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  • Pieces of the puzzle, anyone?

    Konstantin Meyl explains how Faraday and Maxwell do not jive with each other and could be misleading you.
    Meyl
    Demos of Tesla's scalar wave transmission,
    with OU (not really it's an open circuit)
    Explains how there are 3 WAVES going on at the same time and that's important for free energy researchers to know this.
    Explains a human is like an antenna giving off scalar waves (transmitter) ..
    later shows how a human can be a receiver

    Uses a 2 volt power supply to produce his scalar waves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Resonance Coupling explains how the "Touching of WOOD" causes an effect.

    Stop touching, We are transmitting. Watch the videos.


    Randy
    Remember to be kind to your mind ...
    Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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    • @Rectified, I also agree that we should learn more before eperimenting. And Learn it from anything even if it was considered fake. By learning all of that we should know the truth sooner or later. Some book I want to avoid though, Tom Bearden one, it has too many theory and history that make me unable to find out how to actually achieve it. On other side, Peter Lindemann and Konstantin Meyl work is a must read.


      For solid state experiment, I failed to make two TIP2955 vibrate. replacing 2N2222A with TIP3055 do not work too. 2N2222A pairing with ST 2N3055 certainly work, even for a second. I will have to wait until I can buy another ST 2N3055, maybe re trying Toshiba 2N3055 too.


      About circuit, one thing that I seen as an obstacle for obtaining over unity, using current way of dumping BEMF current trough source positive, is the way the device draw more current when there is more load. It seems more BEMF load force the power source to power it too.

      If we seen the circuit is two separate loop, normal current loop and BEMF current loop. Both seems to be dependent to each other. My experiment show that when there is BEMF load, the current drawn from source increase.

      The alternative way that I try use less current, brighter light, but unfortunately much less BEMF current. Maybe the opposite facing diode act more like limiting valve. Maybe need a diode with lower rating to allow higher source voltage to go trough but limiting the one bellow.

      I am thinking that if I can make the proces faster or continuous with dual pumping BEMF using two output multivibrator we can make the BEMF part rotate more. Just a non proven theory.

      Edit:
      Sorry, after rethinking it again, the alternative circuit still won't allow us to go over unity because it still force the power source to power the BEMF load. But I can't explain why this alternative circuit require lower power and yet have brighter lamp.
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      Last edited by sucahyo; 01-09-2009, 06:29 AM.

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      • Current flow ? ? ?

        Aromaz and others thanks for your kind reply.
        Through the years I had a difficult time understanding many things I was taught until later on in life. I now realize many books and examples they gave were incorrect. I like many others believing what they said as fact. I now gather as much information as I can with an open mind and have realized I often need to recognize the material learned may not always apply to every situation. I have grown old being told by experts many things I was able to accomplish was impossible, yet after examining my work, they were unable to explain how it was in fact possible. Faradays laws of energy often disagree with overunity research when experts fail to understand his equations have limitations that fail to take into account other factors now involved.
        When reading many posts here and elsewhere its obvious many are confused or don’t understand Current. The term current flow I often here and read in textbooks incorrectly explained. Collage Physic’s instructors say they need their students to unlearn what they were taught in lower grades to teach many misunderstood concepts. For example the term current flow, Amps (current ) is short hand for coulombs. 1 amp = the flow of 1 coulomb of electrons passing one point in one second. Its all about speed (Frequency). Take A 1 amp 12v bulb, you can try to give it a thousand volts but if it doesn’t get it fast enough it will hardly give off any light.
        When passing direct current ( DC ) through a coil it has very little resistance to the flow of electrons (volts) however when you pulse DC it behaves like alternating current AC. Going up and down. Depending on the quality of your meter you may or may not be measuring correctly what you thing. An oscilloscope should be used to measure what is really going on. When this pulse is put through a coil it now has to fight its way through the magnetic field that is being forced back and forth like two magnets of like poles changing back and forth, The electrons ( voltage) taking longer two get through to the other end. The more turns the slower it is, so more coulombs of electrons ( amperage ) will be needed to reach the other end. Tesla found by aligning another coil of more turns close to the first coil this energy could be captured and amplified but with less speed (Current) The coils however needed to be very very well tuned ( in resonance ) for best results. The size and shape of a coil, the number of turns and size of the wires and how close together from one another all make a difference. There are many coil calculators to do the math on the Internet to make it much easier for beginners once you understand what is going on. Hope this will be helpful.
        Good luck

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        • A MEISSNER - Google Patents

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          • I think I got the message!

            It seems you guys are talking directly to me. First it was AllCanadian to say that "....the moment I stopped following others and started coming to my own understanding based on the work of others is the moment I started succeeding." Allcanadian on "Dipole".

            Then it was Aromaz echoing the same thought in different words. Now it is Rectified saying very nearly the same thing. It is odd that all these people are repeating something my father told me so long ago, “stick with what you know! Expand on that over time as you understand what is going on.”

            As it happens, I jumped in on a lot of these threads and tried to duplicate/replicate whatever the project was, all the time thinking that I could do it. Well, I can’t do it because I don’t understand most of what is going on. As a result, I’ve backed off, nearly completely, from trying to DO THE DOING and just thinking about what I’ve done so far. The results so far amaze even me. I’ve developed my own projects based on what I’ve learned here and other threads. When I’m far enough along I will post some pictures/videos.

            I’ll leave y’all with this thought….. REMEMBER THE SIX Ps!

            Link; YouTube - Mexican Tree Removal

            Warren
            ..
            Men had been depending for too long on the authority of the great minds of the past and that they should rely more on their own resources in obtaining knowledge.
            Francis Bacon

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            • Avoiding MTR (Mexican tree removal) syndrome

              @ Warren---You are so right! " Proper, Prior, Planning, Prevents, Poor, Performance. The six Ps. There is another one that goes: Set a goal. Make a plan. Work the plan. Reach the goal. My Dad was a Aerospace systems engineer and he taught me the value of thinking things out before starting a project.
              As far as the MTR guy is concerned, he may have had a plan that went like this: "Honey my old truck is all worn out and I need to get a new one." Wife says: " Ha--Not until you get rid of that old tree in the back." The flaw in his plan was that now he has to rebuild his fence too as well as dipose of his "tree truck".

              Lidmotor

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              • @Lidmotor. I remember clearly my electronics courses at university as the biggest sleeping pill ever encountered from my side....

                Turned out I dragged myself through the courses with average grades studying 2 days before exam forgetting everything about electronics before the evening of the exam party.... Then I told myself "never again I will do something as useless as this".... Well, imagine having Konstantin Meyl as teacher, eyes would have been wide open and 15 years would not have been lost....

                @all, why not try to study the VIC of chapter 10-11 of the WFC letter of Stan Meyer? Believe me, he is underestimated, he really built a beautiful magnetowave generator in one piece of multiple spools and 1-way wires to a gap inside water or air.

                Pulse the magnetowaves from the VIC to a spark gap inside the Gray tube or inside the WFC and you will get radiant energy as far as I see it. Most people never reached chapter 10 of the WFC because his theories are just too much.... But this one will payoff I am sure.

                It should be easily wound and will yield better results than almost anything I have seen so far. Each spool will generate one node and then you send the nodes from the primary/secondary for a collision in the gap. Voila pick up the radiant, ie with the Gray tube. And the best part of all you will not need the transformers etc, just step charge the nodes into the gap for a collision wave that will screw itself out from center to the concentric Gray tube copper cages in a scroll wave.

                Goal, plan, execution. Please study the late VIC, you will get RESULTS.

                This is why Meyl achieves his waves without HV, he has the right geometry of his coil and understands the duality of he E/B-field, that is the secret. The rest is frequency.

                Enough said, thanks for your time, if I am wrong you may want to electrocute me, I will have to take the risk and I hope someone else can see what I see asap.

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                • About frequency, I found something interesting today. Starting with the background story:

                  I bought Toshiba 2N3055 yesterday. I replace the 2N2222 of my multivibrator circuit with that. It still failed. So I decided to do something else.

                  I have plan to use Joule thief circuit for charging and lighting neon. At first attempt I failed. Then I am thinking that it also good as PWM. so I put it together as my HHO cell PWM.

                  Work very well. The current have to be divided by the coil and the cell, so the current can only be change between 1% to 50%. The base resistor get very hot if the current is high, but the transistor it self is cool.

                  I listening Meyl lecture when I touch the 2N3055 collector, I got shock in my ear. My ear phone have additional magnet attached to increase gain and it touch my ear. Touching the 2n3055 hurt my ear. This make me realize that there should be BEMF current in collector.

                  Knowing this I attach a charging battery. It do have BEMF. I don't know why I don't notice it before. Maybe because I was wrong to think that neon is an indication of back EMF. Neon do not light up at all. The transformer I use has 8 ohm between 24V to 24V pin. 500 ohm secondary for neon output using 0V and 240V pin. Currently 12V 7A battery charging at 1V per hour rate.

                  The interesting part is when I try to reduce the frequency of the circuit (higher frequency have smaller duty cycle, make HHO cell produce less bubble). The voltage of the charging battery is increased when I reduce the frequency. Up until the point the power supply shut off it self.

                  The same thing happen when I start from lowest frequency, when I increase the ferquency, the voltage of charging battery increase until the the power supply shut off it self. The current draw (HHO production) always proportional with frequency (base resistance). But the BEMF voltage isn't. My power supply shut off it self when the base resistance is between 660 ohm and 3.88 Kilo ohm.

                  For reference, here is the sound that picked up by microphone from transistor. From high frequency to low until the power is shut off automatically.
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                  here is the video, for this experiment I replace battery with led. led is powered by back EMF. The video will show that back EMF is not generated the same way as current do, more to resonance frequency. I use only one cell of my HHO generator to avoid shutting off my power supply.
                  YouTube - Highest back EMF on resonance with joule thief circuit


                  I think there must be a sweet spot for generating the maximum BEMF. Anyone else having similar experience?

                  edit, I can make it light up neon too. Neon is placed at secondary. Previous attemp failed because the neon only light up when the circuit is in resonance and generate the max BEMF.
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                  Last edited by sucahyo; 01-11-2009, 04:49 AM.

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                  • grays circuit lighting cfls

                    YouTube - UPDATE 28 EDWIN GRAY / TESLA RADIANT ENERGY HYBRID CIRCUIT Running at 48volts

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                    • @nat1971, is there a diagram that show all the connection? can you post it?


                      Here is video of joule thief with neon. Sound is frequency picked up from transformer. HHO cell used as current limiter.
                      YouTube - Max BEMF at resonance neon with sound

                      The circuit is in attachment. The video story:
                      At first I use only one of my HHO cell which require the least amount of current. The neon would not light up even when I change the frequency.

                      And then I use all of my HHO cell. The neon will light up only at resonance.



                      Not shown on video, the neon will not light up if I use the BEMF to charge battery or to power up 12V computer fan.

                      I see why everyone want to change to solid state. I can tune the circuit to power up computer fan rather fast without having to deal with spark that heating up relay . And because the power that get trough the transistor is low, the transistor (no heat sink) and resistor is cool. The transformer get slightly warm though. Transformer coil attached to neon detected as producing 190V AC. The circuit draw 0.13 amp.

                      Edit:
                      By removing the HHO cell, I can make the neon light up at any frequency. The neon will still light up when the BEMF is loaded with computer fan which run close to full speed. But it still go off when the BEMF is loaded with charge battery. The max BEMF now can only detected by either detecting voltage at charged battery or the purpleish light at the neon.



                      Conclusion from this experiment:
                      - Highest BEMF can be attain at resonance, the power consumption is lower too. This maybe influenced by coil wire, core or wound.
                      - We need current to get BEMF. If we think the electricity as water, to get BEMF we need to make it flow fast (high current) and coil is needed to generate inertia or something. There must be minimum requirement for coil wound for sufficient inertia, although maybe at very high voltage and amp coil may not be needed becase the flow already very fast. Higher momentum will create greater impact. Large impact generate more BEMF avalanche.
                      - Voltage multiplication is not an important factor. My transformer can only output 200V and it still light up the neon. Generating sufficient BEMF is more important.
                      - Electricity has mass.

                      Possibilities (next experiment)
                      - At high amp, we may end up charging the source battery too if we get resonance.
                      - There is a BEMF leak in the coil indicated by slightly warm temperature. Maybe an air core is preferable. A wire wounding going trough the center and outer part of this coil at vertical direction may be used to utilize this leaked power.
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                      Last edited by sucahyo; 01-12-2009, 05:31 AM.

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                      • hmm. Just to point out chaps, it seems someone on the monopole groups has got their UNMODIFIED cfl to run in place of the charging battery on their SG. I am awaiting more details.
                        "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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                        • pf corrected cfl's?

                          Hi Ren,

                          You might not know until you get details but do you know if these unmodified clf's are PF corrected or not?
                          Sincerely,
                          Aaron Murakami

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                          • Hi Aaron,

                            The only info given on the bulb was this "The Sylvania bulb" and AFAIK it is bog stock standard CFL. (You can check it out on BM3 groups).

                            It is actually a brushless motor conversion, the motor being out of an old office printer of all things! It looks very cool, plenty of poles to play around with. Their is only currently 4 coils being used. I thought that at first he may have utilised a HEI chip or similar (like John has shown in one of the advanced groups) and that it may be the same principle, considering JB's one had the trigger coil @ 90degrees and this also has 90 degree quandrants. But the user (dadhav) says it is directly connected to unit, replacing the charging battery.

                            Worth a look.
                            "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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                            • @sucahyo

                              i will post a circuit a bit later.

                              I dont think i will be able to post the opto part as that is from bedini's book..i will show a block diagram instead perhaps.

                              cheers

                              nat

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                              • @nat1971a, thanks, that would be sufficient.

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