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  • Bodkins

    I have just one question for you today. Do you see compelling shapes of phenomena floating in your cereal bowl in the morning?

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    • Originally posted by DavidE View Post
      Bodkins

      I have just one question for you today. Do you see compelling shapes of phenomena floating in your cereal bowl in the morning?

      Had a grapefruit because its a sphere
      @lidmotor my veiws on cap charging
      YouTube - Bodkins 11 BEDINI IMHOTEP TESLA

      AC thanks for the info will study it

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      • Bring on the AMPS

        Bring on the AMPS!!!

        ON LIGHT AND OTHER HIGH FREQUENCY PHENOMENA*

        "If I connect an insulated metal plate P, Fig. 11, to one of the terminals T of the induction coil by means of a wire, though this plate be verv well insulated, a current passes through the wire when the coil is set to work. First I wish to give you evidence that there is a current passing through the connecting wire. An obvious way of demonstrating this is to insert between the terminal of the coil and the insulated plate a very thin platinum or german silver wire w and bring the latter to incandescence or fusion by the current. This requires a rather large plate of else current impulses of very high potential and frequency. Another way is to take a coil C, Fig. 11, containing many turns of thin insulated wire and to insert the same in the path of the current to the plate. When I connect one of the ends of the coil to the wire leading to another insulated plate P1, and its other end to the terminal T1 of the induction coil, and set the latter to work, a current passes through the inserted coil C and the existence of the current may be made manifest in various ways. For instance, I insert an iron core i within the coil. The current being one of very high frequency, will, if it be of some strength, soon bring the iron core to a noticeably higher temperature, as the hysteresis and current losses are great with such high frequencies"

        In summary
        large insulated plate or/and higher voltage

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        • What shape is your phenomenon?

          Originally posted by Bodkins View Post
          Had a grapefruit because its a sphere
          @lidmotor my veiws on cap charging
          YouTube - Bodkins 11 BEDINI IMHOTEP TESLA

          AC thanks for the info will study it
          I had a pear for breakfast. A million years ago I studied calculus and the mathematical formulas for these shapes and ways to calculate volumes and other properties. I found the study boring and went off in other directions. Now I fiddle around with batteries and light bulbs on my table and have much more fun.
          Anyway, from what you guys are saying, it seems that we need to try to not fight this energy but let it do its thing. Let it build up, let it go into something, and then let it build up again. Not look at it as a "current" at all.
          Looks to me like a John Bedini cap pulser using an optoisolator might work. The problem with that is it draws 30 milliamps of "current" to run it.
          I'm about to ready to let my little "Blue Plate" drive a Neon bulb and let it go at that. Nat, I think that you are right about surface area of the antenna. Bigger is better. I did try the pie tin upside down on the LB and the energy capture was less.

          Cheers,

          Lidmotor

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          • Slinky as an Antenna

            Originally posted by eastcoastwilly View Post
            Hi Lidmotor,
            Manyany people who are into listening to Shortwave Radio use a Slinky as an antenna to improve reception.

            The antenna picks up frequencies in the upside of 7 Mhz,

            Good Luck and keep up the great work everyone !!

            Will
            Great piece of information eastcoastwilly and it sounds very impressive!...

            "Compared with a Hustler Mobile whip, its performance and bandwidth were outstanding."
            .
            "I say that if a TEN year old can do this and win, what the **** is wrong with the whole World?"
            ~ John Bedini ~ 8 Mar 2000 - http://www.keelynet.com/bedmot/bedmot.htm

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            • ~ Saint Lid ? ~

              Originally posted by Lidmotor View Post

              Bodkins when I got done with the experiment and I was putting things away I noticed that I could make the 2 CFL lights come on by touching them.

              Lidmotor
              Wow... it's a miracle!

              Nat is going to light up the sky at night and now Lidmotor has become a Saint

              Bodkins - "Had a grapefruit because its a sphere" - now thats what I call devotion to the subject in hand.
              By the way, is your toilet still working? ;-)
              Last edited by byjoveoldchap; 10-06-2008, 11:35 PM.
              .
              "I say that if a TEN year old can do this and win, what the **** is wrong with the whole World?"
              ~ John Bedini ~ 8 Mar 2000 - http://www.keelynet.com/bedmot/bedmot.htm

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              • ~ Using POTENTIAL ONLY------- NO current..! ~

                Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post

                I believe this process is what many inventors have refered to as using potential only ------- no current as current will only discharge the source of the potential.

                Regards
                AC
                Very interesting description 'Allcanadian', thankyou!

                As I understand it, the above is clearly stated as being the 'key' or 'secret' to virtually all 'free energy' devices.

                Here is how Thomas Bearden described it in his book,
                Toward a New Electromagetics Part 4 ~ 1983
                [Note: some text removed for clarity, please see link for full text]

                "First, we add an “energizer” to the circuit. This device makes the del-phi waves we will utilize, but does NOT make currents of electron masses.

                (The Energizer is a unit that does not develope current, only potential charge, and no drag on the DC motor.)

                Now we add a switching device, called a controller, which breaks up power to the motor in pulses. During one pulse, the battery is connected and furnishes power to the motor; during the succeeding pulse, the battery is disconnected completely from the motor and the output from the energizer is applied across the terminals of the battery.

                ... Specifically, we are NOT furnishing ordinary current to the battery, and we are not doing work on it from the energizer.

                If things are built properly, the battery can be made to more than recover its charge during this pulse cycle.

                heres the crunch bit...

                "The Energizer is a unit that does not develope current, only potential charge, and no drag on the DC motor."

                (c) By Thomas E Bearden 1983
                Welcome to Bedini Technology

                Now think hard on this 'Saint Lid'...
                - you have got potential in your NEW Energiser
                - you do not want any current.
                From reading the above, somehow you need a switch or oscillator? to connect your energiser to a battery.
                The battery will, as Bedini states, transduce the potential and convert it inside the battery.

                Hope this helps?
                .
                "I say that if a TEN year old can do this and win, what the **** is wrong with the whole World?"
                ~ John Bedini ~ 8 Mar 2000 - http://www.keelynet.com/bedmot/bedmot.htm

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                • Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
                  I made this post at OU.com (The Tesla project)a while ago and thought it might help explain the nature of the energy you are dealing with.
                  @All
                  I think there are many people here who have built and experimented with tesla's Patent 568177 and most if not all have been left with one single question-----Why? What is the purpose? They might say "I have currents of high potential and frequence now what?". My understanding came only after I understood the nature of what I was dealing with, that is what qualities does this current have in relation to other currents. I think I outlined the qualities well enough in my last post and I think we should be familiar with Tesla's ozone patent so we will take the next step ---- utilization of the currents in the secondaries.
                  To take the next step we need to put aside EM induction and concentrate on Electrostatic Induction. Here is a good link to the general process-----http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_induction . At this link there is a picture of an electroscope which I have posted here, a (+) charged wand is brought near the electroscope charging the upper conductor ( - )negative. Next a potential difference(charge seperation) occurs in the electroscope conductor, if the (+) foil leaves inside the electroscope are grounded then the electroscope conductor could be said to have a "net" negative charge, making the wand and electroscope a capacitor. I see this a little different, the (+) charged wand produces a ( - )negative field around itself as all forces must balance, the electroscope enters the negative field and is charged negatively producing the charge seperation.
                  In the circuit below (lower right) we have Tesla's Patent 568177, the secondaries L2 have high potential/high frequency currents alternating, that is one end of the secondaries will be charged positive then negative and back to positive repeatedly at a high frequency and high potential. In the one instance shown, one end of the secondaries L2 is positive, I see this positive end as expanded electrons. The capacitor C2 is connected to the positive secondary L2, the diode only allows potential to flow in one direction so the positive plate of C2 will never be charged negative. I am using electron flow notation (negative flows to positive) so all of this may seem confusing, think of negative as tightly packed electrons(compressed) and positive as loosely packed electrons(expanded)---- each flows to the other equally. Now think of the electroscope, the positive plate of C2 is the wand and the negative plate of C2 is the top of the electroscope. In order for the forces to balance in C2 electrons must flow through ground through the battery (B2) charging it and into the negative plate of C2, the battery (B2)charges because its potential is 12 volts and the potential at C2 is thousands of volts. If there was no ground you would only have a charge seperation in the circuit but you would not have a "net" charge on the negative plate of C2, just like in the electroscope example. We should understand that the only current flow is from ground to the negative plate of C2, the positive plate of C2 has no current it has a "static" charge not unlike a statically charged balloon might have. When the capacitor C2 has equalized its charge on both plates the DPDT relay switches over and the high potential on C2 charges the battery (B2) again . L2 must then recharge the positive plate of C2 with potential. The battery has been charged twice and all you have done is charge one plate of a capacitor on C2. You may have figured out that there could be many capacitors at the position where capacitor C2 is as well the circuit outlined by the red box could be replicated many times over on one end of the secondary L2. The secondary L2 also has two ends , each having a changing potential as such both ends can be utilized. I believe this process is what many inventors have refered to as using potential only, no current as current will only discharge the source of the potential. There is also an issue of electrical inertia in the battery (B2) which must be considered in the timing of this circuit, but things get a little complicated so there is no need to confuse the issue at this point. This is the only explanation I have for what I have seen in my circuits, the battery B2 charges and is equalized periodically with the other battery B1 and both charge.
                  Regards
                  AC

                  Gents if you are wise you will study this patent and its components. As AC has said to me before it is not necessarily an ozone generator, though that can be its purpose if so desired. There is something much more important to learn from it.
                  "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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                  • Lindemann calls it an "Electro Radiant Transceiver". Just watched his film
                    Free Energy Secrets from Cold Electricity. Great film. We're all Tesla's Students.
                    SM
                    Last edited by sirmikey1; 10-07-2008, 04:11 AM.

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                    • PF CFL at local store

                      All these talks must have gotten the the manufactures attention. I was at the local store today buying stuff and notice that all the new CFL's they were selling has PF values printed right on them. It was listed as PF > 0.90, now I know that this is a small step, but at least it is a start and perhaps it all started because of Imhotep's and Peter's comments here that got it going.

                      Anyway, I bought some and once I get my kill-a-watt meter, I will give it a test to see.

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                      • Originally posted by kniteowl View Post
                        All these talks must have gotten the the manufactures attention. I was at the local store today buying stuff and notice that all the new CFL's they were selling has PF values printed right on them. It was listed as PF > 0.90, now I know that this is a small step, but at least it is a start and perhaps it all started because of Imhotep's and Peter's comments here that got it going.

                        Anyway, I bought some and once I get my kill-a-watt meter, I will give it a test to see.
                        Btw, that kill-a-watt gizmo is a real handy device. I have two of them, one each in my service vans. Its sure easy to check out a refrigerator, just plug it in and you can see the compressor amps, and checking the defrost heater. Saves a lot of time not having to manualy checking for volts and amps.

                        Roy

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                        • I must say iam so glad i open this door

                          WOW this is getting DEEP [ The Tesla project ] Erfinde reply 2
                          just hope theres still enough time to come to this kind of understanding

                          i truely like to Thank each and every one for there time . to share os much info . thx
                          Allcanadian I made this post at OU.com (The Tesla project)a while ago and thought it might help explain the nature of the energy you are dealing with.
                          Ren Gents if you are wise you will study this patent and its components. As AC has said to me before it is not necessarily an ozone generator, though that can be its purpose if so desired. There is something much more important to learn from it.
                          Last edited by carmine; 10-08-2008, 07:27 AM. Reason: too make this reply more clear

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                          • Bodkins

                            Or whomever can produce this data...

                            Just a couple of thoughts for you. I was watching a Borderlands Tesla video the other night and they did a demonstration to confirm that a "radiant" light source attracted a strip of hanging copper toward the bulb when on and in proximity. Can you experimentally try that and report? It would seem to confirm experimentally what type of energy your tapping.

                            Secondly, I was reading a Bedini Patent and it talks about the capacity of using the pulse charger to "heat an element" I am assuming that he meant a resistence type element. It would seem that between your spiral bulbs may be a good place to try that and report what you find if you can.

                            I do believe that these experimental trials are all aimed at better understanding the form of energy that is being collected, then considering how it might be put to practical use.

                            Thanks. You guys are awesome.

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                            • Originally posted by carmine View Post
                              WOW this is getting DEEP [ The Tesla project ] Erfinde reply 2
                              just hope theres still enough time to come to this kind of understanding

                              i truely like to Thank each and every one for there time . to share os much info . thx
                              wheres the erfinder2 reply, please?
                              Flickr photosets (My visits to the Nikola Tesla&Viktor Schauberger Museums, Steorn Waterways 2009 Orbo demonstration, Earthship Brighton, and also Walter Russell images)
                              My electronic music

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                              • Originally posted by DavidE View Post
                                Bodkins

                                Or whomever can produce this data...

                                Just a couple of thoughts for you. I was watching a Borderlands Tesla video the other night and they did a demonstration to confirm that a "radiant" light source attracted a strip of hanging copper toward the bulb when on and in proximity. Can you experimentally try that and report? It would seem to confirm experimentally what type of energy your tapping.

                                Secondly, I was reading a Bedini Patent and it talks about the capacity of using the pulse charger to "heat an element" I am assuming that he meant a resistence type element. It would seem that between your spiral bulbs may be a good place to try that and report what you find if you can.

                                I do believe that these experimental trials are all aimed at better understanding the form of energy that is being collected, then considering how it might be put to practical use.

                                Thanks. You guys are awesome.

                                Thi nking
                                Back to sleepless nights

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