Earth Battery SG

[boguslaw]

You know , Earth magnetic field is not flat, there are field lines going N-S or E-W or from surface straight up ... I'm sure that absolutely ALL OU devices just tap Earth magnetic field somehow. I hope someday you will see that too.

Read for example patent 160 152 by J.C.Bryan from 1875
I had second one but now it's lost. All mentioned N-S orientation to tap magnetic currents in the earth.
Consider also different inventions so far from earth battery which supposedly tap the same energy.Like Hubbard coil, Lester Hendershot motor or some closer in time to Stubblefield like Roy Meyers Absorber from 1913

The funny thing is that we are tapping Earth magnetic field indirectly in all induction generators and motors.So called stall effect or unknown effects of starting motors different energy required when cold started or re-started again after a small period of rest.Almost 200 years of tapping that energy.

What is permanent magnets are not what we are thinking about but just a lens for Earth magnetic field ? Crazy idea, huh ?

How do you think testatika is working ?

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You know , Earth magnetic field is not flat, there are field lines going N-S or E-W or from surface straight up ... I'm sure that absolutely ALL OU devices just tap Earth magnetic field somehow. I hope someday you will see that too.

Thank you for the patent, I will read as soon as pat2pdf is back online.

The way you wrote the above, makes me believe that you do not think that I see what you are saying. I see what you are saying or I wouldn't even be trying to make an earth battery (I'd put some kind of smiley face in here, but I don't know how to make them work properly).

L

[boguslaw]

Sorry.I didn't wanted to be rude. There are some questions already answered , somebody on this plane know the answers but doesn't want us to know.

Personally I'd like to know from some inventors who successfully tapped magnetic field from permanent magnets , if that field deteriorate in time or not.

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Orientation

Orientation of the earth battery does indeed change properties of what is coming out of the earth battery. I changed the orientation to N/S on the horizontal. I will quantify and elaborate when I have some useful data.

L

[sigzidfit]

...You say "with amperage", what kind of amperage are you speaking of?...

I have a very poor example of a NS type earth battery sitting on my table right now putting out what I would call a solid 0.3mA. The meter is the one I included a photo of with my first replication attempt. It's set on the 0.5mA scale. The best battery put out the full 0.5mA.

Peace
PJ

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I...putting out what I would call a solid 0.3mA. Peace
PJ

Thank you for posting the current readings.

So, 300 uA is the current. Timothy Thrapp was talking about 5-10 Amps at 1-2 volts. So, we are only off by a several orders of magnitude . I'd settle for 300 mA, but mine is no where close to this either. Looks like it is in the 320uA range. On thinking about this, however, J Bedini says that you can't measure radiant energy with normal meters. Perhaps a gauss meter would be more useful to see what is happening with the coil?

So, we are not really there. Something else is in play here which is what I've discovered about most patents. They don't tell the whole story and since the authors/inventors are not in this plane anymore, we will just have to figure it out for ourselves.

L

P.S. Finally saw the smiley face insertion deally at the top so now I can put them in.

[Guest]

@Boguslaw; I know for a fact Felix Ehrenhaft tapped his permanent magnet as a battery.

Then I´d like to hear which kind of wiring you use, No of turns, layers etc. To increase capacitance between turns a bifilar wiring with Fe-Cu wires should do the trick as Stubblefield says. But note that Thrapp says the really good wires are hard to find....

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But note that Thrapp says the really good wires are hard to find....

Yes, but what could Stubblefield have had back in the 1870-1900. He would not have been able to afford "really good" wire. He was a farmer for goodness sakes. It can't be that difficult. We need to discover "the secret" to the device, which is not just wires around a bolt most likely.

I can say that the frequency of connecting the positive to the negative affects the current obtained across the coil. It is interesting.

L

[sigzidfit]

Here's the latest and greatest with my SG saga.
An attempt at a self run.

YouTube - SelfRunbediniSSG

Peace
PJ

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Anomaly

I built a new coil with bigger wire and it is also longer than the last coil. Instead of burying it, which is a pain and requires me to run long wires to test equipment, I put it in water. According to Stubblefield, it just needs to be moist anyway.

So I put a scope probe on there and there is nothing, no voltage or anything. I'm using 16 gauge wire for both the iron and copper. The copper is THHN stranded wire.

So, I play around with it, hooking the scope to different places and I touch the copper end of the wire (one of the wires labeled 10 in the patent) to the bolt and suddenly, there is voltage. The bolt is probably not quite right, because you can't buy a iron bolt (at least I did not find one), so it is a zinc covered steel bolt. Zinc is a different metal, though and some galvanic interaction may happen because it is zinc plated.

The top of the bolt is not in the water, so can the voltage be due to galvanic (re)action, or what? If I touch the iron wire to the bolt, no voltage. I'm thinking that the covering on the bolt needs to isolate the iron wire from the bolt better than just using cotton cloth, which is what I used for the layer around the bolt and the wire layers.

Any ideas on this?

BTW, the current is higher with the bigger wire. I was able to get over 1mA, which is still peanuts, but bigger than before.

L

[Guest]

Listen to the interview with Thrapp and what he says about tuning the right frequency. There is some part to tune very carefully I am sure.

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Implications?

[QUOTE=Bodkins;38457]I quote(summary): " The top of all trees is always a north magnetic monopole while the south magnetic monopoles all migrate to the root system as they are attracted to soil, rocks and stones. The north magnetic monopoles are attracted to the leaves. This gives the tree a magnetic dipole charge. The roots act as wave guides for south poles to run up through plant stem and recombine with north magnetic poles, their former mates. A good conductor of magnetic monopoles is the opposite to an insulated conductor. The core of the plant root stem is a wood-like material like cellulose(plastic) covered by a barklike material which contains water like sap which is an electric conductor."

Are you implying that there is a orientation requirment in a earth battery?
What do you recommend...

[Bodkins]

Hello wpage

All Im saying is that nature has the anwsers.
The potential difference is key.
Look at the Atom Not merely a convenient schematic planetary supposition of the electron revolving round a nucleus.
But a Dense entity whose space is vacumm.

the kernel and the shell functioning as a whole the nut.

In the case it is the hydrogen core in the glowing state and its cold complementary oxygen stressfield, the living Atom! No other exists in Nature, it is the creative entity of the life energy or Biomagnestism.
Look at the Sun Hydrogen core and the oxygen stressfield.
Hydrogen and oxygen are the north and south of the magnet, the material of the magnet is carbon,

The aether is a latent potential carbon, stress it and you get Hydrogen and oxygen (before it turns in to Matter)the north and south of the magnet.


What do you recommend you say???
Read Cyrill W Davson the primary state of Matter and enjoy
For what is prayer but the expansion of yourself into the living ether?

[boguslaw]

Did you saw this ? : THE STUBBLEFIELD PAPERS

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Read that thanks

Good reads thanks for that...

Will try the south to north reco by stubblefield. Copper to zinc respectivly. Interesting that biblically Christ calls lightning east to west in its flow.

Orientiation like timing is important. Good testing requires a place to start