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    Wanna switch off on but with huge power input?

    This is what I'm getting nxt week on payday..

    Jaycar Electronics

    Jaycar Electronics
    Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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    • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
      Wanna switch off on but with huge power input?

      This is what I'm getting nxt week on payday..

      Jaycar Electronics

      Jaycar Electronics
      Hmm, Aussie?

      @ Aromaz, Teslas photo in his lab was a double exposure Im pretty sure. There is nothing safe about Tesla coils at all. Sure if one understands the HV/HF one can protect oneself in various ways, but there are plenty of things that can go horribly wrong! We are dabbling with HV off the ignition coil, but not enough current to do much harm. Still enough to burn you if you are its path to ground, I had a few blisters from that.

      1 transistor can be done easily, you've picked up that a quick kickstart can get the thing running in a self-oscillation mode. At the beginning of this thread we utilized John Bedinis circuit in self oscillation mode with an extra coil and the ignition coil in parallel with this coil to get a continous oscillation. Look at this post here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post27291 and you will see what I am talking about. The ignition coils primary is in parallel to the power coil.

      I only say this to better your education, so please dont take it the wrong way. You should look up resonance, learn about the conditions it creates, what influences it etc. I hate to say it, but I dont think any of these builds are truely resonant. There is the nature of oscillatory systems, and then there is the nature of resonance. Tesla coil builds (like the musical ones posted above) will teach you all about resonance, there is one element in the simplest tesla coil that most of us here still arent using in our builds. Look up LC circuits if you are interested... here is a start: LC Oscillations and Resonance Alot of resonant pages talk about AC resonance, but there can be resonance in a DC system too.

      Regarding 2n3055. My setup wont work as well with other transistors, even MLJ21194. Seems there is something in this little gem. I also found that with the darlington configuration I could place the MOT coil in the negative leg of the circuit and get results, without the darlington I couldnt. There is something in that darlington configuration (2n2222/2n3055 or in my case h11d1/2n3055) that allows the coil in the negative leg, and outputs light.
      Last edited by ren; 12-02-2008, 08:47 PM.
      "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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      • Will done Aromaz really like the idea of the ground triggering the transistor. Potential in the the planet is big and we are just scratching the surface, Please Amoraz can you put your scope on your ground and check the signal and frequence just maybe if you match it things May start happening.
        I will try and redo some experiment that have given me spark coming from the ground.
        @Nat this is the brick one

        Lokke
        been reading the Biefeld-Brown Effect i dont now if it is or not but what i think is that the HV only plays a small part in the lighting of the bulb because without the bulbs the amp draw is the same

        @Ren i aggree i dont think its resonance effect but if we get resonance with the planet it will be?
        quote ren
        there is one element in the simplest tesla coil that most of us here still arent using in our builds.
        Im trying its blood hard
        Last edited by Bodkins; 12-02-2008, 09:30 PM.

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        • Until nxt week, one can dream..

          http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/...s/04-T-A00.gif

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          Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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          • Back to normal

            Originally posted by Lidmotor View Post
            Aromaz-- (1) 2n3055 GREAT!!!! Everybody should watch 16b and then step back and ask yourself----What the heck is going on here? Now what? Lidmotor
            Last night (or early morning) I de-soldered all 2N3055 transistors form heat sink, then I put each one individual to run. Every time a very short 'kick start' and up it goes. Lights very dim as per video 016b. Each transistor were tested like this for more than 5 times. Ran each one for 15 minutes non stop. Did not get hot.

            Then I though of myself "Complete moron” Should have used only one transistor from the beginning; and saved lots of excitement and time.

            This morning first thing I did when I got back is to connect battery and kick-start. Dead. Nothing. Zero. Changed transistor - same result. Same result on all four transistors. Put two in series, in parallel and in Darlington - Dead. Tried three, then back to four - got it working after many attempts to kick start - which even made the transistor warm.

            Add in 2N3055 - Perfect, as usual.

            THUS: It seems that the transistors were somehow changed - and retained their ability to self resonate for a while. This needs to be looked into further.
            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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            • Yes, one can do .......

              Originally posted by ren View Post
              Hmm, Aussie?

              @ Aromaz, Teslas photo in his lab was a double exposure Im pretty sure. There is nothing safe about Tesla coils at all. Sure if one understands the HV/HF one can protect oneself in various ways, but there are plenty of things that can go horribly wrong! We are dabbling with HV off the ignition coil, but not enough current to do much harm. Still enough to burn you if you are its path to ground, I had a few blisters from that.

              1 transistor can be done easily, you've picked up that a quick kickstart can get the thing running in a self-oscillation mode. At the beginning of this thread we utilized John Bedinis circuit in self oscillation mode with an extra coil and the ignition coil in parallel with this coil to get a continous oscillation. Look at this post here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post27291 and you will see what I am talking about. The ignition coils primary is in parallel to the power coil.

              I only say this to better your education, so please dont take it the wrong way. You should look up resonance, learn about the conditions it creates, what influences it etc. I hate to say it, but I dont think any of these builds are truely resonant. There is the nature of oscillatory systems, and then there is the nature of resonance. Tesla coil builds (like the musical ones posted above) will teach you all about resonance, there is one element in the simplest tesla coil that most of us here still arent using in our builds. Look up LC circuits if you are interested... here is a start: LC Oscillations and Resonance Alot of resonant pages talk about AC resonance, but there can be resonance in a DC system too.

              Regarding 2n3055. My setup wont work as well with other transistors, even MLJ21194. Seems there is something in this little gem. I also found that with the darlington configuration I could place the MOT coil in the negative leg of the circuit and get results, without the darlington I couldnt. There is something in that darlington configuration (2n2222/2n3055 or in my case h11d1/2n3055) that allows the coil in the negative leg, and outputs light.

              @Ren, TESLA COIL - think I was sleeping a bit. There was something else that I referred to and had it mixed up with the lightning coils.

              SINGLE TRANSISTOR: I agree one transistor can work - but NOT alone - it needs at least a brake(resistor) and steering (Diode) - and mostly a driver (555 or bounce back from coil). In my video's it is battery - 2N3055 - coil.

              With diodes and resistors - yes. As per many circuits. However, when you use the diodes and resistors you start controlling the oscillations. And that is what me (we ?) had problems with in the beginning - burning up 555's, resistors and diodes. I had diodes literally exploding.

              The original circuit I posted does not control the oscillations - bar for the limitations of the components in the system itself. The oscillations are fluctuating - I will mention it here but will not point it out otherwise or in video. People got to be reading to see this. With my experiments I was mostly interested in the frequency behavior - all the rest I posted and public video are by-products, spectators to the game.

              I never take something as an insult; well – maybe for a short few seconds if it is very rude until I can process it to see the silver edge – compliments. As I am only a student here – no ‘wrong way’ possible. I do appreciate your input and EVERYTHING does give me time/options to ponder. Every persons viewpoint is ALWAYS welcomed by me, you will never need to appologize.

              I did study frequencies, resonance, octaves, harmony, etc reasonably well – much more than electronic/electrical. THAT is why this system is truly intriguing me.

              “Resonance is the tendency of a system to oscillate at maximum amplitude at certain frequencies”

              When we are controlling the frequency in whatever way; and there is any kind of change, be it inside the system, atmospheric, night or day, etc – such maximum amp will change. However if the frequency is able to fluctuate in sympathy, you will retain the optimal fq and maximum amp. Refer to Bedini SG and the continues changes to keep the perfect sweetspot. After some time you get it so the optimum is achieved – but that is ‘optimum’ as in ‘average maximum’; though in a very small spectrum.
              Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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              • @ Aromaz /// Tesla's box

                I noticed that effect, had to pulse 2n3055 signal transistor with 99.9hz signal from imhotep fan to start it oscillating. After only a minute, it will now react to radiant energy and self oscillate. The Tip35c's are the same.. Appear to have been conditioned.

                When I put hv from pos secondary of coil to cfl -
                1: to base of 2n3055 driving 3 Tip35c's, frequency went from 1500 hz (with only ground connection) to 2500hz.
                2: to base of the 3 Tip35c's, frequency of oscillations went up to 6000hz to 8000hz
                3: spark to pos of drive battery, oscillations were in 11000 to 20000hz range.

                - obviously, light brighter with higher frequency using ignition coil.

                /// on another note, I remember reading tesla patent - one of earlier ones - where tesla said that pulsed dc current in vacuated tube (high aether content, low mass content) caused longitudinal compressions in aether that could cause a charge or remove a charge in a distant capacitor, with no intermediary charge present.

                Keeping that in mind, read the following page.....

                Tesla Electric Car #2 - 01/09/98
                Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                • Sources of 'story'

                  Tesla Electric Car #1 - 01/09/98
                  Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                  • I did try my idea with 2 MOTs, wasn't good one. Now I'm back to just one. Aromaz you had a good idea to treat CFL as Grays tube with magnetic wire around. Now all we need to do to figure out how to convert HV to usable LV electricity.
                    Also I doubled voltage on my schema from 12V to 24V, current usage went from 80ma to 100ma. But CFL is much brighter.
                    Last edited by mlurye; 12-03-2008, 02:20 AM.
                    Mike

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                    • Deatialed schematics

                      Originally posted by mlurye View Post
                      Here is what I'm planning to test today. I will use 2 MW transformers. Any thoughts or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
                      Aromaz keep trying And we'll get there.
                      Here is the link to page with this circuit experiments : [url=http://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Pages&op=page&pid=18]
                      you may use google translator to read it. Quite informative.

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                      • Self oscillating reciever circuit

                        been reading Tesla's patents again, he says his reciever circuit tuned to naturally existing or artificially created impulse frequencies in aether has devise to intermittently discharge cap as it fills up. He talks about possibly using strained dielectric that recieves same impulse, causing intermittent breakdown and thus discharges cap.

                        Wether receiving circuit is gray's conversion tube or metal sphere or pancake coil with receiving plate, the self oscillating 2n3055 with grounded base is a perfect choice. After all, solid state transistors are exactly what he was calling for - just like strained dielectric.
                        Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                        • Originally posted by RealityMaker View Post
                          Here is the link to page with this circuit experiments : [url=http://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Pages&op=page&pid=18]
                          you may use google translator to read it. Quite informative.
                          Spasibo konechno. No ya i sam so vcem etim yzhe naekcperementirovalsia
                          Mike

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                          • Originally posted by mlurye View Post
                            Spasibo konechno. No ya i sam so vcem etim yzhe naekcperementirovalsia
                            Well time to move further on

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                            • @ aromaz an example Viktor S.Grebennikov's platform don't run ever if remember right only day and summer because there is an exange of aether betwen earh and sun
                              in the day fron sun to earth in the night from earth to sun

                              i think your circuit run good when there's aether good condition in fact i think if you touch base or emitter whit your finger it start because you give some of your ather at the system

                              i hope to have being understandable my english really suck
                              ciao

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                              • Steped back - Not a fool after all.

                                Originally posted by gnino View Post
                                @ aromaz an example Viktor S.Grebennikov's platform don't run ever if remember right only day and summer because there is an exange of aether betwen earh and sun
                                in the day fron sun to earth in the night from earth to sun

                                i think your circuit run good when there's aether good condition in fact i think if you touch base or emitter whit your finger it start because you give some of your ather at the system

                                i hope to have being understandable my english really suck
                                ciao
                                Thank you for that small piece of info. I have seen some writings about Viktor - The crazy scientist that made things fly. There is a rumor that he actually used a podium to fly? Though I could not (yet?) find any writings of people that witnessed his flights. Recently there was an TV article about him and how he started all after a honey bee encounter on mountain cliff.

                                I have very good friends in Russia and Ukraine that is trying to translate some Russian documents for me. Though bit techincally difficult. In general I suspect the Russians were in fact ahead of American or other western scientist with this (and other like medicine) alternative work.

                                What I appreciate of many Russian works are the fact that they often just accept the occurance and proceed to find more usefull applications. They are not always into the details of how to control or the what/why/how questions.
                                Unfortunately it also make it difficult to prove, understand and replicate.

                                BACK TO REALITY:
                                I bought all new components today - 3055's and 2222A. Set up brand new system on original diagram and found:

                                A: I was not a fool.

                                B: Nothing works unless I do the original circuit.

                                C: Tried with old circuit parts again; did not work like it did last night.

                                D: Then I build the original circuit with the old used parts and ran it for 3 hours.
                                Stopped and broke up - TRUE all transistors was self oscillating as solo; BUT:
                                - the longest one 48 minutes,
                                - the shortest 12 minutes - after this none will work solo anymore.

                                By that time the new components were running for nearly 6 hours, original phenomena of cold, ultra quiet and bright lights.

                                I stopped and broke them up :
                                - can get working with long struggle without 2222A chip and at least 3x 3055's BUT only for few minutes. However as solo transistor - no go. None whatsoever and no matter how hard I tried.

                                Now I have just finished a new array, new parts but running it with 24Vdc. Very nice bright lights - run from FlTube/coil reactor - and reactor it is. After 12 hours running the tube inside (under copper coil) is very dark gray - like burned out. Defiantley does not give light out except on tipe where there was no copper winding. Though it still transfers energy.
                                Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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