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Remember Joe cell Bill Williams? Bill has just sent us his open source disclosure of his cell, it looks very efficient. Original messages will be posted below.
More to come...going to add it all in your hydroxy course document, mean time those who cannot wait here is a rapid share file with the CADS and pictures, click "free" not premium to down load, its a FREE web hosting server.
Pics and CAD of the cell (details below)
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Ash
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Hi Ash
Please feel free and publish the information in its entirety. As far as the test the cells( duplex and single version) and all been tested with amperage setting 30 I and E settings of 14.5. These runs were continuous running of duration exceeding 90 day periods +. The operating temps run in at 110 degrees F. The only attention the units need was water. The electrolyte was set to 10% to 28% by weight (KOH). My water source was from my well(Borehole) and is extremely clean or clear of compounds usually associated, but do to varying waters through out world I would recommend that others testers utilize Distilled version. The design has not presented itself with thermo runaway, it just stabilizes and keeps on producing Gas.
As far as cleaning the SS floaters and SS Anode I always do a mild Acid dip with HCL with a DC charge to open up the lattice of the SS. Then its rinsed off with water and picked in NaOH or KOH solution. I have tested sanding the SS and this work very well, but I prefer to Acid dip which not only cleans the material of organics as well as opens up the lattices of the material.
The O ring material of the Single cell version is EDPM and the Oring of the Duplex is Nitrile. So far both have worked out in the long duration testing. Another nice aspect of this design is that the spacing between the plates can be control very simply by squeezing the Oring's more. I generally look for a 1/8 " crush for the typical setup. In-addition when I first started working this concept I utilized plastic fittings but have changed over to Steel fitting due to heat growth issues. Other wise the fittings torque does not change as the device warms to is operating temperature, where as a plastic fitting growth rate is small and a leak could start.
If I can assist in anyway please feel free to contact me and I'll attempt to clarify.
Attached are three preliminary Dwg's of the Duplex for your review.
Hope U got a viewer for these, they are in AutoCad 2008
As U can see the design is very simple and very effiecent in operation.
30 amp for over 100 hours of continuous operation with operating temperature
of 105 degree's F.
Gas production 3 liters/minute or 180 liters/hr or 405watts(13.5
volts*30amps)/180liter/Hr= 2.25 watts/liter.
This is with a 28% concentration of KOH solution.
Bill
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All
Remember Joe cell Bill Williams? Bill has just sent us his open source disclosure of his cell, it looks very efficient. Original messages will be posted below.
More to come...going to add it all in your hydroxy course document, mean time those who cannot wait here is a rapid share file with the CADS and pictures, click "free" not premium to down load, its a FREE web hosting server.
Pics and CAD of the cell (details below)
RapidShare: Easy Filehosting
Ash
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Hi Ash
Please feel free and publish the information in its entirety. As far as the test the cells( duplex and single version) and all been tested with amperage setting 30 I and E settings of 14.5. These runs were continuous running of duration exceeding 90 day periods +. The operating temps run in at 110 degrees F. The only attention the units need was water. The electrolyte was set to 10% to 28% by weight (KOH). My water source was from my well(Borehole) and is extremely clean or clear of compounds usually associated, but do to varying waters through out world I would recommend that others testers utilize Distilled version. The design has not presented itself with thermo runaway, it just stabilizes and keeps on producing Gas.
As far as cleaning the SS floaters and SS Anode I always do a mild Acid dip with HCL with a DC charge to open up the lattice of the SS. Then its rinsed off with water and picked in NaOH or KOH solution. I have tested sanding the SS and this work very well, but I prefer to Acid dip which not only cleans the material of organics as well as opens up the lattices of the material.
The O ring material of the Single cell version is EDPM and the Oring of the Duplex is Nitrile. So far both have worked out in the long duration testing. Another nice aspect of this design is that the spacing between the plates can be control very simply by squeezing the Oring's more. I generally look for a 1/8 " crush for the typical setup. In-addition when I first started working this concept I utilized plastic fittings but have changed over to Steel fitting due to heat growth issues. Other wise the fittings torque does not change as the device warms to is operating temperature, where as a plastic fitting growth rate is small and a leak could start.
If I can assist in anyway please feel free to contact me and I'll attempt to clarify.
Attached are three preliminary Dwg's of the Duplex for your review.
Hope U got a viewer for these, they are in AutoCad 2008
As U can see the design is very simple and very effiecent in operation.
30 amp for over 100 hours of continuous operation with operating temperature
of 105 degree's F.
Gas production 3 liters/minute or 180 liters/hr or 405watts(13.5
volts*30amps)/180liter/Hr= 2.25 watts/liter.
This is with a 28% concentration of KOH solution.
Bill
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