Energy transformed by a pyramid - Tomas Toerwang, aka Flavio Thomas

[energeist]

Hi All,

Did anybody hear of Thomas Thorwang, aka Flavio Thomas, the Austrian Guy, who "generated" about five volts without moving parts from a pyramid(about half a meter High)? He even tried to built a teaching forum with a step by step guide for others to replicate? A few weeks later this site was off the net. I saw it happening as I planned to replicate it!

He claimed in a later blog on another Forum - sorry, i cannot find the link in the moment- that his site got shut down, i.e. swamped! He said that earlier a major "austrian" electricity corporation tried to buy his patent(not sure if he got that far to get an actual patent for it) however he had in exchange to publicly announce that his pyramid voltage generation was a hoax! He declined and started his step by step forum, which then vanished from the surface.

This was about 3/4 of a year ago! Did anybody else see or hear of that also?

Here is the link to his video:
energy from a pyramid - Google Video

Does anybody have some thoughts on this?
Thanks,

Ro

[rick123]

I never heard of him, but it is interesting. I watched this recently witch is very similiar.

YouTube - The Secret of the Universe 1 of 6

[amigo]

I think there is a lengthy thread on the overunity dot com forum regarding his energy from the pyramid.

It's just one of those things on my "to-do" list to check out one of these days when I get around it...

[**~Imhotep~**]

I never heard of him, but it is interesting. I watched this recently witch is very similiar.

YouTube - The Secret of the Universe 1 of 6

i just saw the same vid and i have alot of thoughts i will be shareing in the future after i can prove them and replicate the results

[Doug]

good stuff rick

Great info on those videos Rick and some amazing math... whew!

Pyramids are amazing and I recommend building one. For next to nothing, you can do experiments and receive the benefits of better drinking water by making one out of 5/8" x 4' wooden dowel rods. The ratio you can use is 1' for a side of the base and 11.5" for the side of the walls - on a 4'x4' base set up, you would chop off 2" for the side rods. I used 1/2" copper elbow pipe pieces to join the base together and 1/8" thick solid copper wire to with four loops securing it several inches from the top and made brackets for each corner at the base.

When a side is facing north (not the corner) the magic happens. You can even charge glass containers of water for 24hrs and notice a difference - I reused Sobe glass bottles for that. Using divining rods, you will notice a charge as you hold them over the top or inside the pyramid. I was drinking so much pyrawater, I had 25 or more Sobe bottles being used. You should put them on a shoebox or something, the focal point of the energy is 1/3 of the height up from the bottom The kings chambers are all at that point in the Egyptian pyramids... hmmm...

I had a friend over once and she could see energy. Right, I know what you are saying , but.... She commented on the energy coming off of the pyramid. For fun, I did my own experiment and grabbed some empty Sobe's, put tap water in them! After many attempts to confuse her, the bottles looked the same, switching them around, then not, etc., etc. She didn't even hesitate saying which one was "charged" so I knew she wasn't guessing and was right every time! That was pretty cool.
Have fun with this if you want.
Thanks,
Doug

[Markus]

Thomas Trawöger

BTW, his name is Thomas Trawöger, and in some German speaking areas it's common to say the last name first (that's what he's doing in the video). In German (only, not true for French) the dots above the vowels are never dropped – if there are no umlauts available then an e is appended. That's why there is also the alternative spelling Trawoeger (the opposite is not necessarily true – oe cannot always be replaced by ö).

[energeist]

BTW, his name is Thomas Trawöger, and in some German speaking areas it's common to say the last name first (that's what he's doing in the video).... oe cannot always be replaced by ö).

Cheers Marcus, Trawoeger, you are right, I will keep that in mind! I wonder how he is. The reason why I am asking is that if geometry really can cause voltage all the aether guys seem to have a very valid point. Which again makes me ponder about what the hell space time actually is!
(check out "shad" about his oppinion of radiant energy, in the thread:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa....html#post2241, Imhotep if you have not done so yet, which I doubt, you will have a field day)

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one more though...
Dear Peter, Lighty, and all

I would like to add something to my last message and am curious to hear your opinion.
In my understanding the universe also is a universe of frequencies (broad band of frequencies). Each element is a frequency occupying a band width of space. Groups or combinations of elements can, as a unit, cover a broader band width of space.

The atom is a manifestation and is both positive and negative in character; therefore, space also has two basic properties that is, positive and negative.

Atom energy, or any other energy derived from changing the form or state of physical material, is energy taken from atomic structure.

With the right theory it is possible to tap energy in abundance from the driver of the atom (space energy) without taking it from atomic structure.

Atomic power with its penalty of contamination is not necessary, as the basic atomic energy can be tapped before it is material substance. Then there are no contaminations or harmful side effects, because nothing is destroyed and because the energy is only used, even as the wind is used by the windmill.

Radiant energy in my opinion is a result of distorted and nonlinear space and energy in common is a result of distorted space.

As example:
Magnetism is a distortion of space, a distortion within the atomic structure of the magnet material or copper coil which extends into the space surrounding it.

As an illustration, we consider an undistorted area of space before us. We move an activated magnet into this area of space and the result is that this previously undistorted and linear space is now. That is, two poles exist in relation to the magnet; an N pole and an S pole.

At the N pole we have a lack of S pole and at the S pole we have a lack of N pole. Or, at each end of the magnet, we have a lack of balanced space. In other words, distorted space, (a low pressure area) now exists at each pole.

Any non-polarized material within the band width of magnetism and electricity
(a paramagnetic material) will migrate to the low pressure area at either pole, while a polarized object (another magnet) will demonstrate the law of opposites attracting and similars repelling each other. The above theory of expansion and/or contraction holds true as cause of magnetism in all types of permanent magnets or electromagnets.

An inductive collapse of a coil, the so-called collapsing field could now be described as space returning back to linearity with a slap. That is the positive and the negative closing in from opposite directions and filling a rapidly diminishing area and then suddenly coming together; perhaps even bringing about a slight crossing of bands, or a short circuit of electric space which would be like a miniature bolt of lightning.
The collapsing field of an electromagnet is a distortion of ether/vacuum space which is elastic in his property and cause of the resulting mono-polar electrostatic charge.

In this way it is possible to tap energy in abundance from the driver of the atom (space energy) without taking it from atomic structure. This is why I like to describe the atom like a cosmic energy windmill.

Best of greetings,
Shad

[rosco1]

Focal points

When a side is facing north (not the corner) the magic happens.....

....the focal point of the energy is 1/3 of the height up from the bottom The kings chambers are all at that point in the Egyptian pyramids... hmmm...

Doug

Interesting indeed, I saw those videos the other day and I've been (strangely) drawn back to this topic and just can't leave it there for some reason. Plenty of weird thoughts arise.

Observing the "angles" relative to the Pyramids, and noting where the Kings Chambers are situated, then looking at the Freemason link, and links to other ancient cultures, then these "hints" supposedly apparent at Coral Castle, I can't help but wonder if, in some strange way, these "angles" are indeed relevant to some unseen force being present.

The positioning of where the Kings Chambers are, applied to the known position of the pyramid energy generator that the Austrian fellow made, seems to support this.

Strangely, the angles used in all these different places seem to arise in other areas too, like the angle between the 2 hydrogen atoms in a water molecule. Am I right? I think I saw 105 degrees crop up a few times.

I looked at the B2 Stealth Bomber, and the F-117A Nighthawk stealth aircraft, and saw seemingly familiar angles too, and we all know that these craft are pretty much "invisible" to radar. I looked at the angles around the window frames of the latter craft, and indeed all the other angles that I could see, and wondered if this all had some strange relevance.

Then I went back to this:
Water splitting by HF

I wonder if the triangulation(?) effect of the 2 electrodes had anything to do with the result apparently alluded to here. The significance of the actual frequency applied seemed to ring a bell with other angles and measurements alluded to in all the other stuff related to the pyramids, Freemasons, Coral Castle, Power pyramid, etc. The 5 "meanders" used in that experiment seem to suggest magnetics are at play here too, as we are looking at with the "Kiker Wires" in another thread.

Was the actual point of electrolysis "above" the point we normally assume it to be at, as in /\ , like in an apparent continuation of the angle that the electrodes were set at(triangle shape), and as we always reason that the current will take the path of least resistance, meaning straight across, could the actual angle being used, combined with the frequency, project some sort of magnetic power forward, into the intersecting points "above"?

Looking at the images of the electrolysis event supposedly occurring in those pics, note the apparent shape that the water takes on at different frequencies, is it just coincidence that the water appears to begin to take the shape of a pyramid at one point?

Perhaps the people who failed in their attempts to replicate this experiment never recognised the significance of this "angle".
Could this be possible?

We know that the north wall of the Great Pyramid was precisely aligned with magnetic north all those years ago, and we assume that this allowed some strange force to be applied to the Kings Chambers, yet this alignment has swung slightly away now due to shifts in the actual earth itself, so could it be that the "DROP BELOW" clue at Coral Castle has actual relevance here as these angles have now changed due to this shift in the earths actual shape.

If we lower our angle(?) to slightly less than what the Pyramid designers used, as in "DROP BELOW", will we "tune in" to whatever they were tuned in to?

With regard to the the Pyramids constructed at later dates, were they built with corrections to magnetic north apparent in the actual time of their construction?
Were the angles used between the base and apex lower or higher?

That "flywheel" at Coral Castle is one very interesting contraption.

Weird stuff indeed.....

[Jacob S]

CTG Labs did a similar experiment several years ago:

Electricity from Pyramids

The results weren't as large:

With the meter not connected to the vortex coil is was getting 0.84VAC. With positive lead connected to the vortex coil, I was getting 1.10VAC (with the ground lead connected to earth ground). But I could get 4.17VAC holding the positive lead between my fingers, so nothing of real value here!

But, the setup was far smaller and simpler. Practically anybody with a voltmeter can replicate it. It would be interesting to see how results vary based on the size/shape of the pyramid, and the materials used. I'd be especially interested if somebody were to build an orgone box in the shape of a pyramid. It would also be cool to measure the effects when the pyramid isn't facing north, and build frames in other shapes (square, rectangle, etc.) to attempt to show that this is something unique to pyramids.

[robur]

Pyramid types

it is actually quaite simple.

effect is increassed by spinning magnetic field in the pyramid on it's floow or by placing it on the apex or in the king's chamber.

also the pyramid can be layed-several frames in one another and the inner one having coil. the coil needs to be better then that.

it must me isolated from the ground and be outside if possible.


the energy that comes from thje pyramid is cold it does not get hot nor does it short cut in the weather.

and

THE BEST shape is cone not qyare walled structure of pyramid.


many cones one inside another with the inner most one having a coil placed at the same height as king's chamber. isolated from gound or gronded but if grounded the set-up is very different.

it does not need to be huge 30, 50, 70 feet.

it needs to be layed. and it can be just 4-5 feet hight but have 10+ layers of successive cones with a slight distance benweet them. something like joe cell only cone shaped and can be made from mere paper.

it is not the material that matters it is the shape and geometry.

but the best for it for some reason is copper.


my good friend whio sandly is no longer inm cxontact have told me how to create a power plant from pyramid. you are right magnets increasse effect but not stationary ones. he told me if i place spining ring of magnets into the king's chamber and place some glass on apex i can tap the energy from here. or tap it by placing a coil on apex and doing transmutation by placing the material to transmutte here.

[energeist]

robur, did you try some of these concepts? Did you happen to see trawoegers film? Copper Coins, ey? Sounds very very interesting

[Tishatang]

Hi All
Here is a link to Russian research into pyramids. Maybe might help in getting power from a pyramid?

Chris

[Tishatang]

@All
Sorry, here is the link:

INTERNATIONAL PARTNERSHIP FOR PYRAMID RESEARCH

Chris

[robur]

pyramid energy

Alexander Golod

i know him and his works he is a good buddy and known very good for hios works and lectures.

most of what i said comes from him. but i will not disclose private type files.

here is a lot of research going on and if you do it right the pyramid can power heat and fuel your home and also transmute.

Copper metal is the only known material so far that can increasse the Aether energy and ficus it in the powered pyramid mode.

the list is so extencive that i cannot possible disclose everything here.

[crestind]

Hate to bump an old thread but check out Patent - US20080315587