Capacitor charging

[boguslaw]

Imagine such situation :

a capacitor connected on right side with a circuit of low impedance for discharging current thought a varistor or diac or any other device like spark gap or vacuum tube etc,etc... This capacitor is connected on left side with a static electric field generator producing high frequency oscillating electrostatic field and ZERO CURRENT.

This connection is done by using two high self-induction coils adjusted such that strongly opposed to current discharge from capacitor - something like a diode may also work but it is prone to damage from generator.

This is the key experiment which IS ABLE to PROVE that VOLTAGE POTENTIAL is DOING WORK AND IS THE ENERGY SOURCE.
If resistive load connected as right circuit is powered continuously by static generator then it proves such statement REUSING ELECTRONS STORED IN CAPACITOR.That means ELECTRICITY is an INFORMATION WHICH ORGANIZE current flow. Something I suppose T.Bearden and J.Bedni have been saying for along time..

The POINT IS that such experiment IS in one of Tesla patent already.

Do you think he would patent something which does not work ?

[boguslaw]

Isn't that how Testatika is working ?

[theremart]

I saw this video...

YouTube - Free Electrical Energy

And I thought of this thread...

I have not done this experiment, but looks like it fits in this thread..

Mart

[CitizenDC]

YouTube - Free Electrical Energy

And I thought of this thread...

I have not done this experiment, but looks like it fits in this thread..

Mart

Tnx for the vid Theremart. Are you planning on replicating this experiment?

NRGFromTheVacuum

I have no idea if this is one of John Bedini's many circuits. I came up with this circuit on my own through trial and error. In the video the switching is done manually with my hand to show the effect. However if you add a mechanical switch, you can keep the battery charged indefinitely, while getting mechanical motion for free. The maximum voltage I have obtained from this circuit has been just over 600 volts.

cheers

[gmeat]

Tnx for the vid Theremart. Are you planning on replicating this experiment?



cheers

Hi CitizenDC,


I tried this experiment using 12v but did'nt have any success.



-Gary

[theremart]

He did it again.

YouTube - Free Electrical Energy 2

Running a spark gap with this.

[CitizenDC]

Hi CitizenDC,
I tried this experiment using 12v but did'nt have any success.
-Gary

Hi Gmeat!

man you beat me to it. Can you share some details of your test setup?

The two variables I see are the bifilar coil and cap NRGFromTheVacuum's using.

The bifilar coil used has 800 windings, though there is not info with regards to wire thickness and if he uses different thickness wire for the primary and secondary.
Also, the cap he's using is a monster 4kv 20uf... In the energy saving bulbs imhotep was taking apart, there is 1x 400v eletrolytic cap and 1x 1or10Kv ceramic type cap. I'm planning testing both of these.

I took a look at some of NRGFromTheVacuum's other vids on youtube, he's making good progress with this.

cheers

[CitizenDC]

NRGFromTheVacuum's kindly got back to me with the coil and cap data.

Here is he's response if anyone else wants to experiment with this:

Wire used for coil is #23 AWG and # 26 AWG wrapped around a 3.5" core with a 1" diameter.
The actual impedance of the coil is 4.7 ohms.

Use a DC 250 volt 30uf capacitor.
Just remember your source has to have a strong voltage. So when you short the source through the coil the voltage does not drop. (Gmeat, maybe if you used 24 volts?)

Ive done the experiment with a capacitor as my source but it was 40v 47,000uf.

Good luck and remember the current is the enemy. Short all three together as fast as possible.
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[boguslaw]

My idea

This is schematic for my idea.Note that inductors have adjusted to disallow back capacitor discharge and are working like a perfect switches.
It would work based on unchecked theory that electrostatic field is really a very high frequency oscillating electric field.Then it will be also OU if experiments will prove that time of charging capacitor depends more on frequency and voltage of applied current then on amperage.

[boguslaw]

Note that this schematic is also a principle for Stanley Meyer Water Fuel Cell device , needs only slight modifications...

[CitizenDC]

Note that this schematic is also a principle for Stanley Meyer Water Fuel Cell device , needs only slight modifications...

Hey guys, I got this working.
It took me many attempts of touching the 2 wires to the capacitor negative at the same time.
The highest voltage climb was around 125v. Input power 2x12v batteries in series. 400v 3.3uf capacitor used to test.

Interesting stuff.

cheers

[Magnethos]

Hey guys, I got this working.
It took me many attempts of touching the 2 wires to the capacitor negative at the same time.
The highest voltage climb was around 125v. Input power 2x12v batteries in series. 400v 3.3uf capacitor used to test.

Interesting stuff.

cheers

Congratulations!
I'm also interested in the Cold Electricity Light Bulb experiment that NRGfromthevacuum made.

Any information about how to replicate that experiment?

[CitizenDC]

Hi Magnethos,

Firstly, I recommend getting well acquianted with NRG's video, you can find it here YouTube - Free Electrical Energy.
Get a pen and paper and jot down those schematics and parts in the vid. Thats how I went about it.


Info Parts:
In this vid he explains what parts you'll need to replicate he's experiment.
The bifilar coil he is using has a high amount of windings. You dont need to wrap that many windings. 300 windings where sufficient for me to test this.

For the cap, I tested a few and eventually went with a 400v 3.3uf electrolytic type. Any higher voltage cap with a decent capacity will do.


Bifilar Secret:
I got stuck on the bifilar coil wiring as NRG only shows two wires leaving the coil and I was expecting four. The 'secret' I eventually discovered was to combine the four bifilar wires into 2 wires by knotting them together.

Action:
That was it, I used crockadile clipse to link the circuit and bashed the clips together until I got the affect. I succeeded after a few minutes of correcting my timing of touching the clips.
If you get it wrong, I recall you will see a nice spark. If you get it right, that big spark lands up in the capacitor and registers on your Multimeter.

Let us know how it goes.

All the best!

[Magnethos]

thank you very much for the info.
I have read the capacitor must be an electrolytic one. I understand all, but.. What about the bifilar coil? That is the part I don't fully understand.

You say I need to use 4 bifilar wires??
In a post I read I need to use #23 AWG and #26 AWG.
Post more detailed information about the bifilar part, because I don't fully understand.

[CitizenDC]

Hi Magnethos,

Essentially a bifilar coil is pretty much a double wound coil. Instead of using one wire you use two wires of similar or slightly different thickness and wound it around a spool.
There are many techniques that will enhance the effectiveness but lets stick to the basics for now.
Imagine winding a single wire coil around an empty fishing line spool. When you are finished you are left with two wires. The end that you started with and the end that you finished with.
Now imagine winding two wires at the same time around another spool. At the end you are left with 4 wires, two wires you started with and two that you ended with.
There are some nice videos on YouTube that show you exactly how to wind bifilar coils. Actually thats how I started out.

Now in NRG's circuit diagram he shows a bifilar coil but with only two wires which is actually 4 wire ends joined into 2 groups making two wires.
I hope that makes sense.

For now consider winding the bifilar coil first. My first coil I still use. Its approximately 300-350 turns around an emtpy fishing line spool. I used 23 and 26 gage wire to wind it.

Let me know if you need some more info.

Cheers!