Ball Spark Plug

[dubsta]

How hard is it to convert a Resistor styel plug to a NON resistor style plug?

I think there is some material inside the plug which can be removed but wouldn't you end up breaking the plug rendering it useless by attempting this?

The reason I ask is that NON resistor style plugs tend to be harder to come by these days and event harder to source to match the vehicles application.
Figure modificating a OEM plug by removing the Resistor would be the easiest way to start testing.

[Ozicell]

Non Resistor v Resistor

How hard is it to convert a Resistor styel plug to a NON resistor style plug?

I think there is some material inside the plug which can be removed but wouldn't you end up breaking the plug rendering it useless by attempting this?

The reason I ask is that NON resistor style plugs tend to be harder to come by these days and event harder to source to match the vehicles application.
Figure modificating a OEM plug by removing the Resistor would be the easiest way to start testing.

Hi Dub,

Somewhere there is a youtube on it that I have seen, so yes, it can be done as a last resort!

[goldenequity]

Krupa Interview

Greetings Ozicell

A few things to add to this valuable thread:

Here is a June 2, 2008 interview with Robert Krupa / Firestorm ball plug
Internet Radio, Citizen Broadcasting, Social Media Podcasts - Blog Talk Radio

Excellent interview and provides some key points of interest for all of us...

1. He found that his plug will cool off the exhaust temperature
2. This happens despite his leaning out the fuel/air ratio to more than 30:1 (breaks all the rules saying leaning will melt your pistons!)
3. It happens because of the plasma vs. normal spark allowing the burning of the fuel beyond the carbon molecule into the hydrogen combustion as well (w/o ADDING water.... using the H2 that's already present in gasoline & air.
4. He has patented an improved design.
5. New design is "ball to ball" and reflects Tesla theory.... so both pos. and neg. are now spheres.
6. He is negotiating production rights with a Brazilian manufacturer currently.

Exciting stuff!

Oxicell--- a few questions:

Can you show a still photo of your sparkplug?
Can you describe how you made plug so the rest of us can replicate your method and materials?
Can you further modify to include a "ball to ball" design and report results?

Looking forward to exciting progress with all of this.

[Aaron]

Firestorm Ignitron Plasma Plugs by Robert Krupa

Thanks for posting the interview. Here are a few keypoints I got from it:

30:1 is where in "nanoseconds" carbon based fuel transmutes into hydrogen based fuel.

Robert Krupa had someone with a laptop hooked to the ALDL (Assembly Line Diagnostic Link) and changed the air:fuel mixture.

It sounds like the ALDL is the same jack as the OBD jack under the dashboard.

So the new plug has 2 balls - one for positive and one for negative...instead of the ball center and wire loop ground. I can't find a picture of it.

He is using something like MSD or Crane Cam Ignition System. Close to 1 joule of power with Crane Cam ignition system. Required to go from a "piddly spark to a flame."

[Ozicell]

Interview

Greetings Ozicell

A few things to add to this valuable thread:

Here is a June 2, 2008 interview with Robert Krupa / Firestorm ball plug
Internet Radio, Citizen Broadcasting, Social Media Podcasts - Blog Talk Radio

Excellent interview and provides some key points of interest for all of us...

1. He found that his plug will cool off the exhaust temperature
2. This happens despite his leaning out the fuel/air ratio to more than 30:1 (breaks all the rules saying leaning will melt your pistons!)
3. It happens because of the plasma vs. normal spark allowing the burning of the fuel beyond the carbon molecule into the hydrogen combustion as well (w/o ADDING water.... using the H2 that's already present in gasoline & air.
4. He has patented an improved design.
5. New design is "ball to ball" and reflects Tesla theory.... so both pos. and neg. are now spheres.
6. He is negotiating production rights with a Brazilian manufacturer currently.

Exciting stuff!

Oxicell--- a few questions:

Can you show a still photo of your sparkplug?
Can you describe how you made plug so the rest of us can replicate your method and materials?
Can you further modify to include a "ball to ball" design and report results?

Looking forward to exciting progress with all of this.

I am really interested in this intrview, I have tried before to open it and again today but all I get is a message saying that the show will start after a short message then nothing - no message no show!

Ball to ball I can only imagine it's like another version where I tried creating a ball out of mesh but so far haven't got too far with it. I am assuming that it's one sphere inside the other, is there any info on it anywhere? Maybe a patent discription?

Thanks for the info and please, if you can help me open it - that would be great.

Making, my plug is easy but fiddly. and at this stage I don't have any that are completed that I would put in the motor but by the end of this week it should be all go. BTW if it helps, the ball is a 316 SS ball which is already drilled and tapped for body piercing. The cage is 1.2mm 316 SS sheet water jet cut into any shape you desire. I made my own die for bending it to shaped out of aluminium because that's what I had available and it seems to work well.

I hope this helps.

Cheers
Jeff

[goldenequity]

Download

Ok Jeff... see if this works for you.

http://www.ronpaulaudio.com/public/K...Plug060208.mp3

great idea using a SS "piercing" ball (threaded no less!)
what if it's 2 complete and/or identical balls separated by a gap?

O
O

[Ozicell]

Interview

Ok Jeff... see if this works for you.

http://www.ronpaulaudio.com/public/K...Plug060208.mp3

great idea using a SS "piercing" ball (threaded no less!)
what if it's 2 complete and/or identical balls separated by a gap?

O
O

Whatever it is, I'll give it a go making it.

BTW it was my personal firewall stopping me. I had heard the interview before and there is nothing clear about the new design so I gues we will have to wait.

It's given me an idea though which I am going to try. I'll post on youtube as available.

Cheers

[Ozicell]

Piston clearance

I don't know if anyone is interested but I just posted a video show piston/plug clearance at TDC.

YouTube - Ball Spark Plug Piston Clearance

Clearance is all good

[goldenequity]

Mushroom?

Krupa mentions "mushroomed" surfaces...
perhaps this setup would still allow a sphere dimension to the design,
but respect the practical tolerances restrained by piston/valves.

plug2.jpg

[xbox hacker]

I am really interested in this intrview, I have tried before to open it and again today but all I get is a message saying that the show will start after a short message then nothing - no message no show!

Ball to ball I can only imagine it's like another version where I tried creating a ball out of mesh but so far haven't got too far with it. I am assuming that it's one sphere inside the other, is there any info on it anywhere? Maybe a patent discription?

Thanks for the info and please, if you can help me open it - that would be great.

Making, my plug is easy but fiddly. and at this stage I don't have any that are completed that I would put in the motor but by the end of this week it should be all go. BTW if it helps, the ball is a 316 SS ball which is already drilled and tapped for body piercing. The cage is 1.2mm 316 SS sheet water jet cut into any shape you desire. I made my own die for bending it to shaped out of aluminium because that's what I had available and it seems to work well.

I hope this helps.

Cheers
Jeff

Hey Jeff,how did you attach the SS ball to the electrode of the plug?

[Ozicell]

Electrode

Hey Jeff,how did you attach the SS ball to the electrode of the plug?

Simple, I got a button die, threaded the electrode and just screwed it on!

Cheers

[Ozicell]

Ball to ball

Krupa mentions "mushroomed" surfaces...
perhaps this setup would still allow a sphere dimension to the design,
but respect the practical tolerances restrained by piston/valves.

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I thought about this or something similar but can't see why it would be different to a standard set up - the spark will always find the point of least resistance which would be the closest point, whereas, sphere inside sphere the spark is always finding new paths! Sort of like a plasma ball.

[xbox hacker]

Simple, I got a button die, threaded the electrode and just screwed it on!

Cheers

Thanx mate! Thats what i thought. Do you have any thoughts on a "thread lock" material that will last under those conditions?

[goldenequity]

body piercing plugs

I see your point.... and now understand your "ball of mesh" attempt and
why you were going in that direction.
What you did and how you did it is awesome .... and it freakin worked!

Glad to see xbox here.... he and Capacitor70 have built a plasma circuit with
some real punch using regular plugs....

your "body piercing plug" idea (thank you! ) is definitely going to catch on and be replicated/integrated to more benchtop testing worldwide.

nice contribution Jeff.

[xbox hacker]

Looks like i am going to have to take out one of my piercings to make this happen...LOL