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  • Project idea's request for Barium Titanate?

    I'm trying to figure out what I could do with these materials I have in regards to experiments, projects etc. A few ideas I have tossed around are electret's or in a similar vein as John Bedini has done with Alum and lead acid batteries, I could try the barium titanate instead of alum? or maybe using the barium in copper sulphate to electroplate the surface of a length of copper or iron using and ssg for use as a conductor or core? I really don't know what the possibilities are/entails or if it's even possible, but I would really like some input to keep myself from dedicating a lot of time to an idea that wasn't in the realm of possibility to begin with.

    Here are the materials I'm interested in working with for extracting energy from the environment:
    Barium Titanate
    Carnuba Wax
    Bees Wax
    White Rosin

  • #2
    bizarre... that is the second time this week I've read about Barium titanate

    Earlier this week I had a random memory from my childhood in india about visiting an man's house not far from my home. I think he was a friend of someone who lived in the village near our house.

    Our area was very remote and didn't have mains electricity so most people used various forms of generators (kerosene and deisel) as well as solar panels and wind mills..

    I can't have been older than about 11 or 12 so forgive me if the details are a bit sketchy, but what suddenly stuck in my mind was how he said he was powering the lights in his house. He claimed it was entirely from peizoelectricity.

    I had no real concept of overunity back then so it never really struck me as fantastical, but I remember that much well because I was very interested in the minerals that were in our area. I remember he said he was using crushed quartz to charge his batteries.

    But i don't think it was the standard kind of quartz you commonly see. I collected alot of the minerals from that area and there were alot of large blocks of crystals that I am sure were a type of quartz (there were alot of low grade rubies in the area too and some unusual heamatite). But these blocks were made of thousands of interlocking crystals about 3-5mm in diameter that made a solid lump but could be pulled apart by hand with enough force. I also remember these crystals would produce fairly impressive sparks when rubbed together.

    Anyway... I'm trying to track him down, but the reason I mention it is because while reading up on over unity devices that use peixoelectricity I found that Barium titanate has some of the best peizoelectric properties...

    This is the best information I can find about it at the moment. Defiantly not the method my aquaintance was using, but an interesting read. Perhaps someone else can fill in the blanks?

    Alien tech? Government tried to ruin zero point energy scientists, page 1
    "Theory guides. Experiment decides."

    “I do not think there is any thrill that can go through the human heart like that felt by the inventor as he sees some creation of the brain unfolding to success... Such emotions make a man forget food, sleep, friends, love, everything.”
    Nikola Tesla

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    • #3
      Barium stuff

      Hello there,
      When I first got into the radiant energy stuff, one of the things I was interested in was John Hutchison and his permanent battery cells. There was some speculation in a couple groups that his secret powder he was using in these was barium of some sort. High voltage applied as he let the mix he had dry up.
      Also, I believe that Bearden has an article on his website about the lattice structure of the barium molocule. I.e. in Sweets VTA, the magnets were barium.
      In both of these there was something going on with the breaking or twisting of the lattice structure, allowing it to provide the energy.
      I'm not the best at chemistry or physics, and I never did any follow up on any of the barium projects I've heard of.
      I did get a big jar of barium ferrite and I was going to try a couple things, but they never happened.
      I would be interested to hear about your projects.

      Marcel

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      • #4
        more goodies from a dusty box

        Seph - Like you I remember being fascinated with rocks back when dirt was my favorite clothing. The plateau's that I grew up on had these rocks that you could peel apart in thin layers... those are the ones i remember the most but the area was covered in all kinds of interesting rocks that didn't look to me at the time as natural. lol.. makes me want to go back and see what they are through more learned eyes.

        I read that article link you supplied. Definitely a refresher in attracting the wrong kind of attention. Very few places mention his name and usually not with mention of his interest in Ba. Only found his name through his marriage to a woman with the maiden name Targ.

        I dug out my box and found that I had a few other items when I last researched electrets and ou. Fe3O4 and few small blocks of bismuth.

        I did find a site that filled in quite a few holes. It pulled together alot of loose ends for me. Electrets

        Specifically paragraphs 3, 4 and 5 under the Dielectrics heading:
        (from the first part of paragraph 3)

        "Thomas Townsend Brown, the pioneer of electrokinetics, or as he called it the ‘electrogravitic’ effect, discovered that certain dielectrics perform much better when charged up at a slower rate of oscillation than others* and it was he who originally devised, in 1958, the science of ‘doping’ dielectric materials with higher-mass particles (the higher atomic-mass particles he used were lead oxide granules) to enhance the dielectric’s electric charge absorption."

        Getting a little closer to an ideal project/experiment with the materials I have.

        the references to the link and Beardens comments to Ba have got me dug in pretty good. thanks guys keep em coming.

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        • #5
          Magnetic Flux

          a project of mine i cannot test due to the lack of horseshoue magnets
          with magnet big enought and enought of them can generate sazeble voltages accourding to tests that friend from Ukraine made but i cannot verify this at the precent moment
          Attached Files

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          • #6
            Try a MRA
            http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Mag...0Amplifier.pdf
            Also thanks for the infoz guys that will make a great addition to the faculty section of the document!

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            • #7
              Things learned

              Over the weekend I attempted to make a sort of electret/hutchinson battery. I dont think I was too successful. But here is the process I used and the things I learned.

              Bismuth-BaTiO3-Fe3O4
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              I melted 50-80 grams of bismuth.
              Mixed 16 grams each of BaTiO3 and Fe3O4

              Added the powdered mixture to the melted bismuth that was still being heated.

              Learned that it was not possible to mix the powder with the bismuth which I thought before hand would encapsulate the powder in a metal bock of sorts. The powder just sort of floated on top of the metal and the iron quickly turned a reddish color.

              I stirred the material continously while being heated. While stirring it seemed that there was a reduction of molten material. So I continued to stir it and eventually there was no more molten material left.

              Removed it from the heat and continued to stir it for a while. I left it to cool. After the temperature dropped to ambient I attempted to remove the larger pieces of material that seemed to be the metal that did not end up either being absorbed or coating the powder.

              Thinking that loosed material would not be something that could be useful without equipment to compress it, I then melted a 50/50 mixture of carnuba wax and white rosin.

              To this I added the powder from the previous process. Thoroughly mixing it. The color turned to a dark reddish brown.

              Once thoroughly mixed I added it to the cell I previously prepared as described below.
              **********************************************

              Battery/cell
              **********************************************
              1 inch dia x 1.5 in copper tubing
              1.5 inch length of heavy bare copper wire (around 1/8 in dia)
              1 inch dia flat copper circle

              Soldered flat copper circle to bottom of copper tube
              Soldered heavy gauge wire to outside of copper tube
              Used strip of cardboard to hold heavy copper wire in position
              Bottom of wire distance from bottom was equal to it's distance from the side.
              **********************************************

              Poling process
              **********************************************
              Using the CFL circuit of Imhotep's
              I placed the cell in place of the cfl
              Wire from top of the coil going to heavy copper wire in the center of the cell
              the other wire clipped to the side of the cell.

              Liquid material was poured into cell
              Circuit was then turned on
              Ended process once wax was room temperature.
              **********************************************

              Observations
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              After the poling process it was noted that the wax level on one side of the center heavy copper wire was lower than the other. Surface level difference about 4 or 5 mm. This lined up perfectly with the lead that was attached to the side of the cell. Slight surface cracks on each side of the center wire are evident.

              Temperature of cell is 1 degree lower than room temperature.
              **********************************************

              I do not know how I would go about testing the cell. But would be glad to run a few tests on it to limits of the equipment I have. I would like to see some scope images from what ever test is performed.

              The problem of the wax being pulled to one side of the cell I'm not sure of how to over come. Possibly wrapping the cell with a band of copper? Or maybe some design changes?

              I really like the amplifier idea. I don't know what the process would be for forming the materials are though.. just learning as I'm going.

              Any ideas would be helpful.

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              • #8
                Your battery/cell reminds me of Crystal Power Cell by John Hutchison where we discussed Rock Cells. I recall something about T.T.Brown saying that when melting and solidifying a high-k cell such as barium titanate, it should be exposed to a very high direct current(one end to the wire inside, and one to the tube outside.)

                Although I think John Hutchison used; germanium, galena, iron pyrite, rochelle salt, and fine sand.

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                • #9
                  good direction to gather more knowledge

                  Thanks for the direction Dingus. Been reading though the sites that came from that link you gave. Lots more to learn it seems. I was thinking that the straight dc would be the trick also. The one I recently made was to satisfy my curiosity about how minimal current and high voltage would affect the performance of such a device maybe by enhancing the poling or stress features. For some reason I see lead acid batteries, capacitors and electrets as very similar devices. There is a crossover of processes taking place and of actual materials used to build them. and this intrigues me to no end. Regardless I think I should have made a 'normal' electret first before trying something completely different. I haven't discarded the first one though... no telling what story it may tell later on. I'll take a few pictures of it this weekend and post em. Definitely going to go through the T.T. Brown material thoroughly before starting the next one. I'll post on what ever I find and details on the next device I make. Thanks again.
                  Last edited by llynch; 08-22-2008, 07:26 PM.

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                  • #10
                    images of first one

                    Here are a few images of the first device. I'm at the moment constructing the second. Going to use a Cement/BaTiO3/Fe3O4/H2O mixture forming it with heat and DC. Making the container much the same as the last. Haven't figured out the ratios of the components yet... still doing a lot of reading trying to find direction on it. I'll put the details up once i decide.
                    Last edited by llynch; 01-08-2012, 02:35 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Here is a step by step How to build a Hutchison Power Cell by the man himself
                      YouTube - ‪How to build a Hutchison Power Cell !!!!‬‏

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                      • #12
                        You could make an ambient power module or inventor3 air circuit and use the barium titanate to make RF wave rectifiers. This should work really well. Much better than germanium type diodes in theory, if you make them well. You could also use a doping agent like iron pyrite.
                        Last edited by ge0rget4; 04-26-2013, 07:19 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Barium ferrite sounds very interesting! You should use that as a crystal cell mix. Perhaps with sodium silicate.

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