Earth Battery SG

[Bodkins]

Originally Posted by Aaron
Amigo,

The moment you see the destination battery voltage drop after being on the charger for a while, that is when it needs to be drained through a resistive load down to whatever voltage you want to bring it to in order to start recharging it again.

The DIP in the destination voltage is the signature of the battery telling you it is done. Keeping it on the charger after that is counter productive.

You may see the dip in voltage happening at higher and higher voltages over the conditioning process.

Anyway, that is exactly what the dip indicates.
Thanks Arron

about the cap i use 2mf

[sigzidfit]

Cool

Roger That!

Thanks Big Guy.

Peace
PJ

[ldissing]

Interesting

I did not build and install a coil into the earth.

I did put two rods, one steel and one copper into the earth, and added some water. I was able to only obtain .420 volts with these two rods, but I did not prod and poke around to try to attain higher results.

I hooked up the positive and negative to a 10 uF cap. Taking a tri-fillar coil....a Bedini SS coil I hooked it up to the capacitor. Mind you, I used two ends of the power coil which were not connected together. Then, I put the other two sides to a transistor collector and emitter. Using a 555 timer and a transistor, I pulse the transistor - which effectively hooks up the positive to negative, through the two coils to the cap, which will cause a discharge of current through those two coils.

The result....pulsed voltage which will end up at about 10V output from the third coil .... normally a trigger coil. Interesting...not done testing. And this with only 420 mV max on the cap. When it was actually running and I had a voltage meter on the cap, it varied between about 100mV to 200mV. This is a pretty good increase in voltage from a non-step up transformer.

L

[Bodkins]

Hi ldissing
you still charging from the power coils?

[ldissing]

Hi ldissing
you still charging from the power coils?

I'm not sure what you are asking, but I know this cap could be hooked up to a Bedini SS and charge batteries. The only input is for the triggering circuit....the rest is totally free....that is what Bedini always says, you have to pay for triggering the circuit.

I know it will charge, because I hooked up a solar panel (not in the sun) to a different sized caps and so since it wasn't in the sun, it had very little current. When the voltage on the cap hit the min required by the SS setup, it started running....then stopped, until the charge was back up to the right level...then starts all over again.

I'm actually charging a 330uF cap, but I did charge a 8600uF cap to this voltage as well, it just takes a little more time. All at the frequency of the earth and the devices....amazing.

L

P.S. Have to build some more coils to actually do the charging....I've been lazy and have not built more coils. NEED to build some now.

[ldissing]

The result....pulsed voltage which will end up at about 10V output from the third coil .... normally a trigger coil.

Correction - 12+ volts.

L

[Bodkins]

Cool forget the question just run with looking good

[boguslaw]

Earth battery is probably not a battery at all. It's a converter like Testatica or elementary rod generator.
What do you think about it ?

[sigzidfit]

LT & SG Update

Hello All,

Posted video update on laptop battery charging.
YouTube - teslaswitch's QuickCapture Video - January 25, 2009, 04:16 PM

Here's the circuit in the video:



Peace
PJ

[ldissing]

Earth battery is probably not a battery at all. It's a converter like Testatica or elementary rod generator.
What do you think about it ?

That would be my guess too.

The patent said that the iron wire should be bare, but could be insulated. If it is insulated, then there is no way that water should have an effect on either wire (the other already being insulated), it might have some effect on the bolt in the middle of the coil.

If the patent is correct, it should not be galvanic action, but earth currents/magnetism. Shorting the coil at points 5 and 6 should temporarily interrupt the normal earth current...and when it is re-established, we just do it again, allowing a voltage and to be obtained by the third coil if pulsed at the right time.

L

[ldissing]

Correction - 12+ volts.

I started thinking....I'm using a 12 V battery for the 555, and triggering the transistor with it. Perhaps that base voltage is affecting the output...seems it is true.

So, I am now just using the earth battery to trigger the transistor and getting a max voltage of about 3.5 V into a capacitor after a bridge. Of course, the bridge lowers the true voltage due to the diode voltage drops, so the actual output is higher. The earth battery is strange though, as it sometimes produces more power than at other times. It jumps up every so often for a while, producing more power, so the cap actually varies from about 2.5V to 3.5 V, but these are for sustained times.

I need to do some calculations on the battery waveform...it looks strange with peaks and valleys.

L

[Bodkins]

I started thinking....I'm using a 12 V battery for the 555, and triggering the transistor with it. Perhaps that base voltage is affecting the output...seems it is true.

So, I am now just using the earth battery to trigger the transistor and getting a max voltage of about 3.5 V into a capacitor after a bridge. Of course, the bridge lowers the true voltage due to the diode voltage drops, so the actual output is higher. The earth battery is strange though, as it sometimes produces more power than at other times. It jumps up every so often for a while, producing more power, so the cap actually varies from about 2.5V to 3.5 V, but these are for sustained times.

I need to do some calculations on the battery waveform...it looks strange with peaks and valleys.

L

Thats brillant well done
Now if you have a stubblefield in the ground what would you do with That
Pulsing the very thing that giving you the voltage

Then if you can sort 5 and 6 with the pulse you will have,then things get very interesting

[ldissing]

Now if you have a stubblefield in the ground what would you do with That

You are right. I should not have called what I have an earth battery, it isn't, just two rods in the ground. I should have called it an earth Dipole, I guess. Putting the coil into the ground could make a world of difference - time will tell.

The biggest problem that I've seen in the waveform is an ~ 60Hz influence. I'm afraid that I could be picking up a slight AC signal from the house. The waveform spikes up to over 1 volt in a zigzag pattern. Need to take a picture or draw it up for you guys and post it. By the way, if I ground the o-scope ground with the earth ground, then the capacitor on the back end will not charge. Any ideas on this one?

L

[Bodkins]

You are right. I should not have called what I have an earth battery, it isn't, just two rods in the ground. I should have called it an earth Dipole, I guess. Putting the coil into the ground could make a world of difference - time will tell.

The biggest problem that I've seen in the waveform is an ~ 60Hz influence. I'm afraid that I could be picking up a slight AC signal from the house. The waveform spikes up to over 1 volt in a zigzag pattern. Need to take a picture or draw it up for you guys and post it. By the way, if I ground the o-scope ground with the earth ground, then the capacitor on the back end will not charge. Any ideas on this one?

L

You will never get away from the 60Hz its everywhere but you can use it dont now how
the scope is grounded allready because of the rods.

[stringguy]

Energy From Dirt

hi guys,
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keep up the good work.

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