Imhotep's Radiant Oscillator Video

[Aromaz]

Teaser

It is late - or rather early in the morning, so I will go to sleep. In some 6 or 7 hours from now I would have another edited video on line. This might rock some with the radiant voltage spikes and how to get them more - so dense it almost becomes one solid line - 7Khz of which more than 80% has spikes.

An afterthought now while I am typing - so consider this a lab note. I will work on it soon, but maybe some more experienced people can think about this so long.
1: Radiant spikes I get plenty of under certain conditions are 200+ Vdc and -180 Vdc. Together it is AC - which explains why the damn thing kicks so hard!
2: I think we should look at using the Negative resistance of the 2222A again towards the end of the circuit to break the possitive and negative spikes, into separate lines, then bridge them back in a sine wave and push that through a voltage multiplier, Bedini type bifilar/trifilar coil and eventually a ? transformer/capacitor/battery. Yea I know it sounds crazy/stupid/moronic/lunatic - but so does this whole darn thing.

@Slayer007 - I could not get any charge in a cap with diode in the circuit, with me it just kept on shutting down. Good from you I will look at that again. Thanks for posting this diagram. If we can charge a cap we are going to get somewhere real quick.

Have also an idea for expansion on the circuit which I will trial out tomorrow and if results as expected, will post it.

[slayer007]

It is late - or rather early in the morning, so I will go to sleep. In some 6 or 7 hours from now I would have another edited video on line. This might rock some with the radiant voltage spikes and how to get them more - so dense it almost becomes one solid line - 7Khz of which more than 80% has spikes.

An afterthought now while I am typing - so consider this a lab note. I will work on it soon, but maybe some more experienced people can think about this so long.
1: Radiant spikes I get plenty of under certain conditions are 200+ Vdc and -180 Vdc. Together it is AC - which explains why the damn thing kicks so hard!
2: I think we should look at using the Negative resistance of the 2222A again towards the end of the circuit to break the possitive and negative spikes, into separate lines, then bridge them back in a sine wave and push that through a voltage multiplier, Bedini type bifilar/trifilar coil and eventually a ? transformer/capacitor/battery. Yea I know it sounds crazy/stupid/moronic/lunatic - but so does this whole darn thing.

@Slayer007 - I could not get any charge in a cap with diode in the circuit, with me it just kept on shutting down. Good from you I will look at that again. Thanks for posting this diagram. If we can charge a cap we are going to get somewhere real quick.

Have also an idea for expansion on the circuit which I will trial out tomorrow and if results as expected, will post it.

Try it with just one of the grounds on the ignition coil.
With just one of the grounds hooked up you can still collect a little BEMF.
But with both hooked up the lights brighter and you get a lot more BEMF.

[slayer007]

I let it run a little longer this time and it went up to 200v before I shut it off.
Now just need it find a way to fill up the capasitor at a faster rate and well really have something.

[Aaron]

one wire cap charger

If I keep shrinking this down pretty soon you will need a magnifing glass to see it. I switched to Tip3055s and soldered it all together.

YouTube - Super Simple CFL Drive---solid state

Lidmotor

Great vid Lidmotor. This is what I did with the original Imhotep oscillators. But instead of a bulb, I put a sparkplug where the bulb goes to act as a wastegate to get real disruptive punches. I was able to charge a cap to 100+ volts no problem and pretty fast too. I could also do it one wire from any of the 4 terminals on the input or output batt.

I had that cap connected to another cap and had it trigger when the neon pulsed triggering the base of an scr or transistor at about 90v for one experiment and it worked perfectly. It can charge batts too. If you have a bulb instead of a spark plug, the radiant kickback is not nearly as strong but there is a tradeoff. The main benefit for not having the light is IF you want a cap charge fast and high with pure radiant. If not, then the bulb is the best practical use.

[Lidmotor]

Thanks Aaron -- The missing piece of the puzzle

Great vid Lidmotor. This is what I did with the original Imhotep oscillators. But instead of a bulb, I put a sparkplug where the bulb goes to act as a wastegate to get real disruptive punches. I was able to charge a cap to 100+ volts no problem and pretty fast too. I could also do it one wire from any of the 4 terminals on the input or output batt.

I had that cap connected to another cap and had it trigger when the neon pulsed triggering the base of an scr or transistor at about 90v for one experiment and it worked perfectly. It can charge batts too. If you have a bulb instead of a spark plug, the radiant kickback is not nearly as strong but there is a tradeoff. The main benefit for not having the light is IF you want a cap charge fast and high with pure radiant. If not, then the bulb is the best practical use.

Thanks Aaron---I knew that there had to be a way to do this. I have the spark plug and the necessary other parts. This "either or" approach is what I am looking for. Make it simple and make it either a charger or a light or both.

Lidmotor

[Aaron]

inverted circuit

Aromaz,

Have you inverted all the transitors sets and put them on the negative side?

Meaning, connect batt + to + on ignition coil primary.

Have the strip of transistors between negative on primary of ignition coil and the negative on the battery with all the emitters pointing towards the negative on the battery.

This way the positive potential from the battery is ALREADY sitting inside of the ignition coil. Then it is the negative potential that you are switching.

[boguslaw]

Aromaz,

Do you use table with metal tabletop during your experiments ?
Once ago I had something similar - an powerful electrostatic like field around my device which I felt like a little needles on skin. When I approached to device with a screwdriver with neon inside it kicked me off.

In my case it seems to appear when a DC positive pulse is coming from capacitor through high self-inductance coil into a kind of spark gap having a tiny gap and tiny wires along path to ground presumably being in inert gas or vacuum also. In other words something which resist current flow to much extend.Radiant energy is in that case spread around from spark gap.
I tried to build plasma globe from old broken filament bulb :-)

[Aromaz]

Answer on table and describe worktops

Aromaz,

Do you use table with metal tabletop during your experiments ?
Once ago I had something similar - an powerful electrostatic like field around my device which I felt like a little needles on skin. When I approached to device with a screwdriver with neon inside it kicked me off.

In my case it seems to appear when a DC positive pulse is coming from capacitor through high self-inductance coil into a kind of spark gap having a tiny gap and tiny wires along path to ground presumably being in inert gas or vacuum also. In other words something which resist current flow to much extend.Radiant energy is in that case spread around from spark gap.
I tried to build plasma globe from old broken filament bulb :-)

Appreciate the concern, NO! Oversight; I should have described this in the first video. Table is 25mm (1 inch thick )chipboard (wood) only legs are aluminium. Complete floor is dual layer plywood 35mm+ thick sitting on steel frame of building, 4m above ground. Distance from tabletop to nearest steel beam under floor (except aluminum legas of table) is 118 cm.

The sheets of black and blue is only decorative PolyPropelene (plastic) and for decorative purpose - table was salvaged from factory. They do build a bit of static up when rubbed hard and fast, but loose it also very quickly. Does not conduct anything. Similar kind of material used as dielectric in capacitors.

At my working table I am using Acrylic (perspex) with a layer of foam underneath. Sometimes later I might proabbaly use this also on the operating table.

[Aromaz]

Inverted transistors

Aromaz,

Have you inverted all the transitors sets and put them on the negative side?

Meaning, connect batt + to + on ignition coil primary.

Have the strip of transistors between negative on primary of ignition coil and the negative on the battery with all the emitters pointing towards the negative on the battery.

This way the positive potential from the battery is ALREADY sitting inside of the ignition coil. Then it is the negative potential that you are switching.

Indeed I did, also presented this in an earlier writing where I was testing different transistors. I works similar; but needs kick start and permanent connection to base of 2222. Even with 4 slaves, it did not run automatically. will try this again just for the sake of info later today.

[hh1341]

Hello Aromaz,

What a joy it is to see your video's.

There is no doubt that seeing is believing.
Video is such a powerful tool.

Thank you all for your visual contributions.

Carl

[Aromaz]

A thank you from me

Hello Aromaz,

What a joy it is to see your video's.

There is no doubt that seeing is believing.
Video is such a powerful tool.

Thank you all for your visual contributions.

Carl

Thanks for the compliment!

I have learned very much - most - from other people that offered their knowledge for free on the internet. I have as fairly good analytical ability. It is a pleasure to try and convey my knowlege to others who are interested in learning it; in very basic and common language.

By trying to teach others, I actually learn myself more. Often when I am trying to explain something for others I get new ideas. Guess it is a matter of the more you give the more you get.

In thia case; by transferring what I know, people in this group often think of things I did not, thus we all make it better.

[mlurye]

Aromaz. Thank you for sharing your videos. I'm trying to follow your research. By the way as I noticed sound is coming out of transistor, not bulbs.

[Aromaz]

Occillations

Aromaz. Thank you for sharing your videos. I'm trying to follow your research. By the way as I noticed sound is coming out of transistor, not bulbs.

Thank you, you are welcome. I find the sound of the occillations are all over the place. I think it depends on which parts is beating the drum at that stage - and that drum beater is rotating from time to time on the same setup and even in the same run.

A few times I had it from the transistors. Mostly it is the coil and a little less it is in the gas tubes. I am picking them up and move around to verify. i.e. on the big F/tubes it is very easy. Camera is not so very easy to determine the direction - unless moved very close, but my camera has stereo microphones.

[Aaron]

open loop transistor chains

Aromaz,

This is the only thing I can think of that shows extra energy effects with transistor chains. Bearden had this on his site for years. I do NOT know if the effects are related.

The Tom Bearden Website

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J. H. Andreatta, "High Power Switching Amplifier Wherein Energy is Transferred to a Tuned Circuit During Both Half Cycles," U.S. Patent No. 3,239,771, Mar. 8, 1966;

Tom L. Dennis, Jr., "Highly Efficient Semiconductor Switching Amplifier," U.S. Patent No. 3,239,772, Mar. 8, 1966;

Heber J. Morrison, "Square Wave Driven Power Amplifier," U.S. Patent No. 3,815,030, June 4, 1974.

DeSantis et al. showed that feedback systems with a multipower open loop chain can produce COP > 1.0 performance.

Romano M. DeSantis et al., "On the Analysis of Feedback Systems With a Multipower Open Loop Chain," Oct. 1973, AD 773188, available through the U.S. National Technical Information System.

On the Analysis of Feedback Systems with a Multipower Open Loop Chain,

[Aaron]

relay oscillators

Is anyone here continuing with circuits that use relay(s)?