage was really high Yes? like 18v when charging but when not charging it drops to 11v Yes?
look like if the charging battery is about 12volt it will drop.

If thats the case try some little 9v batterys on the charge side and see what the charge is like also if you put a neon on is the colour normal
Bod

Im pulling Inquorate over to have a look.

[sigzidfit]

Bodkins,

Yes, while charging on the SG the voltage is very near the laptop chargers output voltage of 18.5v but with the machine stopped it drops to the battery voltage (around 11.5v). I've been putting the battery on the SG when it's at about 60%.

I'm pretty sure there's some circuitry in the battery and that maybe spoiling my efforts with the laptop battery, or maybe it's just too far gone to re-condition.

I've tried several types of batteries in the charging position. Alkaline 9v's charge pretty well...the battery in one of the meters is 9v charged in the SG it's been going several days, and there's another 9v charged and ready for the next meter battery change.

I've done lithium-Ion's in the 3.6 to 4.5v range (mp3 player, cell phone, rechargeable flashlight) , they charge fully in the SG and then power their loads as well or better than before.

I've got a couple of 12v sealed lead acids that charge pretty well.

Even my 6 months dead 6v alkaline lantern batteries take some charge.

Seems like battery condition has a lot to do with how well the SG does with it.

I've tried the stock Ihmotep circuit and my modification and I don't get anything from the neon either way. No Flashes.

A capacitor in the charge position will charge to just over 20v.

24v in the run position didn't work out too well. It made too much heat and I felt like it was abusing my girl so I'm sticking with 12v.

A couple questions for you:

1. I wonder if the battery in the meter connected to the charge battery gets pulsed? The battery in that meter has yet to go dead.

2. The numbers I posted before show after 16 hours a total drop of .36v in the run battery and a total gain of .45v in the charge battery. Is this typical performance for an Ihmotep type SG?

Peace
PJ

[Bodkins]

Sg are great at charging yes, if you charge and discharge repeatedly your charging time will drop and the load time will rise. If you look at Kingman battery outside it was on a kinda SG thing and it lighting a LED pulling in energy from the enviroment.
The laptop battery has a circuit in it so this Will effect the charge.

What you are doing is condition the battery to become a negative resistor so the postive builds up with little input.
Sorry to say but the voltage meter is not charging from the sg the batterys go for a long time in them and dont leave them on the sg all the time it will effect the charging.

Now lets look at the Earth Battery part:
Try connecting the cap again and time how long it thats to charge to 20v.
repeat this with the negative of the cap connected to ground,Result?

one last thing the neon will not light up? at all? ever?
that out the charge battery the neon will lightup? and what colour is normal for the bulb is it what you get.

Good Luck PJ
Bx

Ps dont forget to look at the first post on this thread by Arron the ground connections!

[Inquorate]

@ sigzidfit

About your meter showing battery voltage @ 11.72v with girl off, and 18v with girl on;

I've found that a metal surface attached to a neon on one leg, and other leg to multi thread insulated wires that are straight, and metal surface is horizontal same plane as wires - will light up neon in hv environment.

Same principle can affect meter readings. If you move your meter around, bend / straighten the wires, and reading changes then it is possibly showing you something is going on in meter wires, not battery. Although batteries can also channel this hv / radiant / radiation, so maybe that too. When you turn off the girl, the atomic latticework of wires / battery stop being shaken, and electrons stop swinging as energetically. This is what meters measure - electrons swinging back and forth sideways.

This is not to say that the exited state of electrons is not behaving like conventional current movement; it is, but the energetic state is not stable like conventional electron energy storage which is storing MORE electrons, instead of making the ones you've got vibrate more.

I say this because I've gotten shocks from wire ends of my neon detectors, so excited electrons still affect other electrons (ie in my skin) the same in some ways.

Interesting to note is if touch metal before the neon, neon goes out... No shock on that side.

Try making faraday cage for your meter, or touching (if not too high voltage)the metal surface your meter is attached to? Also, old vhs tape layered over each other (like tiles on roof) on piece of A4 or foolscap paper will stop the hv pulses being reciever by meter / battery / neon detector.

Interested to see what you find :-)

@bodkins, not the same effect as purple neon. personal life kinda stressful at moment, haven't done aether theory videos yet but they will explain...

[sigzidfit]

What inspired me to try conditioning the LT battery was this video:

YouTube - Reconditioning my Ipod battery, now lasts 12 hrs continuous

Click on "(more info)" and If you look at the commentary for the video there is what I would call pretty good documentation (If the data is real.) of a pretty good result with a practical application of an SG.

Also the same Utube user did a vid on the NS Earth battery:

YouTube - Stubblefield Earth Cell Battery Demonstration

As for leaving meters connected...I've seen some weird stuff there...voltage (over 2) with amperage in the machine with no batteries connected??...that dissipates when you touch the wires and then returns when you let go??

I reckon anything connected is part of the circuit...including the meters...I wish the circuit would power the telemetry.

I'll try the cap procedure you requested and post results when I do. What values do you recommend for the capacitor?

As far as ground goes, I don't have a proper ground rod outside yet. For "ground" I've been using a wire stuffed into the ground hole on the AC power strip.

Mostly I've been operating the SG without the connection to "ground", I guess cuz I figure I might want to use it in an aircraft or some other vehicle.

I know the connection to ground is important but haven't been able to discern any changes between "grounded" and "un-grounded". I won't forget about it though and will be keeping my eye out for what we get from the earth connection.

The neon bulb is clear and as of yet I haven't seen it light so I can't say what the "normal" color is. It's from Radio Shack, the package says "C2A(NE-2H)" "Rated voltage 120/240VAC" "Rated current: 1.8mA"

Peace
PJ