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  • CFL bulb coil

    Originally posted by Vortex View Post
    Looking at my "CFL Table Candle circuit".

    My Coil around the top of the CFL bulb cutting the bulb in half.
    If the bulb coil is connected to just about any place in the circuit, the
    1st half of the bulb will brighten and the second half will dim.
    The coil chokes off the flow through the bulb, but the ?back pressure?
    brightens the 1st half. What does that mean?

    A wet or licked finger will make the bulb brighter than a dry finger.
    Maybe that's why a carrot works, the water content.

    Foil connected to the non-HV side of the CFL will cause the foil to SING
    (whine) to you if you touch the foil. Move your finger around the foil.
    What does that tell us?

    Observing .. no longer
    Randy
    Hi Randy,
    I played around with different coil locations on the bulb and found that a small coil right at the beginning of the HV side did not effect the brightness nor the running of the circuit- IF-- you didn't try to connect it to anything in the primary circuit. That is why I setup a second independent circuit. To me it reminds me of trying to directly connect the charge battery to the source on a Bedini--it just kills it. Your singing foil is like what I heard when I tried an alluminum pie tin against the CFL as an antenna pick up. This thing really has a voice. Is it Elvis?

    Lidmotor

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    • What kind of energy in secondary circuit?

      @Lidmotor: Nice experiment again!
      Do you think that batteries charged with the captured energy will also last longer than normal batteries? I am trying to figure out if it is radiant spikes charging the capacitor in the secondary circuit or just amplified RF converted into current.

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      • Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
        @Lidmotor: Nice experiment again!
        Do you think that batteries charged with the captured energy will also last longer than normal batteries? I am trying to figure out if it is radiant spikes charging the capacitor in the secondary circuit or just amplified RF converted into current.
        I don't know. I really really don't know. This might be simple induction occuring in the little coil when the bulb fires OR----something else.
        In Joe Tate's setup he is just capturing the RF in the air. This bulb wrap idea may be a butterfly net effect capturing whatever gets in it. Who cares. I see it as a free lunch.

        Lidmotor

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        • Lidmotor`s replication

          Okay i have replicated Lidmotor`s latest circuit.
          It works well, i have managed to charge the capacitors to 39 Volts even.
          I had to use 1N60s instead of 1N34s, maybe they allow for a higher voltage.
          Here a little video of the circuit:
          YouTube - IMGP8770

          I was not able to charge non-rechargable batteries (4 x 1.5V Mignon) at all however when connecting them to the circuit. 1 hour passed and i still have 5.87 V battery charge like before. Maybe i did something wrong.
          Last edited by Xenomorph; 01-07-2009, 11:13 PM.

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          • @sucahyo;

            The 2222 is low current transistors - in particular big difference between input and output. They can not handle much heat or extreme frequency. Typically in power applications they are used for switching other transistors because they need less power (30mA, 3V) to switch.

            There are more than 22 different packages for the same or similar transistor values. The general rule of the thumb for the three main ones we are working: (This is not law !)

            TO-92 - Kind of plastic encapsulated, higher frequency, lower power (current), low heat

            TO-10 - Metallic (Al) can is similar to TO-92 but reduced external interferences on signal, often with additional earth pin. Can handle little more power (amp)

            TO-3 - As example 3055 - Low interference from outside, higher current handling (115W), withstand more heat (200 deg C).

            TO-218 (TiP package) Lower heat than TO-3 (150 deg C), lower current (90W) more affected by environment disturbances.
            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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            • Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
              @Lidmotor: Nice experiment again!
              Do you think that batteries charged with the captured energy will also last longer than normal batteries? I am trying to figure out if it is radiant spikes charging the capacitor in the secondary circuit or just amplified RF converted into current.
              The current from the coil around the CFL is normal AC power. It is the same effect as I have with the fluorecent tube with the coil wire around it.

              @Lidmotor: Nicely done. I used this circuit and tested it even charging my mobile phone, though the charge does not last long. Connect the other end of the circuit to earth with a very small diode, should find an increase in charging the caps. Adding this to charge back to batteries should extend your run time. Nice!
              Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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              • YouTube - Wireless Transmission of Electrical Energy, Tesla 1900 part9

                He has been mentioned a couple of times already but why isn't he on this forum . He seems to have a really big bag of experience with tesla research.

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                • @Aromaz,

                  Thank you ! . That info save me from a lot of trial and error .

                  I fried a couple of 2N2222 today thinking that maybe I can avoid the problem by different method back EMF dumping. My latest video teach me that HHO cells absorb this back EMF much better than computer fan I use for solid state version. Maybe not as good as rechargable battery but with HHO cell I know that my relay still running, it's very silence now since I weaken the spring. But I still fried the 2N2222 even when I use HHO cell.

                  I bought TIP3055 yesterday but I can't make it work yet. I hope I can work it out.

                  BTW, I already found the store that sell ST 2N3055. The toshiba one is failed already. Thanks for the suggestion.


                  @everyone,
                  Is there other circuit available that have feature:
                  - square wave
                  - controllable frequency and duty cycle
                  - minimum back EMF path
                  - can withstand back EMF

                  I choose single load two transistor multivibrator because it has all of them. It has squarewave output, if we replace R1 and R2 with variable transistor we can control both frequency and duty cycle. the back EMF path is coil, capacitor, back EMF dumper and the transistor it self.

                  I assume that the capacitor should be able to stop the back EMF flow so it will revert to other path. The transistor may leak some of back EMF, the coil will force the back EMF to other path, I think majority would go to the back EMF dumper.


                  BTW, is there a safe way to measure the amp of back EMF or any radiant energy that used to charge battery or powering something? I damaged the amp meter part of my multimeter. Currently I have to use my HHO cell as amp meter.


                  Would Lidmotor secondary charging circuit can be enhance with some resonance tuning like Konstantin Meyl do?

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                  • Replication

                    Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
                    Okay i have replicated Lidmotor`s latest circuit.
                    It works well, i have managed to charge the capacitors to 39 Volts even.
                    I had to use 1N60s instead of 1N34s, maybe they allow for a higher voltage.
                    Here a little video of the circuit:
                    YouTube - IMGP8770

                    I was not able to charge non-rechargable batteries (4 x 1.5V Mignon) at all however when connecting them to the circuit. 1 hour passed and i still have 5.87 V battery charge like before. Maybe i did something wrong.
                    Good job Xenomorph! That is a higher voltage on that charge cap than I have gotten. I hooked up one AA rechargeable to the circuit like Joe Tate said to do and it seems to be accepting the energy ok. There is so little amperage here that you can't shove the juice into much. Maybe somebody else has an idea??

                    @ Aromaz -- Thanks for the info on the transistors. I'm thinking about making two parallel circuits for the light. One for low light/ low draw with the little 2222s and another circuit along side it with the big boy transistors for high amp/ bright light. Some kind of switch would let you choose which one to use. The two circuits may need to be completely different.

                    Lidmotor

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                    • Cap charge with radiant

                      A cap in vicinity of square wave circuit with long wires (which leak more, when I soldered it all close together it didn't leak so much) a cap with antenna wire (ie alligator clip wire) on pos, and neon from neg of cap then to ground will light up the neon but show no charge on cap when measured with meter.

                      Unless you move the meter closer to square wave source of leak, and it will show higher voltage.

                      BUT disconnect meter, voltage still shows up as long as wires are straight. Bend the meter wires to 90 degrees halfway and voltage halves. Whole of meter's wires perpendicular to source, and voltage almost zero.

                      This is same principle as 'detector'

                      :-)
                      Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                      • @Lidmotor,
                        Has ball shaped metal as antenna ever been tested for Joe TATE Ambient Power Module?

                        The capacitor value need to be changed?
                        LETTER FROM GREG HODOWANEC
                        RESONANT FREQUENCY OF THE AETHER
                        The following is from an overlooked letter from Greg Hodowanec, dated September 8, 1996.
                        Dear colleague: The following may be of interest to you.
                        POSSIBLE RESONANCES IN THE UNIVERSE.
                        The fundamental frequency in the Universe is the Ryhsmonic (aetheric) frequency f* which is equal to
                        1/T* or 1/5.391 x 10-44 sec. which is about 1.855 x 1043 Hz.
                        Interaction with this fundamental frequency under resonance conditions should result in an exchange of
                        energy, i.e., energy extraction. Some possible resonances are now considered, with remarks on possible
                        confirmation: without reference to powers (fundamental to operating frequency ratios) the basic
                        frequencies are now listed:
                        Frequency Remarks
                        1. 1.855 Hz This is a Schuman resonance and is also seen in Rysmonic
                        GW resonance (ч 2 Hz).
                        2. 3.710 Hz This is also seen in Schuman.
                        3. 7.42 Hz This is also seen in Schuman as a more pronounced
                        resonance.
                        4. 3.710 KHz These frequencies were seen in the coil tests (Cosmology
                        9.275 KHz Note 3/16/96)
                        18.550 KHz Also, man of these frequencies were see in
                        24.115 KHz MRA tests, especially in Mini-MRA tests.
                        33.390 KHz
                        46.375 KHz Note: All the frequencies listed here cannot be just
                        68.635 KHz mere coincidence!
                        77.910 KHz
                        89.040 KHz Note: The ratios of these nos. to 3.71 are 2.5, 5, 6.5,
                        9, 12.5, 18.5, 21, 24, 35
                        124.850 KHz
                        Conclusions: These tests appear to indicate that sub-harmonic resonances with the fundamental
                        rhysmonic frequency of 1.855 x 10 43 Hz do result in the extraction of some energy from the intrinsic
                        energy of this Universe!
                        [Editor's note: There appears to be something fundamentally important about these frequencies. I tried to
                        find more information about Schuman resonance but haven't found a definition as yet.]
                        Return to the INE Main Page
                        Resonant Frequency Of The Aether
                        June 2, 1999.
                        Last edited by sucahyo; 01-08-2009, 07:03 AM.

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                        • Understanding Resonance

                          Understanding resaonance
                          I enjoy seeing so many experimenting and researching looking for answers, yet at the same time saddened to see so much time being spent without realizing the answers to many of your questions have been found countless times by others already. Tesla one of the greatest minds of all times was able to discover what he did only after countless hours of studying first, than applying his knowledge through experimentation to learn what wasn’t tout or in the books yet. When he came to the USA he came with the highest recommendations from his educators and found it extremely difficult to work for others who only wanted to experiment first and didn’t understand what they where doing. Personally I blame our educational system that fails to teach correctly. There are to many educators that don’t truly understand how to teach or the concepts themselves. they must teach electronics just to the subject that is in the science study book. Don’t let a bad learning experience in school from educators unable to make electronics easier for you to learn deprive you of knowing what you can now learn with the curiosity you now have. The best advise anyone can give is once you find something that you are truly interested in, go to the library and find the book at the level you understand first than work your way up from there. An hour a day in a good book will save you countless hours experimenting than still unsure of what is truly happening. For example the length and proximity of two wires or the number of turns of a coil can make Hugh differences. The switching speed of a diode or transistor can make a big difference. A few little things make big differences when you don’t understand how close you could be to seceding. Learn how to find the answers will save so time and much more rewarding in the long run. Take a look at this on line Java program below, change some of the settings and you will see just how close or far off you can get from peek resonance and never realize it. Don’t be discouraged, your ability to look and try so hard is something to be proud of. So many through the years give up not realizing how close they where. Electronics is not as hard as everyone things it is just a few basics and you will be off and running in know time. A couple of steps back in a good book and you will have a much better chance to take off running and jump much farther ahead with your research. I’m sorry for being long winded just difficult to see so many working so hard and not understanding some of the basic in electronics. I hope this little program helps to give a better understanding of how capacitors, coils, resistors and frequencies work together.

                          RCL a.c. series circuit

                          God bless and good luck

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                          • @Rectified; I can not put it better or disagree with you at all.

                            @All - What Rectified said is 'overunity' true. As you all know, between my visitors - I have gone back to basics, so I am doing full detail study of each and every component I am using; therefore my understanding of transistors, coils, EMF, BEMF has greatly increased.

                            Even I am just a student myself; I can unconditionally say: YES, get down studying these components, then go back to the experiments. Not only will you find things easier, but you will also realize when you see a truly strange behavior.

                            I know it is boring and sounds like work - but I assure you it is absolutely worth it. Though - you do not need to go to books, there are now a number of excellent websites like AllCircuits.com - with detailed documents, and a LARGE number of high education videos form various technicons and universities offering absolute free education.
                            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                            • Yeah for basic physics I would recommend Walter lewin's MIT lectures found on youtube for one.

                              YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

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                              • Rectified's words of advice

                                @ Rectified---Excellent words of advice. There was a saying posted on the wall near the blackboard of my 7th grade drafting class that read: "Learn from other's mistakes because you will not live long enough to make them all yourself."
                                Reinventing the wheel takes too long. I would rather build the car and not have to make all the mistakes. Later on in life though I found out something else that my teachers should have told me. If you lose interest in a topic you are learning and quit studying it, perhaps it might have been wiser to play around with those square and round objects that were fun and learn along the way. Building the car might take longer but you will have had a little more fun and stayed envolved. I quit electrical engineering after my second year in college----it was way too boring.

                                Lidmotor
                                Last edited by Lidmotor; 01-09-2009, 01:58 AM.

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