Harvey Kiker | Kiker Performance Products

[ewizard]

A simple open air test of the Kiker plug wire compared to stock plug wires will show how much different they are.

Stock plug wires are made of (IIRC) carbon material for radio interference suppression and thus have a higher resistance. They will undoubtedly show a less strong spark. I used to switch out my stock radio suppression wires for straight copper as I was more interested in performance on some vehicles but in the end they all seem to get about the same gas mileage. You only need so much spark to ignite the gas under compression so I don't think this is necessarily a guarantee that these will offer better performance. After skimming the rest of the thread here I do wonder if some other effect is coming into play but without some well regulated tests I wouldn't be jumping on any of these mods. I've seen over the years so many people who think there car is running smoother after:
1. their tranny oil was changed
2. their brakes were replaced
3. their headlight was replaced
4. their upholstery was replaced
etc. - you get the idea.
If you want a real 10% performance increase the easy way try ridding your vehicle of about 100 pounds of excess weight (which almost everyone ends up with a lot of extra junk in their vehicle after a while) and that will do wonders for gas mileage.

[moose 53]

Ewisard, True enough ,the only test that means anything in the end is where you save $ or increase performance.

[jibbguy]

It is all about increased efficiency in burn; getting around the slow-burning molecules of gasoline and Diesel... So most of it is not just sucked out the exhaust and wasted. There are many ways to increase burn efficiency, of which the Kiker wires are just one.

When the average efficiency of internal combustion engines hovers around "28%", there is A LOT of room for improvement lol

Just think about that: For over 100 years, no significant improvements there LOL, that is utterly PATHETIC. The "1908 Ford Model T" got 7 miles a gallon MORE than the average car sold in 2008 ("20.8" verses "28 MPG" for the Model T).

This is ALL ABOUT selling as much oil as possible. Lol, even the Traffic Jams that exist in thousands of cities around the planet every day, which are supposed to be "unsolvable", are about selling the maximum amount of fossil fuels. Hehehe, are we REALLY this stupid to LIKE things the way they are?? We can build a Space Station but we can't figure out how to stop traffic jams... Or how to get even "50%" efficiency out of a motor??

Naysayers will always try to denigrate these methods, but they do work; each in their own way and level of effect which is dependent on many factors:

Hydroxy
GEET-style fuel cracking
Leaning Combustion & Vaporizing fuel
Disturbing Air Flow
Plasma Spark
Fuel Additives

And possibly several other methods with less data to back them yet.

We can try to get some better efficiency going, and stop the oil corps from cheating us a little bit, but the ultimate answer is to junk the ICE for a newer and much better solution.

120 years is long enough

[rosco1]

Interesting plug leads.

[QUOTE=ewizard;82872] You only need so much spark to ignite the gas under compression so I don't think this is necessarily a guarantee that these will offer better performance. QUOTE]

By presenting the spark plug with a big fat spark, you're rewarded with a big fat flame kernel, enabling you to ignite more of the A/F mixture from the very instant of ignition. Faster flame fronts burn more fuel than would ordinarily be the case.

Try to view it as a similar scenario to adding a bigger coil, or a CDI unit, you certainly do get more spark at the plug, hence why everyone chasing more bang for their buck opts to go that way.

You really do have to see it with your own 2 eyes before you can appreciate it.

I've tested this type of plug lead myself, and they do work. No question.

Moose 53 took it much further than I did, but his plug lead design targets plasma, not spark, and I believe his design delivers about 40% more plasma energy at the plug than a Kiker lead can.

I can't say more on Moose 53's Thunderstick as it's still under development, thus he may wish to patent it sometime.

[ewizard]

I for sure don't want to be a naysayer on anything that can help the planet and get better gas mileage. I have been around a long while and have seen so many gizmo's promise better mileage over the years that when it comes to improving gas mileage I think 98% are scams more or less. It's one of those things that has huge appeal to everyone (even more so I think than free energy for the home as most people just don't think it's possible ) because they think they should be able to get better mileage. I do believe there are ways of getting way better mileage but most I've seen just don't work. I've even tried a few myself.

Part of the problem with cars in the past 25+ years or so is the computer in them will not let you get better mileage unless it is bypassed or a replacement is put in the vehicle. When I was a lot younger I was in an economy run and took 3rd place - all because of tactics I used driving during the run. Just driving differently than most people can save you more than 10%. I'm all for encouraging people who want to try making their own devices (including the kiker devices) but I would really hesitate to recommend to anyone to buy them at the price they are asking. Another consideration is that most newer cars have very little space in the engine compartment and I'd say both types of replacements have potential dangers involved if they short out to ground. Be careful with these. I would be interested in hearing any carefully done comparison tests. Anyone who has done MPG tests will know there are a huge number of factors that can influence the outcome including traffic conditions, weather, whether you are comparing an exact same trip or to another location since small inclines can have a large effect on mileage, time of day, day or night driving and the list goes on. I used to have a car that had a mileage computer built in which would show the MPG at any one moment. It was very telling of how different situations can effect MPG. Good luck with your efforts.