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  • [QUOTE=sucahyo;42655]@Bodkins, what this video about?

    Kickback energy from the coil
    The coil fires one spark to the bulb in a postive dirrection I put a Big diode after bulb so the spark goes to ground,
    After spark leaves the coil and goes to ground there is a kickback.(like a stone dropped in water, the water fills the gap after the stone has past)But the gap cannot be filled from ground because of the diode.
    So it will take any path it can and I give it a path another ground to any part of the Setup.
    Put a cap in that path and pill it up,Or a light, I dont think the energy will run a motor.

    BodKins

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    • [QUOTE=Bodkins;42674]
      Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
      @Bodkins, what this video about?

      Kickback energy from the coil
      The coil fires one spark to the bulb in a postive dirrection I put a Big diode after bulb so the spark goes to ground,
      After spark leaves the coil and goes to ground there is a kickback.(like a stone dropped in water, the water fills the gap after the stone has past)But the gap cannot be filled from ground because of the diode.
      So it will take any path it can and I give it a path another ground to any part of the Setup.
      Put a cap in that path and pill it up,Or a light, I dont think the energy will run a motor.

      BodKins
      Awesome, cant wait to see it in action bodkins. next time u post a vid, draw a circuit so we can see exactly wats goin on. the mess on your workbench is as bad as your spelling mate!

      Bedini says u cant use radiantly charged batteries like we do normal ones. we can run lights but motors.. no..we are dealing with 2 types of electricities. Look at some of tesla's patents (ill find the patent numbers when i got time), he came up with ways to catch the radiant and power normal dc motors.
      He runs the radiantly charged into inverter and charges the front battery with a standard charger.
      "If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it." - Albert Einstein


      http://www.youtube.com/user/dodoshlodo

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      • [QUOTE=shlodo;42690]
        Originally posted by Bodkins View Post

        Awesome, cant wait to see it in action bodkins. next time u post a vid, draw a circuit so we can see exactly wats goin on. the mess on your workbench is as bad as your spelling mate!

        Bedini says u cant use radiantly charged batteries like we do normal ones. we can run lights but motors.. no..we are dealing with 2 types of electricities. Look at some of tesla's patents (ill find the patent numbers when i got time), he came up with ways to catch the radiant and power normal dc motors.
        He runs the radiantly charged into inverter and charges the front battery with a standard charger.
        I now how he did it

        What you talking about the last two videos it was in action
        circuit im not doing any more diagrams you dont need it
        school girl motor ignition coil postive and negative connect to the collecter.
        bulbs big diodes and play play play

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        • Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
          How do you measure max charging rate? If you make it faster, I also experience reduced amperage draw, but charging amp also reduced too.

          Higher frequency = reduce amperage draw = reduce charging amp, most of the time. Reducing frequency bellow optimum will result in INCREASED amperage draw BUT REDUCED charge amp.
          On a lead acid battery charging rate is most simply indicated by difference between charging voltage of the battery. I noticed when adjusting my pot that i had a voltage change on my charging battery coinciding with the brightess on my cfl and inversely with drawing amps. From one end to the other it went up and back down.

          This can be confirmed by comparison of C5 and C20 charging rates.

          Higher frequency reduces dwell(on)time for the coil minimizing wasted watts. but varing the duty cycle could impact the circuit differently.

          According to tom bearden we only want the coil to be on long enough to energize the coil then switch back off.

          Amps on the charging output of the drive coil actually goes up becuase of the increased number of radiant spikes.

          Matt

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          • @Bodkins What dimension of diode are you using (2000V or less)?
            I have a hard time finding old microwaves here to possibly scavenge these, since where i live people dont dump stuff on the street and at the recycling yard they refuse to let me grab one due to law restrictions
            I will try to get some from ebay.
            I think your first video got cut off half way through during upload.

            Edit: I am just realizing that what you are doing with the spark route through the ground is a remotely similar how batteries work where the electrons have to find the path through the closed circuit/wires to get to the opposite electrode since they cant get there straight, which in your circuit is inhibited by the diode.
            Last edited by Xenomorph; 01-24-2009, 04:37 AM.

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            • Sorry everone will upload again i didnt check it

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              • Diode HV

                eBay UK Shop - OT Electronics UK: Laser Modules, 1A, 10mA

                diodes here
                Lid I sent you the 10mA12kV High Voltage Diode HV ones

                Still uploading its 4mins long sorry everone.

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                • YouTube - Kickback research

                  Xenomorph you got it
                  sorry dmonarch this will clear things up a bit for you
                  reuploading Kickback 2
                  Im a idiot deleted the wrong one

                  YouTube - Kickback 2
                  Last edited by Bodkins; 01-25-2009, 10:51 AM. Reason: ad kickback 2

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                  • Tempting setup for a replication Bodkins you have there.
                    Unfortunately i only have one ground route, to find another independent one would pose me enormous problems (Living in 3rd floor of residential building )
                    Thanks for the ebay link, so you recommend a 10mA 12kV ? It looks much bigger. Actually more like those 1 Amp 7.5 kV ones, since you said big fat diode in the video and by the looks of it it is much bigger than a coin.
                    Thanks for sharing the info again !

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                    • 10mA12kV High Voltage Diode HV

                      yes they do work, Im using them in this one
                      YouTube - Singlewire lightbulb Singlewire charging
                      I think you will see this one with a better understand now.
                      Just build it Xenomorph and play
                      I was just showing dmonarch how to get kickback for some stuff hes doing.
                      Im not really working on this stuff but if I can Help I will.
                      Last edited by Bodkins; 01-25-2009, 08:22 AM.

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                      • Update

                        you can do this with no ground one ground or two grounds,I was just using two to show that the energy moves in two direction.
                        Over and out

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                        • I have converted my replication to use a bifilar coil as a driver I also have two transformers and two Accel 8140 42KV in series between the positive wire. My ign. coils are lighting two GE 42Watt CFLs in series. I have been experimenting with this type of setup for a while now. Here is what i noticed:
                          • Each standard transformer increases my charging rate.
                            Each ignition coil outputs similar voltage and amperage.
                            Paralleling the high voltage outputs effectively doubles the amperage to the CFL, increasing the brightness. In theory each added ign coil increases the amps respectively minus the lower total amp draw.
                            I am able to run a 36watt 18v dc motor from radio shack in series with the transformers.
                            My neon safety bulb never turns off despite taking all of the radiant energy out of the drive coil.


                          Something to ponder: How many ign coils in this setup would it take to power the cfl's to full brightness on just three watts of power?

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                          • Originally posted by Bodkins View Post
                            eBay UK Shop - OT Electronics UK: Laser Modules, 1A, 10mA

                            diodes here
                            Lid I sent you the 10mA12kV High Voltage Diode HV ones

                            Still uploading its 4mins long sorry everone.
                            Thanks,
                            I have been side tracked on the Joule Thief project but all of this is tied together. What I have learned on the JT circuit I'm going to try and apply to a CFL circuit and what is going on here at the Imhotep thread. Along time ago we found out here that the CFL would turn on with as little as 20 milliamps if the voltage was high enough. My little joule thief LED experiment just ran 9 days straight on a 20 milliamp draw from 2 AA batteries. See where I'm heading with this?

                            Cheers,

                            Lidmotor

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                            • Originally posted by Bodkins View Post
                              QUOTE=sucahyo;42655@Bodkins, what this video about?

                              Kickback energy from the coil
                              Thank you, that explain a lot . I would call it electricity momentum though. When it swing to the left, it will swing back to the right.

                              Originally posted by redeagle View Post
                              On a lead acid battery charging rate is most simply indicated by difference between charging voltage of the battery. I noticed when adjusting my pot that i had a voltage change on my charging battery coinciding with the brightess on my cfl and inversely with drawing amps. From one end to the other it went up and back down.
                              I see. I think you still not reaching the peak yet. See if you can increase the frequency more.



                              @Aromaz, I still don't find info about how pancake coil produce good BEMF. No magnetic induction but good BEMF?
                              Last edited by sucahyo; 01-27-2009, 06:38 AM.

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                              • @Sucahyo

                                Pancake coil low magnetic field means low resistance to change in current, so the aether axis of spin direction can change quicker. Ie the voltage will peak without as much resistance (quicker) when energetic state of charged coil has current removed.

                                the pancake coil is different from other 'normal' geometries of coils in the speed of change like a mechanical switch is different to a transistor - quick changes.
                                Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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