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Bah!! I look and I look, and I cannot find the error. I guess that means I'm perfect!
Oh, it was some stupid conceptual statement on magnetism as I recall. Just off. Easy to read right over until you get experimenting on it. Well, if you go down a wrong turn with one sentence in there somewhere and find yourself beating your head on a wall ....I did warn you at least! Sorry, but I can't stand to read my own writing much anymore. Too long-winded. Too gravitationally orgasmic to meet you dudes as a fellow nutjob.
This is about as I have been viewing things to date. Could be off..
Similiar to Broli's post on the other thread, Magnetic Monopoles Arise When Magnets Repel Each Other...
In the top half of my notes, I consider the typical solenoid coil with current in one direction. Consider its field and the vortice that is normal. I consider the B (magnetic) vector.
With a change in EMF and current pumped through, we get EMF which is also reverse current. And so, I theorize that there must also exist a reverse field, flux, and vortice that we normally do not examine. That this would become the opposite of normal shape and polarity. At the Zero Point, North/ South poles would reverse. Here is where energy is drawn through the vacuum in typical back EMF coils.
So, to the right of the page, I envision what the reversing fields and vortices might look like. I think you would have the conventional field superimposed with the back EMF field. The conventional B vector superimposed with the back EMF B vector. Here, North magnetic face to North magnetic face. Standard repulsion configuration. And so, there is a bulging of the field in perpendicular, cross product fashion. Instead of electromagnetic radiation being E X B, we now have B X G...perhaps. Electromagnetic radiation transformed to magnetogravitic radiation. Electromagnetic waves to magnetogravitic waves. As there is a positive and negative view to electrical current, we know there is a positive and negative view to magnetism, and so also there should be a positive and negative view to gravity. However, at the Zero Point, all these should be in monopole form due to their repulsion stacking or vortice connections.
I see the 2 magnetic monopoles and waves of Leedskalnin. I see probably 2 gravitational monopoles and waves. And also the electric current monopoles and waves. All intersected at zero. It is magnetic charge; Also gravitic charge; and seems to be still symmetrical charge. But, if you increase electric power, you'll have heating of the coils coinciding magnetic force. Some energy being lost to heat and hysteresis, the magnetic forces become asymmetric, and should result in asymmetric charge of the whole system....resulting in gravitational asymmetry or Lift/ Propulsion/ Acceleration. Maybe?!!! Bah!! I dunno. I just pulled it out of my kazoo tonight.
On the bottom half is a quickie sketch of what I've been thinking about in regard to Leedskalnin's magnetic current radio station. Carrier Wave, Compass Wave, Bell Wave. Magnetic current of the Earth somehow pumped through his generator. Steel chain as the magnetic current conductors. Magnetic pickups. Maybe something to do with the water in the generator at the center of the perfect, pyramid inductor setup of his geometry. Receiver tripod. Chain conductor again to his tree branch. Maybe some sort of coil wrap around each stone. Maybe just dumping magnetized water atop the coil and away the stones go...
But, I dunno. Something seems fishy and off to that water speculation. I'm wondering if he used it as a conductor/ electrolyte between any coil wrap of the stone. Not sure. Something feels amiss. Everything else feels right. The issue of intersecting waves and their shape -- along with their zero points -- at least feels good.
If you look at Ed's stones and carvings, they don't appear to have chisel marks. There do appear to be water or acid-like burns, as best I can tell from photos. Water we know is magnetic and will tend to hold a magnetic charge. I'm wondering if he imprinted the water with his magnetic waves, and so, when in contact with the other waves, it would tend to lead to a Hutchison Effect lifting or fusing and breakdown of material. Maybe something like that. I dunno. Still happily stumped by Ed.
FLUX DENSITY
1,000,000 mu (Superpermalloy)
10,000 turns per coil
10 amp, 30 gauge (very near fusing current)
Round core
6,580 Gauss zero point (A relative vacuum)
27,000 Gauss (green)
20,000 Gauss (baby blue)
10,000 Gauss (blue)
Interestingly enough, the mathematics for this model shows 12 pounds of magnetic force in the Y (upward) direction while force in the horizontal is 235 lbs. But, when you lock that energy down through rigidity of the toroid, it will translate more toward the open Y vector (>12 lbs lift). This is best done at optimum pulsed frequencies, however.
The Hospitaller Cross is oddly found in toroids!
Eight (sideways as the symbol for Infinity) is also a mathematical basis of the universe. Eights in Octonian mathematics. Eights in String Theory. Eights are a foundaitonal thing. Again, why all design geometry works best, most efficient, and in harmony with nature when we specify our dimensions and engineering traits in harmonic fashion.
My humble contribution to this conversation is the following.
I made a toriod, 32 wraps or so on ferrite.
I also made a little kit that helps me measure
inductance. Yup the toroid is an inductor. Not mystery.
Stan Deyo wants not toroids on the cake, but
toroids with an air gap -- so that they become toroidal
horse-shoe magnets.
I made one of those too and tried to measure its inductance.
Zip -- NADA -- nothing. My meter failed to measure it.
Next experiment. Put the toroid over a compass and just
pulse it with a 9v battery. You can make compass spin if you
time it right... but its not dramatic.
Now place your horse-shoe torroid, with air gap in coil,
over compass. Pulse it with 9v battery ... WOW ... dramatic
spin of compass.
So yes, horse-shoe is important here. A full on closed-torroid
only moves the compass slightly due to imperfections in the
winding were the b-field is slightly strong in one place than
the other ... whereas a horse-shoe will definitely move the compass
ala electro-magnetc.
I saw Deyo's vids a few months back and was highly impressed.
The floating coke drop demonstration was quite impressive in my eyes.
One thing I think we should remember here, as he talked about the coke experiment he said the drop appeared at resonance.
I am currently working on Stan Meyers work, and I know that in his work, as well as Tesla's and others, resonance was a key factor for it allows the greatest energy flow with the least opposing resistance.
Also keep in mind, as I have learned in Stan Meyers work, His VIC is a dual L circuit charging the cap at opposite pulse times of 50% duty cycle, so the end result is that the water molecule never has a relaxation period, this achieves the highest efficiency.
Perhaps this principle is also used in Stan Deyo's saucer-inductor-plate. After all, if the magnetic fields are what creates the counter gravity, a constantly produced magnetic field would be much more powerful than a pulsed magnetic field!
Aromaz & SL3, you two guys have the type of intelligence I hope to have some day. Can you tell me how you have learned all you know? Books, college, etc?
Saw Stan Deyo's video too. Very good stuff.
One thing that bothers me is that Mr. Deyo seems to have
great anti-gravity knowledge, but not very much
knowledge about how to create these over-unity energy machines.
You would think that for any of his craft to work, they would
need a pretty esoteric power system ... and so why
isn't Stan more forth coming with how to make power?
You would think that the #1 emergency preparedness HINT
that Stan could provide all of us would have to do with power -- so
important for fresh water, food production, health, etc.
Making something levitate on a kitchen table would be fun
but making 30Kwatts for my own personal home needs would
be BRILLIANT!
I would hope that Stan Deyo would want to see all of us
get off the single-point-of-failure GRID system and become
more self sufficient so that we can protect ourselves from those
who would hoax an alien invasion for political gain.
Im building a disc like shown in the video. Have a few more "horse-shoe" coils to make before I can start experiment with it with diffrent DC signal. the problem I see as the bigest is what should be the signal strength, like Volts and Amps.
Ill see if I can upload a picture later when its ready to be experimented with.
Im building a disc like shown in the video. Have a few more "horse-shoe" coils to make before I can start experiment with it with diffrent DC signal. the problem I see as the bigest is what should be the signal strength, like Volts and Amps.
Ill see if I can upload a picture later when its ready to be experimented with.
I think your attitude should be one of attempting to see an effect only.
Once something is observable, then you can roll up your sleeves and study what is going on .. and attempt to refine your design to optimize what is occurring.
If it bounces off the table just a bit -- like Boyd Bushman's coil YouTube - UFO-Electromagnetic Levitation Demonstration
that would be cool.
In the patent application the anti gravity is explained quite well and equations are given as well as a few drawings. The applicat explained the device as follows:
BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION:
"The idea from this invention comes from experiments I have done using thin transformer laminations wound in intervals with bobbins of wire connected to a frequency generator. Pulsing the bobbins elelctrically creates a slow traveling magnetic wave along the surface of the lamination. The velocity of the wave, as shown by hammond in the reference paper, is the square root of the frequency divided by the conductivity and permeability of the material. From Einstein's General Theory Of Relativity, this type of wave around the circumference creates a spacetime curvature in the vertical direction that looks like a tiled plate. The magnetic field traveling around the circumference has to follow this curvature. This creates a magnetic gradient in the Z
direction which together with the magnetic moment developed by the solenoid produces lift on the vehicle."
From the wave velocity equation explained above, I realized that in Deyo's video he said (the 30Ft craft) coils core was made of Mu-metal which has a very high inductance. And per the equation explained above the higher the inductance and the higher the conductivity the slower the wave velocity is. I also noticed on some youtube vids people explained that the rodin coils produced the greatest effects at low frequencies around 1-6Hz if I remember right....???
I'm just delving into counter (anti) gravity, but am extermly interested and this along with Deyo's vids seem like a good place to start.
I find it interesting that the patent application refers the device as a MAGNETIC VORTEX GENERATOR!
Another interesting sentence from the application: "The lift force on the vehicle is equal to a magnetic moment times the magnetic field gradient"
Everyone check it out and share your ideas/thoughts?
You are likely all more aware of this than I am, but Marko Rodin is intending to investigate application of his Rodin Coil as a thruster for space travel.
Strong Magnetic vortex action through its center seems well established.
It seems unlikely to me that the basic design now tested by various people will be sufficient for take-off just by pulsing it with lots of power, but the cris-cross winding of his coils following numerical geometry might have some role in cancelling out the aether inertia as referenced above.
Small eureka-moment or just a silly brainfart :
What if not the electrical power, but MASS should be spiraling the toroid, rather than the simple high-speed spin of superliquid inside a toroid as proposed so often elsewhere? Liquid in counter-wound tubes together making of a toroid would be flowing spirally, loosely based on Rodin's theories meaning with minimal resistance, electrically.
I'll leave to you which, if any, odd effects such a device could display.
Also, I just got the idea : what if mass and electrical current would flow against each other, either through the same tube, or adjacent?
So much reading to do before I can event theorize on the silly setups racing through my mind... Can imagine Tesla went mad, as he actually knew what he was thinking.
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SNOW'S LAW -- This is actually an oversimplification but the Poynting Vector model for the quanta should be revised from E X B to E X B X G! Not just that but E X B X G X S X T X ?...X to Infinity! S = Space; T = Time. ?1, ?2, etc. to infinity = remaining unknown fundamental forces. In the Right Hand Rule of electromagnetics, you're probably well familiar with E X B in coils, right? At 90 degrees planar is the Gravitic (G). Simple as that. There are more complex forms you can set up in Octonians, but I like it simple. For starters, [the] Hutchison Effect would have been much more efficient [with] aimed [---] coils at each other rather than just straight up. Maybe [---] did that? I dunno. [-----] did some pretty wild things there, but not as wild had [-----] been slamming together magnetic forces more efficiently.
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Acoustic Levitation (like [Hutchison] demonstrated with [his] piezos) also moves and shakes things along the Gravitic plane.
Here's the fun part I really wanted to share with you all (a report of wild levitation of great mass on relatively little wattage, though Leedskalnin was likely more efficient than this since he used almost no electricity and not the wattage of 100 monks):
I have a quack physician friend who told me an awesome story the other day because he knows of my interests in flying saucers and all that. In the 1960's, he was touring Tibet. One day, he was driving up a narrow mountain road when he felt this rumble like many trucks coming downhill, so he pulled over. Nothing. So he got out and walked around the bend to see what was up. Nothing. Puzzling. He followed the noise to the cliffside and gazed down upon a horseshoe formation of about 100 monks. In the center, they had granite stones of about 1 cubic meter. One set of monks were chanting a deep, low tone like "OM" continuously, no pausing, all from circular breathing. The other set (about half) were blowing horns; Also a deep, low, long-wave, continuous tone. The stone started to move. It levitated as the horn pitch went to higher frequency. The monks then went on to move the stone across a chasm by directing the horns. Then, as they lowered the frequency, the stone dropped. And they proceeded to move a total of six stones in less than an hour like that! Such defiance of gravity by monks is recorded in historical literature, and even on-line. Explorer accounts of watching monks bang a gong and levitate a stone on the side of a mountain among ceremonies, etc. But, there are no reports in public on what I just mentioned, though [---------].
Anyhow, thought I'd share that with you. If you think about it, the monks lifted a lot more weight, did more total work against gravity than [John Hutchison],and the human Wattage applied was probably much less than what [-----] were juicing [---------] coils with.
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* Sorry guys for the censorship. Also, when things are censored like that, it is easy to read into things, speculate, or whatever. Don't bother. It'll only take you in confusing directions. Just enjoy what I passed. Any other scrutiny and speculation will waste your time, but you may have some fun playing with those interfering frequencies. All you really need to have fun is one frequency generator (two and more if you want to shift phases and do stuff other than watch weight reduce), a couple transistors, DC power supply, and piezos or solenoid coils (for the magnetic stuff).
Overlaps with the nazi bell saucer tech and all that.
I also did 4 pages of math and physics in solution of the Boyd Bushman celt recently. Will post later. Relates to shape asymmetry of the celt and also shape asymmetry in eggs. Another issue you may want to play with there is how eggs and pine cones directly convert gravity to electricity! Following electron path in current loop formation along the spinning celt, you can see it as a coil. Then, when spinning or activating that coil in the other direction against the coil developed by gravity...you have the coil to coil, magnetic force to force creation of the zero point that you all know well from the various free energy systems. Simple as that to the mysterious celt, in my view. Now, if that torque applied resists gravity due to charge asymmetry, then all you need do is step up the charge asymmetry and torque....and away we go! Another means of levitation!
Did also several pages on the mathematical physics behind dowsing rods. Was my first time playing with them and seeing their reality. I observed a nose down (forward C.G.) condition with no water beneath; Aft C.G. and lifting of rod "nose" when over water (some sort of shielding effect that I first considered as water being a gravitational shield). As for why they rotate inward? Seems related mutual attraction / inductance or perhaps the nature of waves around them and seeking the null point. I later tested the gravity shielding of water by placing a brass weight on a scale and putting a water bowl beneath. Results? Nothing. Tried with other weight. Nothing. Sort of trashed my water-gravity shield there, but maybe not. Needs more work. Could be magnetic, but then we see non-magnetic dowser rods used -- plastic / wood. Therefore, either a diagmagnetism shield is the water or it is shielding something else that is pulling upon the centroid of the rods. Could be an issue of those rod lengths as antennae, too. I believe the answer also dwells somewhat in Leedskalnin's lessons on hanging bars in the magnetic field. Gotta review that some.
Anyhow....only thing I can say with certainty is that the rods go parallel and they cross certainly due to some form of pull and water shielded pull of the Earth upon the centroid of mass to each rod. Understanding that mystery better and its relation to water (a place of Casimir Effect shunt of energy from the Quantum Vacuum and its translation in many wave planes beyond our mere 4D world) may tell us then how to use the rods for propulsion of their centroid away from the Earth's!
* Related note: Hysteresis Effect in satellites. Long ago, I did about 4 blackboards full of math chasing a deep understanding of what was going on in Hysteresis Effect. Like the AMSAT satellite, we were using spinning iron rods and needed to model that better. How thick should they be? How long? How many? Too many or too little and not the right dimensions can mess up your satellite. So, I spent a lot of time thinking about the magnetic field of the Earth and iron rods rotating within that field which produces voltage and temperature increase. It's the core of what goes on in electric motors, too. Anyhow, Hysteresis is something that was likely going on in the Leedskalnin levitation. Probably with the monks, too. Certainly to faint degree with these soft steel coat hangar/ dowsing rods in the Earth's B field.
Water as a magnetic shield makes much more sense, since we know water is magnetic, but -- because other non-metallic rods are used -- I think further investigation will lead to interesting things. Solving great mysteries always does!
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