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  • Originally posted by Bodkins View Post
    this is were it gets difficult for me to get my point across ren
    first i need to clean this up two hv going to the bulb yes?if so one has lower sink because lower energy from battery in series ignition setup.
    i dont now if you can connect a meter to the bulb negative to see direction flow you may fry it, if too much hv. but i think its pushing out so you can connect it to anythin without light going off.
    If it was pulling in the light would go out,I think!
    one more thing i have had multipill branches to the sink!
    I also see it as a pump in fact i see all sg ssg imhotep fans tesla's radiant energy device as pumps.
    hope this helps

    So Bodkins you are saying that one of the ignition coils is a lower "sink" because it is in series with another connected to the source? Or are you saying that because the coils arent identical?

    AC says that the conductive gases can be our sink. What if there is HV coming off each coil and sinking into the light itself?

    Food for thought
    "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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    • Originally posted by ren View Post
      So Bodkins you are saying that one of the ignition coils is a lower "sink" because it is in series with another connected to the source? Or are you saying that because the coils arent identical?

      AC says that the conductive gases can be our sink. What if there is HV coming off each coil and sinking into the light itself?

      Food for thought
      AC is right no dout about that.
      but maybe because they are in series it sinks to the last in the chain aswell.
      I dont no ren!!! but im not closeing any doors on any possiblitys.


      one last video
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dkmIt6pJ2U

      i feel like ive put to many post up! and i need a rest, back in a couple of day folk
      good luck and thank you all for running with this
      Bodkins.
      Last edited by Bodkins; 09-17-2008, 02:46 PM.

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      • Rest for the wicked

        Bodkins,

        You have been doing inspired work, now take a break, you will come back to the quest with renewed energy.

        In the meanwhile, we will try to catch up, replicate, and study your findings.

        I for one, have to bury things in the back yard. Now where the hell do you buy potash?

        Great work

        Carl
        Last edited by hh1341; 09-17-2008, 03:23 PM.

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        • Originally posted by DavidE View Post
          Bodkins

          I must admit that I noticed Bedini's earth ground symbol on his simple SG circuit but at the time didn't bother exploring it's benefit.
          Hmmm... yes, I spotted the Earth/ground in Bedini's circuit as well, and like you DavidE, I also wondered why it was there?

          I think you may have found something of real value to us all.

          I will try to replicate your tests and then reply with my results, but I haven't managed to get my motor to self resonate yet... will try again.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~
          Nope, I just cannot get my motor to resonate!

          I have reversed all the wires in case polarity affected it, removed the resistor to the Base on transistor and using a 10-turn pot, have slowed the motor down to the point where I can count the pulses, but as soon as the voltage cuts out the motor... absolutely nothing!

          Can anyone advise where I am going wrong please?
          Last edited by byjoveoldchap; 09-17-2008, 03:58 PM. Reason: update
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          "I say that if a TEN year old can do this and win, what the **** is wrong with the whole World?"
          ~ John Bedini ~ 8 Mar 2000 - http://www.keelynet.com/bedmot/bedmot.htm

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          • One old chap to another

            Can anyone advise where I am going wrong please?
            byjoveoldchap,

            Disconnect the earth ground, and or return, leave the bulb string open ended, and try again.
            It worked for me.
            Looks like you have to tune it, to get it to work.

            Study Bodkins vid......it's all there.

            Carl
            Last edited by hh1341; 09-17-2008, 05:14 PM.

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            • @Ren
              Good to hear from you as well, I see you are making very good progress , I found this site a few weeks ago and it's very cool that there are so many people willing to put in the time and effort to build and experiment.

              So AC, if these "currents" are seeking a lower potential this can be in the form of surface area. The potential that builds up will seek equilibrum by sinking itself into whatever it can?
              It depends on the quality of current, you have seen only one , Take a large self-inductance and charge it with an electric current in this case we can say the energy has been stored as a magnetic field.Then when the coils current is disrupted the magnetic field collapses and an inductive discharge develops across the coil leads----which is what you have been doing. But you have "two" leads from the HV coil, one is under a compression (the negative) and can be considered a source seeking a sink, the other highly expanded (the positive) can be considered as a sink seeking a source. This is different from what we have been taught because Faraday was wrong in believing the positive terminal of a battery was a source, He was corrected but the textbooks were not which is why I use electron flow notation where the negative terminal of a battery is a source and the positive terminal is a sink. Bill Beaty has an excellent website which deals with the issues of "what" electricity is and the misconceptions we have.


              In my particular setup I have the HV center connection of one ignition coil hooked up through the light to the other HV terminal on the other coil. If the two igniton coils primaries are wired in paralell the light wont come on, however if in series I get my highest light for no extra amp draw, even a slight decrease in draw. I was wondering why this was so. Are the two coils out of phase? Or can HV sink into other HV? I note that if the Ignition coil is connected to the light and then the other terminal is sinked to the negative of pretty much anything, including a cap with nothing else on its terminals. Infact it will sink into the positive of the battery too.
              If the primaries are wired in parallel then the secondaries would have near equal potentials acting on each terminal of the light, there would be no potential difference which is a requirement for energy flow. If however the primaries are wired in series then we would have a differential time function, that is it takes time for energy to move so one secondary coil develops a potential before the other. In this case one secondary must also charge the other secondary through the light. It is important to understand the difference between an open circuit like the one wire cfl setup and what happens in a closed circuit, we are dealing with electric fields which have very different properties under different conditions as such we cannot expect the same results from open and closed circuits. I have found most every reaction can be reduced to potential difference and rate of change which is a function of time. If we look at a high potential discharge from an ignition coil and the potential difference between it and everything else then it is easy to understand why the discharge will sink or source to almost everything else but is this action charging a like condition or discharging it? If this is true then a (+) high potential discharge could flow through a cfl and charge a capacitor on its way to the (+) terminal of a battery(a charging action) as the (-) high potential flows through another cfl and a capacitor to the (-) terminal of a battery(a charging action)---equal but opposite reactions produced by a potential difference resulting in a charging condition.
              Best regards
              Last edited by Allcanadian; 09-17-2008, 05:22 PM.

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              • Mail

                Guys,

                Check your messages at the top right corner of the page.

                I checked mine and I don't have any.

                Carl

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                • Originally posted by hh1341 View Post
                  byjoveoldchap,

                  Disconnect the earth ground, and or return, leave the bulb string open ended, and try again.
                  It worked for me.
                  Looks like you have to tune it, to get it to work.

                  Study Bodkins vid......it's all there.

                  Carl
                  Thanks Carl, but I'm not as far ahead as the rest of YOU guys.

                  Us 'old folks' take a wee while to get wound up! [as you probably know ;-]

                  I don't have the bulb, earth, ground or ignition coil wired in at all yet, i am just trying to find out exactly how I can get the motor to self-resonate.

                  It sounds so simple... "increase the resistance on the Base until motor stops" and hey presto!

                  ... But unfortunately NO 'hey presto' here!
                  .
                  "I say that if a TEN year old can do this and win, what the **** is wrong with the whole World?"
                  ~ John Bedini ~ 8 Mar 2000 - http://www.keelynet.com/bedmot/bedmot.htm

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                  • Old Chap,

                    Get the cfl's and ign coil into the circuit.

                    Use a wirewound pot between base and Bedini coil. (2K)

                    You need to get a younger, smarter, chap to help you.

                    Carl
                    Last edited by hh1341; 09-18-2008, 01:17 PM.

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                    • The "hey presto" effect

                      Originally posted by byjoveoldchap View Post
                      Thanks Carl, but I'm not as far ahead as the rest of YOU guys.

                      Us 'old folks' take a wee while to get wound up! [as you probably know ;-]

                      I don't have the bulb, earth, ground or ignition coil wired in at all yet, i am just trying to find out exactly how I can get the motor to self-resonate.

                      It sounds so simple... "increase the resistance on the Base until motor stops" and hey presto!

                      ... But unfortunately NO 'hey presto' here!
                      Unfortunately I'm one of the 'old folks' to and I understand your frustration. My Fan Bedini would not self oscillate until I hooked up the ignition coil to it. It was dumb luck the way I found out. I was running the fan and hooked up the coil to it and it just stopped and went into self-oscillation.:surprise: The 25 ohm rheostat resistor that I'm using as a voltage/current control on the source battery helped matters to. Good luck.

                      Ren,
                      I hooked up my LB cap pulser straight to the source battery yesterday and it worked. I was surprised. I have always thought that you could not close the loop like that. I am going to leave the LB hooked up like that. It makes the whole thing alot easier. I set it up like you said so that I can still use the unit as a charger when I want to. The little battery pack will run the light for 4 hours now between charge ups. That is enough for me. Us 'old folks' go to bed pretty early these day.

                      Bodkins,

                      I experimented more with the earth ground yesterday and for some reason, in my circuit, I am getting high voltage all over. I took a modified CFL in my hand and could light it up by touching it to many different place in the circuit. The problem was that if I accidentally touched those places with any part of ME--I lit up!! Finally I got tired of it and just did something else for the day.

                      Cheers,

                      Lidmotor

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                      • Hi Everyone,


                        You all might want to try a bifilar on the trigger side of the circuit.It seems to work well.Sure wish I had a scope but the the slight whistling sound will have to do for now .Thx to all for the great work in this thread.


                        -Gary

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                        • Originally posted by hh1341 View Post
                          Old Chap,

                          Get the cfl's and ign coil into the circuit.

                          Use a wirewound pot between base and Bedini coil. (1K)

                          You need to get a younger, smarter, chap to help you.

                          Carl
                          ~~~~~~~~~

                          "You need to get a younger, smarter, chap to help you."

                          Oh, do we have a predjudice against women then? The first two I can agree with, but your third choice?... Naaaaaaaaaaaa!

                          So lets see if I can decipher what you are saying Carl and put it in clear Ingrish...

                          it will not self resonate unless there are other components within the circuit. ~Is this what you are trying to teach the old fella?

                          No wonder I'm having trouble

                          thanks for trying
                          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                          Lidmotor said:
                          "Unfortunately I'm one of the 'old folks' to and I understand your frustration."


                          Hey, your doing a brilliant job of showing these young 'uns where to go and you have a great passion for helping others, your videos will encourage many more to follow.

                          Of course, I do recognise ALL the folks sharing their discoveries and ideas on here, especially John Bedini and *Imhotep*who has introduced us all to a genuine, yet very simple way to find the real secret of free energy. I congratulate you all, it is a wonderful atmosphere made better by the real companionship you have for each other. Each and every one of you is a real *Star*.
                          Last edited by byjoveoldchap; 09-17-2008, 11:26 PM.
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                          "I say that if a TEN year old can do this and win, what the **** is wrong with the whole World?"
                          ~ John Bedini ~ 8 Mar 2000 - http://www.keelynet.com/bedmot/bedmot.htm

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                          • Hmmm...

                            Allcanadian

                            When you consider the qualities of the current utilized it should become obvious that the energy transfer is based on "surface area"---capacitance.
                            I really like what you are saying here, and I believe it may be a catalyst force for transference of charge. So that this may be brought down to a level that I can experimentally confirm... what fundamental conditions would determine more or less capacitance (aside from an easy reference like a fat person versus skinny person ).

                            A five foot coil of wire versus twenty five feet?
                            A grapefruit versus a lemon?
                            Or maybe even a smaller capacitor versus a larger one?

                            The "surface area" reference has me flummoxed.

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                            • "You need to get a younger, smarter, chap to help you."

                              Oh, do we have a predjudice against women then? The first two I can agree with, but your third choice?... Naaaaaaaaaaaa!

                              OK OK........

                              ............Younger, smarter, PERSON, then.

                              See, that proves it.........I'm so old I can't even be politically correct.

                              By all means, yes, the fair sex. I have no resistance to, and a capacitance for, women.


                              Carl
                              Last edited by hh1341; 09-18-2008, 04:02 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by byjoveoldchap View Post
                                ~~~~~~~~~

                                "You need to get a younger, smarter, chap to help you."

                                Oh, do we have a predjudice against women then? The first two I can agree with, but your third choice?... Naaaaaaaaaaaa!

                                So lets see if I can decipher what you are saying Carl and put it in clear Ingrish...

                                it will not self resonate unless there are other components within the circuit. ~Is this what you are trying to teach the old fella?

                                No wonder I'm having trouble


                                thanks for trying
                                ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                                Lidmotor said:
                                "Unfortunately I'm one of the 'old folks' to and I understand your frustration."


                                Hey, your doing a brilliant job of showing these young 'uns where to go and you have a great passion for helping others, your videos will encourage many more to follow.

                                Of course, I do recognise ALL the folks sharing their discoveries and ideas on here, especially John Bedini and *Imhotep*who has introduced us all to a genuine, yet very simple way to find the real secret of free energy. I congratulate you all, it is a wonderful atmosphere made better by the real companionship you have for each other. Each and every one of you is a real *Star*.

                                No mate, you can get it to self resonate without the other components too. Probably easier with them in though. Does your fan run with a Bedini circuit, that is, charging on the back end?
                                "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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