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  • Ren should be a deity

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    • the cap is 200v 4.7uf

      ren i dont have 100ohms resistor on it i have 4.7k pot and a 1kpot.

      carl the 555 thing i will try and get back to it one day.
      the one i have has a ajustible resistor on so i can change freq. the problem was the duty cycle it slides, it needs 50/50
      if you now the freq. you can make im sure.


      the test points are the ignition coil + and - good luck
      I really hope someone can replicate the sink effect We need someone to do it,dont now if there is anymore info i can put up to help, the fan is not imhotep style its normal coil whindings 24volt not the 4poles
      YouTube - Imhotep Lite Solid State fan
      i get hold of the negative bulb and both light go up i didnt really see it at the time. Follow the green and black wire to the ignition coil. i have a spare 24volt fan?
      Last edited by Bodkins; 09-19-2008, 05:41 PM.

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      • Trace

        Here is a scope shot with the Bedini fan running on 24 volts with 5K resistance. I'll try to up the resister and see if I can get her to go SS.

        Carl

        24 volt trece 8000 rpm.jpg

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        • Originally posted by hh1341 View Post
          Here is a scope shot with the Bedini fan running on 24 volts with 5K resistance. I'll try to up the resister and see if I can get her to go SS.

          Carl

          [ATTACH]1193[/ATTACH]
          just ad the ignition coil and it gos SS
          scope Looks like some BUD in there, try the light test, more light when you touch it.
          or try dropping down too 12v and repeat light test look for Buds, see if they change when you touch the Light if they do your affecting the energy movement.
          Last edited by Bodkins; 09-19-2008, 06:45 PM.

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          • Safety Question?

            Bodkins

            Any concerns for x-rays produced by high voltage through vacuum tubes?

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            • Im not the person to ask David can anyone esle help with this?

              I had all the kids i can take anyway

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              • Gas Plasma Flourescents

                Bodkins

                I found this quote while researching what makes plasma lighting work and thought that there might be a nugget of information that may shed some light on your current research.

                "The resistance of your fluorescent lamp is not fixed, it depends on the current carried: the greater the current, the smaller the resistance. Put in other words, the plasma is a greedy conductor of electricity. Suppose it has just enough free electrons to get a current started. The current causes ions and electrons to move rapidly and to collide violently, and those collisions strip additional electrons off atoms of the gas. Additional electrons increase the current, causing more collisions and producing still more electrons, which create more current, more and still more... In this way, if a fluorescent lamp were directly connected to the power lines, unprotected, its current would rapidly grow until something gave way. The tube might heat up and explode, the wiring might melt... or more likely, the fuse or circuit breaker which protect the fixture would stop the current."

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                • Connected

                  Bodkins,

                  2 coils where connected to 4 sixty watt helicoil lights driven directly by the output of my fan energizer. On 24 volts it would not resonate and was going twice as fast (8000 rpm), in that scope shot.

                  Had the coils hooked back to back,(+/-/-/+) and was feeding the output to either end of the 4 bulb string. Excess power was lighting the neon.

                  It resonates fine on 12 volts. Going to try more resistance (over 5K) to get SS on 24 volts.

                  Carl
                  Last edited by hh1341; 09-19-2008, 10:36 PM.

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                  • Sometimes I hate living on the other side of the world to most of you, all the discussions happen when Im sleeping Makes for interesting reading when I wake up.

                    @Bodkins/Jove. The fixed resistor is there to make sure the resistance can never be nothing. Bodkins in your setup with two pots you have to be careful not to turn both pots to no resistance. Even a 10 ohm resistor is better than nothing. You should be monitoring amp draw and you will see it rise as the resistance lessens. But if there is no safety buffer you could accidently pump alot of current into the base of the transistor. Makes for a very short life. On my window motor I have 100ohm 5watt resistors on the trigger. They soak up any heat that may be present at higher voltages.

                    lol @ Carl. Hydro is a whole different ball park mate, but I know how you feel. Its inspiring to read those doc's. Be aware of safety measure that should be present in hydo research.

                    @ Bodkins. Ive been filling a microwave hv cap off the light this morning. I cant get accurate readings however on my DVM. Theres a bang/spark when its shorted so I know its working. At some resistance settings the cap appears to flip its polarity and the DVM goes well into the negative. Its wierd.
                    "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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                    • YouTube - IMHOTEP BEDINI OSCILLATOR LITE CIRCUIT

                      My Replication so far

                      I am a novice. If i can build it anyone can with enough time and patience.

                      Cheers

                      Nat

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                      • Bodkins cap charging replication

                        Bodins,

                        Great news today. I managed to get results off the earth ground circuit like what you have been seeing. I don't know if what I did is really what you did, but I sure liked the results. I put a 1300uf 100volt cap in the earth ground circuit with diodes and just kept moving wires and dials around until PRESTO!!! -the amps went to 150milli, the bulbs stayed bright, and the cap volts started going up. I'm looking at the circuit diagram right now and shaking my head. The cap is in Series!! with diodes on both ends and it charged up. Somehow it is being pumped by the circuit. What are we going to do with all this extra energy!!

                        Here is the video-- I only got shocked once making it

                        YouTube - Bodkins Experiment Replication -- Charging a capacitor

                        Cheers,

                        Lidmotor
                        Last edited by Lidmotor; 09-20-2008, 02:23 AM.

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                        • " its frequency is too high to be audible"

                          Originally posted by ren View Post
                          Solidstate can be trickey to start sometimes. Hook everything up except one of the leads to the run battery. Make sure you have a amp gauge in the circuit so you know if it is drawing anything when you connect the last lead. It could be going solidstate and you dont even know it because its frequency is too high to be audible.
                          Well, I can't believe it Ren!

                          Whether this was by accident, providence or whatever, I finally found it.

                          As I was connecting the run battery tonight, I thought I had a short somewhere as the meter was drawing current and the fan was 'twitching' every time I connected the 2nd wire. I was convinced I had a short somewhere.

                          After checking it and trying again, it was still doing it. "Have I blown the tranny again?", I wondered. At some stage I heard a very faint, but high pitched whine. Looking at the meter I saw the voltage on the charge battery increase slightly, I adjusted the pot and it stopped. Reset it and tried again, YES! This is exactly what Ren said.

                          So I have just been charging the battery using only 3mA and the voltage increases 0.01 volt, every 42 seconds. Amazing!


                          Thanks Ren, I have learned something very interesting here.
                          Last edited by byjoveoldchap; 09-20-2008, 02:08 AM.
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                          "I say that if a TEN year old can do this and win, what the **** is wrong with the whole World?"
                          ~ John Bedini ~ 8 Mar 2000 - http://www.keelynet.com/bedmot/bedmot.htm

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                          • "If i can build it anyone can with enough time and patience."

                            Originally posted by nat1971a View Post
                            YouTube - IMHOTEP BEDINI OSCILLATOR LITE CIRCUIT

                            My Replication so far

                            I am a novice. If i can build it anyone can with enough time and patience.

                            Cheers

                            Nat

                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                            Congratulations Nat, you deserve success! Well done.
                            .
                            "I say that if a TEN year old can do this and win, what the **** is wrong with the whole World?"
                            ~ John Bedini ~ 8 Mar 2000 - http://www.keelynet.com/bedmot/bedmot.htm

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                            • Thanks Byjoveoldchap.

                              Also

                              have been putting a neon bulb on most places (even on the cfls) and it lights up.....when i hold one end of it.


                              even a small pancake coil not attached to anything near the transistor will light up

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                              • Originally posted by byjoveoldchap View Post
                                Well, I can't believe it Ren!

                                Whether this was by accident, providence or whatever, I finally found it.

                                As I was connecting the run battery tonight, I thought I had a short somewhere as the meter was drawing current and the fan was 'twitching' every time I connected the 2nd wire. I was convinced I had a short somewhere.

                                After checking it and trying again, it was still doing it. "Have I blown the tranny again?", I wondered. At some stage I heard a very faint, but high pitched whine. Looking at the meter I saw the voltage on the charge battery increase slightly, I adjusted the pot and it stopped. Reset it and tried again, YES! This is exactly what Ren said.

                                So I have just been charging the battery using only 3mA and the voltage increases 0.01 volt, every 42 seconds. Amazing!


                                Thanks Ren, I have learned something very interesting here.

                                Good work mate. and you too Nat. Its a good feeling of accomplishment when it gets up and running

                                Just to add something regarding the amp draw. It is unlikely that it is drawing 3 ma, possible, but unlikely. How are you measuring it? On a DMM (digital multimeter) on the 10 amp setting that most of them have anything under 1 is expressed as 0. whatever. 0.3 is actually 300ma. 3 milliamps wouldnt even register on the 10 am setting as it only goes to 2 decimal places on most. So just be sure you are measuring it correctly 300ma is right in the ball park for the solid states of this size, Id assume it is this, especially since it seems to be charging well too.
                                "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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