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  • Originally posted by ren View Post
    BTW Luc, I think you are partly onto something there too. I think the open path on his secondary is a big help, but I also think the capacitance inherent in his grounding, along with the resistances of his combined loads, matched to his specific coil IS the reason he has the results he has. Its something that we cant really replicate in its entirety, due to the nature of all the possibilities/variables. Something that the experimenter would need to tinker and test with, just like Aromaz has done. A step in the right direction IS using the same coil he has, it eliminates some of the guess work. Not all coils are created equal thats for sure.

    Aromaz if you could, measure the inductance and resistance of your primary and secondary so that we can take it into account...
    Hi Ren,

    Yes I agree with you ... there could be many things at play.

    One of the reason I asked Corrie for the coil details is, even If I had the secondary henrys reading of his coil my meters probably could not measure it since I tried it on the 2 coils I have and get no readings. I think the henry reading maybe past my meter capability but I have no problem reading the primary

    So as you say, it may save time in just getting the same coils

    One thing that could be helpful is if Corrie to pickup a different make of coil and see if he can still replicate the effect.

    Thanks for sharing

    Luc

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    • Originally posted by broli View Post
      That's the big misconception. That's not how a Tesla coil is supposed to work at all. The secondary was meant to produce aetheric current around the coil instead of inside the conductor. There also have to be a mass relation as in the secondary has to have the same mass as the primary conductor for optimal results. Sparks are not a good thing they are supposed to be eliminated until you only end up with white fire. Which is harmless to the touch.
      Did you found the reason why the mass must match ? I'm still searching but maybe it is related to efficient flow of "aetheric" streams ?

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      • Originally posted by nat1971a View Post
        Hi nat,

        just saw your video mate ... excellent

        So, would you say you are you the first to replicate Aromaz's no amp draw circuit?

        Could you please post your circuit if it's different then what was posted in the past pages

        Thanks for sharing.

        Luc
        Last edited by gotoluc; 12-07-2008, 01:20 AM.

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        • All,

          If it helps

          Heres the parts i am using:-

          ST2n3055 x5
          33G PN2222A
          Sourced from radio parts here in australia

          I connected a ground to the base of the 2222A just as aromaz did...Worked first time out of the box...just as per aromaz circuit

          The ignition coil is a bosch SU12 sourced from supercheap auto here in australia.

          The ground connection is a aluminum plate in the ground....

          Very interesting to see the amp meter not register at all!!

          Cheers

          Nat

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          • And the amp meter is virtually brand new...only bought it a couple of months ago

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            • Great work Nat
              Thank you
              It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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              • actually the ground is more a aluminum strap...quite thick...about 3 feet long

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                • Setup

                  OK, here is what I can give you:

                  I have four coils, 2x No-Name, 2x Hitachi.
                  Though slight different in resonace, they work nearly the same.
                  Two coils of same 'make' tested exactly the same. Mass production.
                  Used in latest video were all the No-Name brand.
                  When 2x coils, they are the same pair.

                  Set #1 = No-Name (on left)
                  + to - = 1.92 Ohm
                  + to HV = 10.42 k Ohm
                  HV to - = 10.42 k Ohm

                  Set #2 = Hitachi
                  + to - = 1.6 Ohm
                  + to HV = 8.56 k Ohm
                  HV to - = 8.56 k Ohm

                  Attached photos of everything:
                  KSP2222A -303, 2N3055, setup views

                  Note: 2222 on left face forward, on right face backwards!
                  Last edited by Aromaz; 01-14-2009, 07:35 AM.
                  Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                  • More photos

                    Below more photos to continue from previous.

                    Today (I hope) to change the complete setup. This will take some time.

                    I want to isolate this whole thing from all other possible interference and see if it will still work. For instance I am going to build a test box (Faraday cage)on a table, all double insullated with foam and wire mesh, and double window to see inside, complete own ground plate. If it works somewhat, then we know ground capacitance and building is not involved. If it does not work, then still easy to connect ground up to plate and also to transport whole set to farm for testing.
                    Last edited by Aromaz; 01-14-2009, 07:36 AM.
                    Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                    • Originally posted by anut View Post
                      Greeting. Yes, it is sort of wireless transmission. It is wireless in the sense that no metallic wire is involved, but it is probably not the Tesla version of wireless energy transmission.
                      I agree 100% with you. It is not in the line of scalar waves, rather just completely charged environment. Allow an old man to play a bit too?

                      However, I did learn a few things from this. I did not intend to go 'wireless' it was a by-products. Though since this was first seen on Wednesday I did play a bit more with it - and I expanded the thing quite a bit.

                      My agreement and offer is:
                      The first discovery will be completely public, free for everyone. Simple utility which will mostly benefit the less fortunate people on earth. That is the low power economical light - which I am still working on 98% of time. Let there be light!!!! Thus we can see........see.....seeee!

                      Second discover will be more complicated - and that will be for commercial purposes to cover my expenses and make some profit for my partners/friends/investors. Presently I think it will be the wireless transfer -which in fact is substantial different from Tesla.

                      Then # 3 will be public release again. #4 for personal gain.... all odd numbers is free public domain, all even numbers are personal gain.

                      Folks, there is one thing that puzzles me a bit.

                      Over the past 60 ? years, MANY people tried - and had success - with Teslas's work. Personally I have the greatest respect for N. Tesla and all his work. But time has moved on. We are now 100 years more advanced and have 70 years of new discoveries.

                      Better still, we have the internet and many easy material and parts access through the world. In Tesla’s days it was snail mail – if he made a experiment and wanted people in Frankfurt to copy – it took 3 to 6 months to get their results back. We can do it in the same day – in many countries world wide. He had to make hand drawings – TIME consuming and hope the others will understand. We can make drawings based on standard symbols and techniques – AND we can make photos, full colour, full detail like I did above…and we can make video – which are all available to be seen by many people, world wide in less than 30 minutes!

                      Is it not possible that the effects Tesla proved to us - can be achieved by means other than the original ideas he had? Is it not time for us to look at Tesla’s RESULTS and see how we can get that - possibly and likely with other means? If we just keep on trying to copy we are not really going to get anywhere.

                      After all, so many universities and institutions like INTEL has spent millions of dollars to replicate some of his work .....BUT they are all in the groove. Locked in a steel box of conformity.

                      There are so many more phenomena which needs exploration: Mass reduction, anti-gravity, untra sonic speed, sound levitation ........

                      Lets move out, expand, experiment – PLAY and get OUT OF THE BOX.
                      Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                      • Thank you Corrie for the great detailed photos and parts information

                        I really appreciate all the work you have put into this.

                        @everyone,

                        I just completed some basic tests. The tests was to only try to get a coil primary to resonance and observe the effects. One thing I found that would be important is if you use a Analogue Meter it will give a false reading and if you use a digital meter you will need to set it to AC.
                        Even though your source battery is DC the transistor is pulsing the DC through your meter and you will get a false reading if you use it on the DC amp. mode. This DC pulsing is also why an analogue meter will not work as we are pulsing the coil in the 20khz range and they cannot display a correct reading at this frequency due to the analogue needle coil frequency limit.

                        Please accept my apology if all of you know this. I'm just trying to make sure we are all on the same page on the way we measure amps.

                        Thank you for all your great work and sharing

                        Luc

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                        • Wondering Old man

                          Originally posted by nat1971a View Post
                          actually the ground is more a aluminum strap...quite thick...about 3 feet long
                          The GROUND effect does bother me a bit. It is fine for the economical lights I want to make for the less fortunate people, if it works and uses our ground power - HAPPY ME! The institutions can not measure it, can not charge them

                          However for the real aspect in science and out experiments it has a bite in it. I made a very simple device early on some 4 months ago. I wound 100 lengths of copper wire over a sheet of 100x100 cm plywood - one winding every 1 cm. Connected this up to earth and a bridge diode set and four small nano F capacitors - and I charged my mobile phone on it. It was not my invention, got it from the internet. BUT it worked.

                          Where is all that energy from? Most likely form billions of building dumping excess energy through their earth wires, power stations, transformers, electric wires all over the world - POWER LEAKING TO GROUND. Add to this power transmissions from mobile phones, radio and TV stations..... The list goes on.

                          These power source in the earth are not completely natural – and that makes our reliance to use it as GROUND in our circuits ………… just dependant on the power grit again! Defiance of our whole target. Yes, I do agree there is power form earth, but how can we today distinguish between Earth Power vs Grit power leakage vs Communications signal power?

                          Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                          • AC or Ping-Pong ?

                            Originally posted by gotoluc View Post
                            ...........This DC pulsing is also why an analogue meter will not work as we are pulsing the coil in the 20khz range and they cannot display a correct reading at this frequency due to the analogue needle coil frequency limit........
                            II am not so sure. Something is somewhere very different. You say freq above 20 kHz - I never had it higher than 9 kHz and that was for very few fraction seconds. Usually max out between 4k and 7k.

                            I think the AC effect might be coming in with back EMF since the only closed loop is between bat pos to bat neg. But that is not necessarily a bad thing either - because that can only prove the ping-pong effect - thus the reason why the battery does not run down like you would expect with the amount of energy used.

                            This can then explain why some meters will have reading and some will not work at all. Not necessarily AC – but forward and backward (ping-pong) electron movement. Each time the direction changes, it possibly cause a small vacuum spot ….. something might be worthwhile to look into.
                            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                            • Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
                              II am not so sure. Something is somewhere very different. You say freq above 20 kHz - I never had it higher than 9 kHz and that was for very few fraction seconds. Usually max out between 4k and 7k.

                              I think the AC effect might be coming in with back EMF since the only closed loop is between bat pos to bat neg. But that is not necessarily a bad thing either - because that can only prove the ping-pong effect - thus the reason why the battery does not run down like you would expect with the amount of energy used.

                              This can then explain why some meters will have reading and some will not work at all. Not necessarily AC – but forward and backward (ping-pong) electron movement. Each time the direction changes, it possibly cause a small vacuum spot ….. something might be worthwhile to look into.
                              Thanks for the quick reply Corrie,

                              well, I did not say above 20khz but around this range. Point being that analogue meters are not reliable at these frequencies. I tried it with an analogue meter and found out it was not displaying correctly. To check it I placed a low amp 12v bulb in series on the positive lead from the battery. If the bulb lights or glows it is an indication amps are flowing that's when I noticed that as I changed pulse frequency the meter was not following the bulb intensity changes. So I connected my good quality digital meter and it was only on the AC amp setting that it was following the bulb intensity correctly.

                              Please do not get me wrong, this is not a criticism and defiantly not a replication of your circuit. I am only pulsing a primary of a coil using a 12v battery, switch by one mofset triggered by a signal generator and observing the effects at various frequencies with different capacitor value in parallel with the primary (LC circuit) to see if I can get it to resonate. That is when I noticed the above.

                              Thank you for your most excellent work and looking forward to hopefully soon replicate your work

                              Thank you for sharing.

                              Luc
                              Last edited by gotoluc; 12-07-2008, 04:16 AM.

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                              • Corrie's wire wrapped tube

                                I built and tested parts today. I now have the spark gap device and the wire wrapped flourescent tube. What I am missing are some transistors which I hope to get soon. The shortened circuit that I am now using is probably why I am still drawing too many amps but I'm hooked on it because it seem to be bullet proof and it makes GREAT BIG sparks. Even my wife thought that it looked pretty cool today and she doesn't care for most of this stuff.
                                I am trying to correlate what I am seeing to what I am learning from everybody here and the info on the web. The more that I learn the more that I want to know. Tesla facinates me. I started looking at pigeons a little different today. Mart where do I get the feed?
                                Here is the video of the new parts:

                                YouTube - Tesla High Voltage Display

                                Lidmotor
                                Last edited by Lidmotor; 12-07-2008, 06:14 AM.

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