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  • Toroid on probe

    Originally posted by jibbguy View Post
    Sounds like you are doing some very nice work , Aromaz

    If i could inject an aside: Regarding your idea of the coil at the scope probe, this reminds me of an old trick we used to use to check the RF radiation of devices (quickly testing the effectiveness of shielding schemes without an expensive RF meter or having to go into the Faraday cage, which was a pain):

    Simply clip the ground of the scope probe to the tip; creating a "loop", and wave it slowly around / near the device. We used to see quite graphically how RF would "hover" over metallic surfaces and not be shunted to Earth Ground; which is a pretty strange effect when you think about it
    Amazing how a simple thing like this can fail to penetrate my old brains.
    I did just this, but then added the toroid between the probe and earth!

    Amazing how the energy is flowing around. Getting all sorts of readings. Away form the coil - 3m, it all goes quet and just little noise on min scale.
    Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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    • Safe the desert trip

      Originally posted by Lidmotor View Post
      Aromaz-- Sorry that I mispronounce your name. It is Aroma-zzzz. I wish that I could get more ZZZZZs. This stuff keeps me awake too. Thanks again for getting envolved with this and sharing.
      I did have the 2n2222 wired correctly and the package label was wrong. A warning to others who may buy the Radio Shack package of (15) assorted 2n2222 "like" transistors.
      Something very strange is going on with this circuit. I was getting mild shocks at places in the circuit way up stream where there shouldn't be any HV. This was happening before when I was using the Bedini fan circuit. Aromaz when you mentioned the low amp draw and the battery voltages climbing a light went on in my brain. Last night I ran the system a long time, it was stone cold, and the analogue amp meter was hardly registering anything. The coil was humming along and the light was on. If I touched the rehostat leads at the source battery I got a mild shock. In my particular case I may be getting energy from the house somehow from that ground lead. I hope not. I may have to drive out to the desert and run the experiment again.
      Lidmotor, desert will be good. Maybe I can save you that. I took it out to my farm last night, new house, new 250cm earth probe (only hammered down 8 days ago). In all I actually had more power and stronger lights. I will put that down to the earht probe since my lab is only using the buildings frame as earth. I set system up about 100m from nearest building and any house wires.

      Forgot to take multi meter and camera. There is unlikely any stray voltages there bare those we will find on all land. Farm is about 3 km from beach, nearest high tention wires are more than 1.5 km away, nearest cellphone tower is 2.8km.
      Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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      • Guys, Gene an engineer/friend i know offered some comments on Lid's video and the effect. Thanks to Gene.

        Ash


        "If you check out the jln pages there is a circuit shown using the 2n2222
        transistor which shows how "negative resistance" occurs in that particular tiny transistor.

        The schematic referenced at the jpg doesn't show the base of the 2n2222
        transistor being connected to the positive side of the battery. The vid tho,
        shows a 5megohm pot on the base of the 2n2222 connected to the positive of the battery.

        Just as a "reference" those small CFL's have a "standard rated" draw of 270mA at 120volts. (at least on the several I have that look just like that.) He's driving the lamp as some 200-300mA per his comments on the video, tho he notes also that the light brightens and the current draw decreases somewhat when he connects the HV to an earth ground. If he had a better analog ammeter he could better tell what "real" effect is being seen... usually at the bottom end of an ammeters reading they are pretty inaccurate.

        Its interesting but doesn't seem to be adjusting the "real draw" much from the
        "normal draw" of just plugging that cfl into a lamp socket off the mains. He
        should probably get a scope to connect to it as well so he can see whats going on in the Low Volts side.

        Regards,
        Gene"

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        • Thank you

          @Bodkins
          Thanks very much for your video's and input.

          You made my day; second person to duplicate and verify. Now I feel more confident since this is not a regional fluke.

          How exactly this is working and where all that light power comes from I do not know. Fact is that it is using a very tiny amount form the battery to operate. My earth connection in the lab is not really suitable, but as in previous post: out on the farm it did make much more light.

          on this stage only one remark: Add more lights.
          This is a real phenomena - the more lights the lower the amp draw.

          I plan and hope to have some 18 hours in the lab today.
          Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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          • @ashtweth

            I think it is one of YOUR YouTube videos re. Bedini circuit that was actually the switch that got me into all this electronics! You stood with camera outside and made some 360 turns while talking. Up to that stage I was trying in vain to get magnetic motor only running.

            Thanks for that and this report. I would really like to understand the basics of this thing because then we can move on to expand and upscale.

            I did use both a small scale mAmp analog as well as digital meter and they correspond with each other. Drawing 136 mA with one light is acceptable, but then the more lights I added, the lower the amp draw gets - yet the lights illuminates more! Lowest last night was only a fraction of 1 mA - with 8 gas tubes.

            The ground does make a big difference with one or two lights, then it rather seems to reduce illumination for 3 to 5 lights and after that the lights goes stronger when earth is connected. All along, if it is very quiet and you listen carefully, you can hear the changes in the frequency note from the coil singing.

            There is a definite high voltage on both the positive and negative parts of the circuit, even right at the battery poles. Though in most places you can only feel it with a soft lingering touch. Anywhere, even HV outlet from (my low rate Chinese) coil does not shock when you take firm hold of lead.

            TESLA: Wireless transmission was one of his dreams, but then also part of that same was to make the energy so cheap that it could be afforded to transmit wireless. His tower was just that - not so much the transmission but the 'condenser' to capture the energy from the aether, transform it to useful electricity and then beam it out to users.

            There are a few milestones I think and would like to pursue:
            Cold form – we have it,
            No current – we have it,
            Free all over – Not entirely
            Not affecting people – getting rid of the noisemaker relay helps very much
            Wireless (not conductors needed) – already possible and done in this group
            Unlimited – Where can this go? Upscale I guess we will find a compounded scale here: i.e. 1 in yields 10 out, 10 in yield 1,000 out, 100 in yields millions out.

            Master Tesla did on occasion make the comparison to static - and then says 'we know it is not'. By all means, what we are getting out of this simple circuit is VERY similar to static - but it is not, for it does lit up lights. When touching the circuit lightly the sensations of the ‘shocks’ are similar to STATIC, same with the sparks though a gap. When you grab a firm hold there is no sensation of shock or tingling, same as static. If it was not for the battery requirement and the coil singing, I would have bumped it all off the workbench as being static!

            Question one: How exactly does this happen now. Which I could put a microscope to the whole circuit and crawl inside to see what is happening where. Once this is answered, I am very confident we will have a posisble answer to the 100 year question.
            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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            • ashtweth and Tesla

              Sorry, the previous post arrived twice.
              Last edited by Aromaz; 11-27-2008, 01:45 AM. Reason: Deleted.
              Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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              • Part 2 --Aromaz Circuit

                Aromaz-- Thanks for saving me a trip to the desert. I reduced the circuit by 2 transistors today to see if it would still run and it did. If I run it on low power mine runs cool and at about 70 mili amps. I also tried multiple cfls and that also worked. In the video I show the HV being pumped out of this thing. It is very strong. A standard 110v neon will light up from only one lead at any place in the circcuit. There is something very strange going on here. With two cfls in series mine will run without the earth ground but at reduced light.

                YouTube - Aromaz CFL Circuit--Part 2

                Cheers,

                Lidmotor

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                • BANG !! Revelations and FlAsHeS !!

                  Thanks again Lidmotor. Reducing the transistors was exactly what I was busy with when some flashes went off. My next step is actually to replace the transistors and start playing with other devices.

                  I am busy there in my toy room but my brains are trying to understand what is happening.

                  Suddenly I found myself frozen – BANG !!!! REVELATION and FLASHES went off in all my grey matter.

                  Thanks to so much video’s, readings, documents. In particular here I will say this revelation is probably caused by something I read or heard from Tom Bearden ?? Somewhere ??. Maybe it was Stan Mayer? Maybe it is just the high frequency environment I am sitting in?

                  I will reserve the honour of calling this: DYNAMIC RESONANCE THEORY (DRT). What we always do when seeking this ‘Energy from the vacuum’ and Tesla’s secrets = "We are TRYING TO CONTROL by our standards, circuits and systems"

                  This DRT of us is just the opposite – IT IS OPEN, it is NOT (Human / Instrument) controlled, IT MOVES ON ITS OWN !!!

                  So my Dynamic Resonance Theory is:
                  Open the gate to the vacuum energy and let nature do it on its own terms. By having a free floating resonance, depending on the demand, we should have a complete free operation with unlimited energy supply. Eventually – once we understand this phenomena – we will also get rid of the transistors and place some other form of “gate opener” in its place. Most probably these secrets are hidden in coil design and magnetic resonance.

                  Lets us just create the GATE and let nature give it to us on its own terms. Do not try to CONTROL it, we can see human failure everywhere where we thought we control nature. Let us try to build open circuits that can make its own decision on resonance and drawing of power. Soon I think we will also get rid of the battery and learn how to use ONLY THE AETHER AND GROUND !!!!!!

                  This current very elementary system is only opening the gate for the vacuum energy to start flowing. As soon as the circuit/coil reaches a resonance the energy is there, all available on demand. As more load is added, more energy flows and LESS IS REQUIRED from the battery. The circuit is FREE to move (resonante) on its own demand. Present restriction is only the coil ability. My small coil can not allow too much to pass through. I will be forced to get something bigger, probably cut a few of these coils open and connect them in series/parallel configuration – STACKED COILs ? To wind 100,000’s turns on my little hand cranker will take ages – and not be as well done as inside this induction coils.

                  This does also explain other phenomena I noticed: Soonest I change something – i.e. touch some places, connect coils/diodes/resistors the energy dies. Empty, dead, nothing.

                  A: We find that adding or reducing load (lights) the resonance changes
                  B: There is even a slight change of about 200 Hz in resonance between night to day.
                  C: It is pulling energy from somewhere – but THE SYSTEM ITSELF decides when and how much to draw !!!

                  Reminds me of the Manna for the Israeli's in the desert - they can not store it for the next day! Only take and use as much as you need, tomorrow will bring new fresh food - ENERGY. This circuit clearly proved to me that it does not like capacitors - though it is still fed from the battery. Soon we will get rid of that too. I plan to set up a system on my farm fed only from an air antena and ground plate - complete earth battery!

                  Help folks! Help. Dr. Lindeman? Imhotep and Shiva, where are you? We are missing your cool brains here!
                  Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                  • Thanks for that Aromaz and Lid, ill up date Imhoteps/your PDF.

                    Now also any one interested in that negative resistor thing, Gene gave us te links.

                    Heres that link from jlnlabs... its been up there for a couple years
                    now.A Negative Differential Resistance Oscillator with a Negistor
                    here also this page to a loaded version a similar circuit.

                    The NDR Oscillator with LOAD
                    Not sure if its helpful... but probably interesting for those guys to
                    read. Gene

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                    • We are in the AIR, nice video Lidmotor

                      [QUOTE=Lidmotor;36206]Aromaz-- Thanks for saving me a trip to the desert. I reduced the circuit by 2 transistors today to see if it would still run and it did. If I run it on low power mine runs cool and at about 70 mili amps. I also tried multiple cfls and that also worked. In the video I show the HV being pumped out of this thing. It is very strong. A standard 110v neon will light up from only one lead at any place in the circcuit. There is something very strange going on here. With two cfls in series mine will run without the earth ground but at reduced light.]

                      Lidmotor, just got your video down now. I think the major difference between us is the coil. My coils are low class and has max output 6,800v on HV (when I was doing the original Imhotel single coi/relay). On my coil('s have 4) I can barely hear the resonance, same with younger people. On your video the resonance is very audioble.

                      On an earlier question: Yes my 555 circuit was connected to the Base of the 2N2222.

                      Suggest:
                      A) Add more and more lights till you really see the glow goes down with every new addition. If your coil is stronger than mine, I suspect you will be able to light up much more light than me. That could also be the reason you had trouble with the 2222 since it might not pass enough initial energy for the demands of your coil - AND why I can not get second coil running....and why I needed 3 tertiary transistors..... I will look into other options for this transistor.

                      B) Consider to get rid of the control pot, see my previous post about DRT.

                      C) Move earth wire around on circuit to test alternative places each time you change something. Even disconnect.

                      VERY curious to see video with Tesla transmitter.

                      I just keep on failing to get my video's uploaded to You Tube. Same mystical message, even translated video to .AVI, same thing "Fail to upload due to unknown error
                      Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                      • Negative Resistance !!! Very nice indeed.

                        Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                        Thanks for that Aromaz and Lid, ill up date Imhoteps/your PDF.
                        Now also any one interested in that negative resistor thing, Gene gave us te links.
                        Gene
                        Thanks to Gene. I have been to JLN labs before, though there I was more interested in the AntiGravity research. This NDR is just possible to solve another problem I have. VERY interesting indeed.

                        Much appreciated and big "thank you" to Gene.
                        Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                        • Frequency testing

                          @ Lidmotor and Bodkins;

                          If you do not mind and it is possible, I would like to verify some more ghostly findings here.

                          Have you been able to measure the actual frequencies? In particular I am interested in the fq in Hz measured:

                          A - at the coil Positive (+)
                          B - at the coil Negative
                          C - At the battery poles (+) and Negative (-)
                          D - Your earth wire on occation where:
                          1) connection increases illumination
                          2) connection decreases illumination.
                          E - Take at least 3 identical CFl's - does not matter whatever else you have connected in tubes or so. Take reading at + terminal of coil, add 1x light in series, measure again, add 2nd light in series; measure and add 3rd light..measure.

                          There is a puzzle embedded here. This might be of help to formulate the DRTheory.
                          Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                          • another replica

                            with 1 2n2222a and 2 2n30555

                            grazie aroma

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                            • Very interesting indeed Aromaz. Maybe you could try a rotating coil to see what happens? There is a huge secret in motion of the coils and transfomers(ie variocoupleers) I believe. Aehter will be attracted to a vortex motion.

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                              • I think Ash's post brought up an interesting point before. While the majority of these circuits are running fairly efficiently it is important to note the light output. I have a toroidal transformer here that I am pulsing with a PWM and mosfet and I have finally got a bulb to light to full brightness or more. By full, I mean if you stare at it for longer than a second your vision goes blurry . There is a dramatic difference between "lit" and "illuminating" and it is important to note. I can run my lights at low amp draw, but only at decreased incadescance as well. Coincidently the 20watt globe I have can be lit to 99% brightness or more for 1.5 amps @ 12v. One interesting point is the toroidal transformers secondary is not directly connected to the primaries.

                                Aromaz I am interested to see where your circuit goes, there are multiple ways one can trigger an oscillation for peanuts. IF you havent yet, look further back in this thread at the Bedini self oscillator we experimented with, I believe that in some ways it is similar in principle to the one you have, to some degree. Didnt Lidmotor connect the transistors base (2n2222) to the positive of the source?

                                By the way, search for a demo or freeware version of "stoik video converter" if you have a pc. I had no troubles with it converting for the Tube.
                                "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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