Ball Spark Plug

[Ozicell]

Compressed Air

Can simple air be pressurized into a chamber instead of nitrogen? What if I fixed a tire valve into the side of some pipe and pressurized a chamber with a simple air compressor?

Absolutely and easily done, however, until I know more about what is happening I am using nitrogen which is inert! Compressed air has all sorts of gasses in it which may explode. Of course while that would be great, at the moment with my set up, it would also be very dangerous. But it is on my list of things to try and I will report as results come in.

Cheers
Jeff

[Ozicell]

Thanks for posting the video. What is actually going on in this experiment? From what I see, it looks like you are using compressed nitrogen gas to create a bigger spark (which consumes nitrogen) I'd like to see the same effect with compressed air. Is it possible?

Nitrogen is inert in itself, that's why it's used in this sort of test so I don't believe that it is being consumed.

Compressed air is on the to do list after I have done a few more tests.

Cheers
Jeff

[rosco1]

Sleep?

I had a terrible night myself, and if you don't mind, I'll blame you for that! hehe.

It's quite difficult to put this stuff aside once you get so heavily involved in it.

I'm dazed right now, so I'll be ruminating for much of the day, looking at what happens from here.

I have a carburetter service close by, and they've been very helpful in modifying carburetters for me in the past, so I might swing past there and see if I can have a carb modified to vapourise water.

These people know their stuff, and are open to ideas, which is rare these days. I can already see the look on their faces when I put this request to them. Should be good for a giggle.

What carby do you have on that car? I'll report as to their recommendations.

[Ozicell]

Carbie

I had a terrible night myself, and if you don't mind, I'll blame you for that! hehe.

It's quite difficult to put this stuff aside once you get so heavily involved in it.

I'm dazed right now, so I'll be ruminating for much of the day, looking at what happens from here.

I have a carburetter service close by, and they've been very helpful in modifying carburetters for me in the past, so I might swing past there and see if I can have a carb modified to vapourise water.

These people know their stuff, and are open to ideas, which is rare these days. I can already see the look on their faces when I put this request to them. Should be good for a giggle.

What carby do you have on that car? I'll report as to their recommendations.

Just the standard Mazda Carbie. BTW tried some water with a bit compressed air blowing over the plug. Nothing much happened just an occasional airial spark which could be something in the air!

I was thinking, the greater the pressure it seems the greater the effect. My motor probably only attains around 180psi TDC but the percussion of the explosion would be far higher - so - if I can prolong the spark well into the explosion, maybe we will get the effect we are looking. eg. a little hydroxy, a little mist or vapour and maybe a smell of petrol and .............. yet to be tried but think tanking this whole thing is great!

Cheers
Jeff

[rosco1]

Mazda

Just the standard Mazda Carbie. BTW tried some water with a bit compressed air blowing over the plug. Nothing much happened just an occasional airial spark which could be something in the air!

I was thinking, the greater the pressure it seems the greater the effect. My motor probably only attains around 180psi TDC but the percussion of the explosion would be far higher - so - if I can prolong the spark well into the explosion, maybe we will get the effect we are looking. eg. a little hydroxy, a little mist or vapour and maybe a smell of petrol and .............. yet to be tried but think tanking this whole thing is great!

Cheers
Jeff

I'm wondering if your current distributor and coil are suited to the task.

Is it a HEI, electronic ignition?

What year Mazda? We need as much info as possible.

[Ozicell]

Mazda Info

I'm wondering if your current distributor and coil are suited to the task.

Is it a HEI, electronic ignition?

What year Mazda? We need as much info as possible.

You may be correct. The motor is from 1988, 2.2l unleaded. Carbie and dissy, no computer, very basic.

Now should I be looking at beefing the system abit? Do you know if I can fit a CDI or does that r equire a computer? What about a spark multiplier? I think there is such a thing, the spark fires several times rather than once per cycle - I think! Again, if it exists, would it be suitable or is the motor too basic. Recently had a compression test done and was told it was all good.

Anyway, what are your thoughts?

Jeff

[Ozicell]

Mazda Info

BTW it is a dual cab ute.

[rosco1]

Doesn't help

BTW it is a dual cab ute.

Unclip the distributor cap and take a look at the workings beneath the rotor button, if it has "points" then you will see the contact point assembly, which activates off a lobe on the distributor shaft.

Electronic distributors usually have a metal multi point(like a star) type wheel attached to the shaft.

Pop the cap and take a pic, then we can see what it is.

[Ozicell]

Points

Unclip the distributor cap and take a look at the workings beneath the rotor button, if it has "points" then you will see the contact point assembly, which activates off a lobe on the distributor shaft.

Electronic distributors usually have a metal multi point(like a star) type wheel attached to the shaft.

Pop the cap and take a pic, then we can see what it is.

Sorry Rosco, I should have told you that - it's a points system.

[rosco1]

Unreal!

Sorry Rosco, I should have told you that - it's a points system.

That makes this finding even more amazing.....

I never thought it was even possible to achieve the effect you did with a points system.

An suitable electronic distributor and coil should be the first thing on your shopping list, with a suitable power feed wire to the distributor, around the 30 amp area. You'll then be able to open the gap on the plug to about 1.5mm.

Substantial gains are made by using electronic ignition over the old points systems, and the effect you'll achieve by doing this will probably fill that pressure bell with that crazy plasma, so, if you were happy with the result you had before, then I expect you'll be delirious with a more modern system.

Hunt around, you should be able to acquire a decent electronic set up for less than $100.

The fact that you achieved what you did with a points system, to be honest, is alarming. I'm sure this revelation will be causing everyone else to reel as well.

[Tishatang]

State of the art CDI

Hi Ozicell and All

Here is a custom state of the art CDI. The attached pdf shows you how to make it. It is capable of ten multiple sparks in succession per firing. I think just what we need with water, keep hitting it. I would like one for my old Toyota truck. But it is beyond my ability in electronics to build.

cap-dis-ignit-cdi.pdf

Tishatang
Chris

[blahblah]

This looks like the unit that can be bought in Australia from Dick Smiths ..in Kit form..its about 25 bucks

High Energy Ignition (K3303) - Dick Smith Electronics - Australia.

[dubsta]

Ozi,

Did you use a NON Resistor Spark plug?

[rosco1]

Plug type used?

Ozi,

Did you use a NON Resistor Spark plug?

I may be wrong here, but I believe Ozi mentioned elsewhere(yahoo) that he modified a Pulstar plug in this instance. Pulstar is a resistor type plug.

Firestorm is a non resistor type plug, so again, the findings made by Ozi are important, and we need to look at this more closely.

While I believe a non resistor plug would give an even better performance when fired by a Kiker wire, is there something else going on with the Pulstar design that we should know about?

Given that the ignition Ozi used was a basic(weak) points system, and his replication may be a cross between a Firestorm and a Pulstar, care needs to be taken to digest what this all means.

[Ozicell]

Comments and answers

Sorry Guys, yesterday I left at 4 am for a 1700klm round journey by car. After a short break of 2.5 hours, I returned home at 2.30am this morning, hence I was not near a PC to comment and answer.

Rosco - I am going to give the CDI a go before I change anything else but probably will look at electronic soon. The secret seems to be in the higher pressure zones. What I am looking at is prolonging the spark well into the detonation, at this point the pressure would immense and the resultant plasma should effectively burn anything that may not have been burned in the detonation including water vapour.

Thanks Chris & Blah, I have already put my order in for the CDI from DSE and am awaiting delivery early next week.

Dubsta, the plug in the video is NON resistor, I have converted a pulstar plug as well as the chamber and am hoping to have both testing at the same time to see the differences. I can already tell you that the pulstar does seem stronger but they are VERY fragile.

Very tired tonight, so I probably will give testing a miss but will post as soon as I have something new to report.

Cheers Guys

Jeff