no more oil

[muttdogg]

Gasoline only represents about 8% of oil consumption. So, are you ready to actually stop using oil-based products? Try the petroleum based product you are posting with. How much oil does it take to produce your computer? Your TV? Phone? That's the addiction. The USA is the only country that isn't developing new oil fields, while encouraging new energy resources,

[TuxAir]

That is exactly what cracks me up about some of the people that just gripe about big @$$ trucks and SUV's as the cause of all evil. 8% is pretty close to the number I found researching this a while back. How quickly the argument just fades away when you bring this up

[dambit]

The US may be encouraging new recources, but it's only a show. If she really wanted to she could implement all of the suppressed tech by the end of the year and the only people who would loose money would be the Arabs and a few texans. There would still be plenty of jobs for those who think they will loose out.

Australia could do the same, but our strings are pulled by our American cousins. (those in government, not the public)

Wouldn't the Queen be annoyed

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers,

Steve

[ANTIQUER]

Gasoline only represents about 8% of oil consumption. So, are you ready to actually stop using oil-based products? Try the petroleum based product you are posting with. How much oil does it take to produce your computer? Your TV? Phone? That's the addiction. The USA is the only country that isn't developing new oil fields, while encouraging new energy resources,

Hey Dan & Tuxair;

U.S. uses 20,687,000 barrels of oil per day 9,253,000 goes for gasoline (388.6 million gals. per day). These are official E.I.A. figs. for 2007. If we could cut that in half with HHO it would be huge, not to mention converting power plants, etc. to HHO or water.

Al

[**~Imhotep~**]

i noticed that not only alot of products are made from oil but every product we buy has to have energy applied in every step of the process to get to our hands . it is mind boggling when you think about it .hopefully we will also think of different ways of doing alot of things ,not only what our products are made of but more local production with different local material to help with local jobs and a reduction on excess energy used across the board .
i will continue to try to reduce everything excessive that i use.i hope it helps
water is the most plentiful resource on the planet

[octavian]

still though... you don't burn up your computer or TV as you do with petrol or diesel... i know it does a certain amount of pollution to produce it, but the product stays on the ground and not in the atmosphere.

and as a final note...personal that is.. those Big @$$ SUV's are F**K ugly...

[**~Imhotep~**]

it is funny when they were pushing the (safe) suv's
gas was 98 cents a gallon. me and shiva almost bought into it because it was the big thing in Florida at the time ,now i am sooo ... glad i do not keep up with the jones . i have a little 4 cylinder talon, i love it and the pump loves it too

[Chip Shorter]

That was the big thing here in the States. The Semi-Urban assault Vehicle! I love my 4 cylinders and thats enough for me. If gas was still 79 cents a gallon people would still be driving them.

[ANTIQUER]

Gasoline only represents about 8% of oil consumption. So, are you ready to actually stop using oil-based products? Try the petroleum based product you are posting with. How much oil does it take to produce your computer? Your TV? Phone? That's the addiction. The USA is the only country that isn't developing new oil fields, while encouraging new energy resources,

Hey everyone;

Did a little more searching. Diesel and heating oil use another 23% of total oil consumption for a total of almost 70% being used for gasoline, diesel and heating oil. It's little wonder "Big Oil" hates any talk of conserving or alternative fuel supplies.

Al

[ANTIQUER]

it is funny when they were pushing the (safe) suv's
gas was 98 cents a gallon. me and shiva almost bought into it because it was the big thing in Florida at the time ,now i am sooo ... glad i do not keep up with the jones . i have a little 4 cylinder talon, i love it and the pump loves it too

Hey Imhotep;

where are you in Fl.? I'm in Orlando. Seem to be a whole bunch of members scattered around this state.

As far as suv's I think they are on of the worst things the auto industry ever built. Just another example of how a good marketing stratagy and lot's of ads can sell anything, especially to Americans. A van or station wagon does a much better job without the excessive fuel consumption, but too many were convinced they needed something "new & better". Ha!! They should have used their brains more and their ears and egos less.


As for developing new oil fields the main reason we haven't is the opposition from conservationists and animal rights advocates. It's bizarre the way they think. The Anwar site, for example, is on a barren coastal salt water marsh, yet when those people run ads against drilling there they show beautiful mountain scenes and caribou, none of which are within at least 100 miles of the Anwar site. They said the same nonsense about Prudhoe Bay(which is now the biggest supplier of domestically produced oil), yet the caribou pay no attention to the complex and it has had no impact on them.

To me the other side of the coin is save our oil for future emergencies when we could be cut off from foreign suppliers. In WW II the Germans almost shut down the supply of crude oil from Venezuela, which was a major supplier at that time, using u-boats to sink the tankers. With the modern weapons possessed today by anti-american forces they could totally shut us off from foreign oil, leaving only Canada to buy from( which is currently a major supplier). So while prices are high, until we can develop alternative energy sources, we are better off using up their oil. So maybe the conservationists are doing us a favor without realizing it.

Meantime everyone keep working on whatever you're doing, we need this stuff A.S.A.P.

Al

[octavian]

As far as suv's I think they are on of the worst things the auto industry ever built. Just another example of how a good marketing stratagy and lot's of ads can sell anything, especially to Americans. A van or station wagon does a much better job without the excessive fuel consumption, but too many were convinced they needed something "new & better". Ha!! They should have used their brains more and their ears and egos less.

couldn't agree with you more...

Now you may have noticed that i'm a big porsche fan (check the picture), and i know that may make me look somewhat hypocritical, and i'll admitt it, Porsches do have a relatively high fuel consumption of about 23 mpg, but last time i checked that was about the same fuel consumption as the average american car (keep in mind that Porsches are supercars)! and eventhough the american car industry is getting slightly higher milage out of their cars now than they did before, they are still far behind the european and the japanese manufactures.

I've heard people argue that they need a huge gas guzling engine in their oversized chevy suv because it's so big... now does that make sence?

SUV's are pointless! 99% of them can't do proper offroading either (the 1% are land-rovers). most SUV owners will not encounter any more serious terrain than some leaves on their driveway anyway!

[vzon17]

SUVs

That was the big thing here in the States. The Semi-Urban assault Vehicle! I love my 4 cylinders and thats enough for me. If gas was still 79 cents a gallon people would still be driving them.

Its still big thing here in the central coast of Calif. It looks like about 3/4 of the vehicles on the street here are SUVS or pickups, rediculous. And they all are hauling around a single individual usually.

[ashtweth]

Guys Hemp production can produce 50,000 RENEWABLE products which can replace ALL of the petro chemical industry.
Hemp Production

LOW THC hemp , not the good stuff so you dont need to sacrifice it

[dambit]

LOW THC hemp , not the good stuff so you dont need to sacrifice it

Excellent point.

But it is true, hemp makes the strongest rope, clothes. plus you can process it in all sorts of ways to get what you need. That's the real reason it is outlawed virtually worldwide, one little plant would put many industries out of business. The fact that you can smoke it is just a smoke screen. (no pun intended.......honestly.)

[ANTIQUER]

Guys Hemp production can produce 50,000 RENEWABLE products which can replace ALL of the petro chemical industry.
Hemp Production

LOW THC hemp , not the good stuff so you dont need to sacrifice it

Hey Ash;

Hemp may work but good luck on trying to reverse those laws.

A more feasible alternative is using co2 eating algae to produce oil There is a guy(here in north Fla., I believe) who is producing 78,000 gals per 1 acre set-up. The algae eat as much co2 as the gasoline produces when burned as fuel, so at least in that area it's a neutral situation.

Al.