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  • Difference between CFL's

    Yesterday I've uploaded the pic with circle CFL, the rotor spining well, but is strange, I've changed the circle CFL by one helicoidal, bright good but rotor get stop, What is the difference?
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    • So far working on the solid state version one thing i have discovered and wanted to tell everyone was i have been powering it with a current limiting power supply. At about 10 volts. the reason I am posting this is because of lidmotors comment about transistors and thats possibly why he is stressing to balance between the adjustment potentiometers he has, it helps limit the current. so as people are experimenting with the solid state version you might want to start with a current limited variable power supply then move to the smaller batteries as lidmotor has done. I dont know if anyone else is having a heat problem or burning up transistors but without current limiting and fine adjustments like lidmotors you do run the risk of over heating components please keep that in mind and measure heat. As i have been taking mine to the limits of the light output, i have built up my own pile of over heated components. But the solid state version has had some good success as long as you get that current limited through theremarts bulb and/or lidmotors rheostat and base potentiometer (wire wound). just thought i would mention that as i am sure other people are possibly trying the solid state version.
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      • Originally posted by patmac View Post
        Yesterday I've uploaded the pic with circle CFL, the rotor spining well, but is strange, I've changed the circle CFL by one helicoidal, bright good but rotor get stop, What is the difference?
        I have found through studying different bulbs that there is a vast difference in these bulbs. Even in the circular bulbs and the helical and the straight bulbs. Some are specifically made for magnetic ballasts. And some are made for electronic ballasts. The older version of fluorescent bulbs are all magnetic ballast bulbs. While the newer ones are electronic ballast. Not that you cant run the newer bulbs on magnetic ballast because we all have been doing that, but you will get different results from different bulbs. I have run some of my experiments through only one wire or one pin, on each side of the tube. When I do that it doesnt matter about the filament design whether they were designed for the magnetic ballast or the electronic. Keep that in mind when you are experimenting, different bulbs will result in different results.


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        • Imhotep Lite Solid State fan scopeshots

          Hi All
          Another video for the scopeshot and a interseting effect at high frequescy.
          Note. dont need to take scope off for the neo to light up had a just bad conection .

          Enjoy

          YouTube - Imhotep Lite Solid State fan scopeshots

          Imhotep Lite Solid State fan scopeshots - EnergeticTube.com*-*Where technology goes LIVE!

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          • Originally posted by Lidmotor View Post
            Hey guys I blink and this thing has morphed into another more interesting direction . Imhotep and Peter you should be very happy with all the effort that is going into this and the terrific ideas that people are coming up with. Ren I think that you have the best idea yet by combining the solid state oscillator circuit and the lighting circuit into a single one. Anyway here is a video of the LB circuit diagram and explanation of how it all goes together.
            YouTube - Imhotep Lite--Lidmotor LB Circuit

            Cheers,

            Lidmotor
            Lidmotor but is it possible to put up a photo of the circuit find it hard to see what going where.
            Sorry for being a pain

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            • Bedini Solid State oscillator with adjustable cap pulser recovery. Got rid of the homemade secondary, didnt light as bright and would switch off when the cap pulsed. Good for a safety light as its constantly blinking but not much else.

              Shown here running on a 12v 12 amp hour @ 300-350ma. Charging 12v 14 amp hour (parallel pair of 7 amp hours).

              Charges really well, light is useable. Ignition coil doesnt have the cap across it yet, may or may not make a difference. I will do a vid and draw a schematic up soon.

              Well done guys
              Last edited by ren; 07-18-2009, 08:26 AM.
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              • Lidmotor LB circuit photo

                Originally posted by Bodkins View Post
                Lidmotor but is it possible to put up a photo of the circuit find it hard to see what going where.
                Sorry for being a pain
                Well I took a picture of the circuit drawing and downloaded it into my documents but I can't figure out how to insert it here. HELP!! . I guess some of the easiest things in life can be very hard if you don't know the tricks. I'll get it posted ASAP as soon as someone tells me how. Thanks

                Lidmotor ------ OK got I it! Thanks Ren. Great job with the solid state . You will have to show us how the cap pulser works.
                Last edited by Lidmotor; 10-22-2008, 01:28 AM.

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                • Lidmotor, you should see a little button at the bottom called "manage attachments" the rest is self explainatory.

                  Bodkins, once you have the SS coil oscillating and charging (you can hook it up Bedini SG style to start with, doesnt have to be cap pulser) all you need to do is hook the iginition coil primary up in parallel to the power winding. That means one end to the positive of source and the other end to the collector of the transistor. You dont even need a diode off the Ignition coil because there is one off the collector. Light goes to the HV of the ignition coil.
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                  • Originally posted by ren View Post
                    Lidmotor, you should see a little button at the bottom called "manage attachments" the rest is self explainatory.

                    Bodkins, once you have the SS coil oscillating and charging (you can hook it up Bedini SG style to start with, doesnt have to be cap pulser) all you need to do is hook the iginition coil primary up in parallel to the power winding. That means one end to the positive of source and the other end to the collector of the transistor. You dont even need a diode off the Ignition coil because there is one off the collector. Light goes to the HV of the ignition coil.
                    Im running it parallel with a oscillating fan at the moment. my understanding was that the pulse charge is better! is that the case?



                    Lidmotor cheers will start workin on it

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                    • Originally posted by Bodkins View Post
                      Hi All
                      Another video for the scopeshot and a interseting effect at high frequescy.
                      Note. dont need to take scope off for the neo to light up had a just bad conection .

                      Enjoy

                      YouTube - Imhotep Lite Solid State fan scopeshots

                      Imhotep Lite Solid State fan scopeshots - EnergeticTube.com*-*Where technology goes LIVE!
                      you are using the fan as your pulse ? interesting arrangement ,cool effects
                      “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”

                      Nikola Tesla

                      http://www.imhotepslab.com

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                      • Originally posted by ren View Post
                        Bedini Solid State oscillator with adjustable cap pulser recovery. Got rid of the homemade secondary, didnt light as bright and would switch off when the cap pulsed. Good for a safety light as its constantly blinking but not much else.

                        Shown here running on a 12v 12 amp hour @ 300-350ma. Charging 12v 14 amp hour (parallel pair of 7 amp hours).

                        Charges really well, light is useable. Ignition coil doesnt have the cap across it yet, may or may not make a difference. I will do a vid and draw a schematic up soon.

                        Well done guys
                        love the circuit great job !!
                        “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”

                        Nikola Tesla

                        http://www.imhotepslab.com

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                        • Originally posted by Lidmotor View Post
                          Well I took a picture of the circuit drawing and downloaded it into my documents but I can't figure out how to insert it here. HELP!! . I guess some of the easiest things in life can be very hard if you don't know the tricks. I'll get it posted ASAP as soon as someone tells me how. Thanks

                          Lidmotor ------ OK got I it! Thanks Ren. Great job with the solid state . You will have to show us how the cap pulser works.
                          been busy replicating all versions and am getting ready to box it up
                          “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.”

                          Nikola Tesla

                          http://www.imhotepslab.com

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                          • Schematic

                            here is the schematic I am using. Some parts are left out on the 555, you have to do your homework if you want them. Start here -> http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post20480

                            Plenty of other places to go, I am not going to go through cap pulsing setups here so the thread doesnt get cluttered. Post in the other one above if you need a hand with the cap pulsing.

                            All components can be changed or altered, but please note it IS John Bedinis schematic and is copyrighted/patented etc.

                            The ignition coil is paralleled to the power coil of the oscillator, no cap across it, doesnt work for me if there is.

                            Can use 2n3440 or mje340 or 2n3584 or any small npn rated for high voltage probably.

                            Try different cap sizes if you like, just make sure if they are low uF that they are HV. Nothing under 50v if smaller than 10000uF.

                            In my opinion a smaller transistor for the main oscillator works better. JB suggests the BD234c (?) I have used an MJL21194, but a mj3055 or 2n3055 would work, probably even better.

                            Bridge needs to be HV too, use 4 1n4007's, its alot cheaper.
                            Last edited by ren; 07-18-2009, 08:26 AM.
                            "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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                            • Originally posted by **~Imhotep~** View Post
                              you are using the fan as your pulse ? interesting arrangement ,cool effects
                              The setup is same as last video the fan oscillating is not moving the iginition coil primary up in parallel to the power + winding the negative is on the collector.
                              will be trying to making a Bedini Solid State oscillator from the fan coil, air core with lidmotor setup.
                              Would like to run it from 9v rechargeables which i can charge from a 24v imhotep fan setup. three battery sets in total. need to do some test to see if the ignition coil will run well on 18volt the fan coil is 24v anyway.

                              i think The reason for the brightness even though your amps are going down is because of me hitting resonance.
                              Resonance is the most efficient freq. to operate.
                              Last edited by Bodkins; 08-31-2008, 09:51 AM.

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                              • [QUOTE=ren;28002]here is the schematic I am using. Some parts are left out on the 555, you have to do your homework if you want them. Start here -> http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post20480

                                Plenty of other places to go, I am not going to go through cap pulsing setups here so the thread doesnt get cluttered. Post in the other one above if you need a hand with the cap pulsing.

                                really Sorry Ren a need to be more focused in my approach to this tread.

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