Harvey Kiker | Kiker Performance Products

[jibbguy]

PVDF Sensors would prove it one way or another

Hmm if you are really interested in seeing if the engine is smoother or not, there are these cheap flat mylar-enclosed piezo electric strips called PVDF's that are used as AC "strain gages" in that they show vibration and pressure changes but not actual pressure. They produce their own excitation and signal voltage simply from movement and need no bias current. Tape one end to the motor mount and the other to the engine with a little bend in between and read directly with a scope (measuring the amplitude and F of the AC spikes of the PVDF's output signal), with the copper coil installed and without, and it would quickly tell you for sure if the engine is smoother or not.

My old Customers used these in the past to measure large electric motor and drive vibrations, and even to record the shock and vibration on crates or boxes being transported by truck or rail. They are worthless for measuring direct / absolute pressures (being AC coupled), but they are cool little toys nonetheless Their output is usually several volts (ive seen them put out as much as 15V).

Here's just one place to get them: Ktech's Applied Physics - PVDF Shock Sensors

[Aaron]

plug coils

Thanks. There are a few minor kinks though but if it works by magnetic field as claimed, that wouldn't make a difference.

I'd like to do the plug ones or I might just buy them.

[rickoff]

Re: coil winding

Hi Aaron,

It is interesting to hear that changing the winding direction to counter-clockwise, as per the Kiker patent diagrams, appeared to work as well as - but not better than - the clockwise windings that you tried earlier. You would think that Harvey Kiker chose the counter-clockwise method for a good reason, but we can't see what that reason is. Perhaps the winding direction is more important with the spark tubes, and so he later made the battery cables up to match and not present a conflict.

Do you feel that the performance is as good as, or better than, when you simply had the magnets installed?

I finally heard back from the Kikers regarding my inquiry. They say that they haven't made up any spark tube or battery cable sets for a Prius yet, so can't offer me any performance data. That's too bad, as I really would have been interested in seeing some test results before making the investment. If you can see a verifiable mpg gain, then I will probably build a battery cable and test it out. Let me know your actual results when you are able to calculate that.

Thanks,

Rick

[Ozicell]

Battery coil

Thanks. There are a few minor kinks though but if it works by magnetic field as claimed, that wouldn't make a difference.

I'd like to do the plug ones or I might just buy them.

The pics I sent through earlier were useless as they shorted far too much. I made up another set insulating to the hilt and I still am getting shorts, there certainly is heaps of power goingthrough these babies! I have had a response from Harvey as well and if I can't get it right, I am thinking of putting an order in as well, my ball plugs need as much energy as I can give them. BTW the battery coil is the only one I still have to tackle and may do so tomorrow.

Cheers
Jeff

[Aaron]

battery coil benefits

Hi Rick,

I think it is better with the magnets because with the magnets, I told the difference so it seemed to be above and beyond just the magnets. I took the magnets off so I could just see if there was a difference with the battery coil. When removing the magnets, I didn't notice any decrease in the apparent smoothness.

I have had the efie circuit the last 1/2 tank...on 1/4 tank now and installed it at 3/4 tank....battery coil around the same time. So whatever improvement in mileage will be one or both of them.

[rickoff]

Reply to Aaron

Hi Aaron,

With both additions done at the same time I guess that won't tell us very much about the improvement from the battery cable. After getting your current results, perhaps you could reconnect the old battery cable for a hundred miles at your next fuel-up to see if mileage and/or performance decreases. I'll be heading up to my cottage in the morning to spend a week there, but will try to stay in touch at the forums.

Best, Rick

[Ozicell]

Reply to Golden from Ball plug thread

I have been asked what my insulation is that I am still getting shorts. Firstly, these leads are made to the specification on the latest patent i.e. the copper tube has another copper wire coil wrapped around it with 11 winds and 33 winds.

Ok, tube and copper wire is first covered with heat shrink, this is then wrapped at about 4-5inches from one end around a 3/8 post five times to give the coil as per instructions. Both ends and then covered with rubber vacuum hose and the coil triple heat shrink covered. The ends are connected and the whole length from boot to boot is then covered with another two layers of heat shrink. To all intense and purposes they doesn't short until I start driving. Then it goes like a hairy goat - not good!

BTW, when doing tests on the ball plug, the kikers definitely produce a stronger effect so I wish I could get it right. I have a friend who is an electrical engineer who looked at them, he told me he'd send me some HV insulation, I hope it works.


Cheers
Jeff

[Aaron]

insulation

Plastidip might be a good thing to dip them in for insulation and protection. Also, if they're going to be rigid and not re-bent, super corona dope might be good.

[blahblah]

Ozi

Yeah if you used normal heat shrink it is only good for medium-lower voltage apps...however you put quite a few layers on there ...u gave it a good go!

High Voltage Heat Shrink is available for HV Bus Bars etc

example Heavy wall antitracking HV halogen free high voltage bus bar heat shrink tubing | Thermal Memory Ltd. says 36KV

...sounds like thats what you might be getting from your EE friend...your on the right track
Good Job !

[Ozicell]

New video

Hi guys,

I was mucking around with that coil spark jump effect - which I have since realised, is actually the bench spark jump effect, when I noticed that the spark from the coil was a LOT fatter than the spark from bench to dizzy. My coil lead is half standard and half kiker and the lead I was using from the bench gap to the dizzy was standard. So I decided to change that lead to one of my Kiker type replications to see if there was a difference. There was!! So I made a video for your consideration and enjoyment.
Kikers kick........!

YouTube - Homemade Kiker type lead v standard lead

Cheers
Jeff

[revizal]

Kiker comparation

Hi guys,

I was mucking around with that coil spark jump effect - which I have since realised, is actually the bench spark jump effect, when I noticed that the spark from the coil was a LOT fatter than the spark from bench to dizzy. My coil lead is half standard and half kiker and the lead I was using from the bench gap to the dizzy was standard. So I decided to change that lead to one of my Kiker type replications to see if there was a difference. There was!! So I made a video for your consideration and enjoyment.
Kikers kick........!

YouTube - Homemade Kiker type lead v standard lead

Cheers
Jeff

Hi Jeff. Very interesting experiment.
It was not so clear on your video which one the standard lead and the homemade kiker lead. The first or the 2nd one ?

Thank you and regard,
Rev.

[blahblah]

Hi Rev, Ozi

Yeah I reckon I can see a definite brightness increases between the two arc's.

Thx for sharing Ozi.! have yo got your new insulation on there yet ?

Nice work!

[Ozicell]

Hi Jeff. Very interesting experiment.
It was not so clear on your video which one the standard lead and the homemade kiker lead. The first or the 2nd one ?

Thank you and regard,
Rev.

2nd one Rev!

Cheers

[Ozicell]

Hi Rev, Ozi

Yeah I reckon I can see a definite brightness increases between the two arc's.

Thx for sharing Ozi.! have yo got your new insulation on there yet ?

Nice work!

Thanks Blah and no I haven't, I just made sure that they were clear of any possibilty of shorting. Actually, I am not that sure it's the leads. As I am currently running with std coil and points, it may be that the points are just not up to the extra load!

Cheers

[revizal]

Kiker application

Last week I replicated a Kiker like battery cable booster with 1/4 inch copper tubing. This 5 wounds cable booster used on Nissan Terrano 2400 cc gasoline engine. After near 700 km I got increasing mileage 1 km per-liter gasoline avarage, because I used the car in city and high way. Later, I will post the picture of my kiker booster.

Rev.