Impedence of battery..... JB

[theremart]

Ok, was watching Energy from the Vacuum again today for about the 40th time

John said when the impedence of the battery reaches its lowest the battery is charged.

I looked at my old conventenal battery charger which I used on my alum battery, and it just hit me that whenever I put the 8 Amp side on, the amp draw is at the fullest when it starts, however after a few hours, the amp draw goes dramatically down.... to only a few amps...

So... this is why the charging rate is so long at the start and climbs faster and faster till the top amount is reached.... There is less resistance in the battery to current flow.

Now the process of the SSG, the SS is to break down that impedence... To remove the sulfur on the plates, and to create the crystals on them...


Hmm still trying to work out matchint the impedence of the coil to that type of battery, because there will be a full range of impedence a battery will give...

[amigo]

Ah you too?

I watch it from time to time as sort of a "morale booster" when I feel down or uninspired. SG is one of those few things that were actually shown to work and appear to do what's claimed, without any outlandish stuff and "urban legends". I like the pendulum part the best...

You know I've noticed something though, throughout the video the "impedance" thing keeps getting mixed up. In the first hour he says low impedance, but then in the pendulum part he says high impedance, kinda confusing me...

[esaruoho]

and when he says "low impedance" - which machine is he talking of?
and when he says "high impedance" - which machine is he talking of? the pendulum, it seems.

surely a couple of different machines can function differently regards impedance?

it is however interesting to watch EFTV1+EFTV2+EFTV5. i wish i could find where i mislaid my EFTV4, as im still yet to watch it properly.
apparently EFTV6 will be completely focused on JOhn Bedini and David Clemens talking of the bedini machines on the blackboard and on the bench.

[amigo]

I thought that when he was talking about impedance he meant the batteries...

If you can find it in the video (EFTV2), when he talks about the pendulum he says for the small battery pack that it has high impedance, which would mean it is not fully charged? (that according to the previous statements he made earlier in the video with the monopole motor when he said that when impedance drops to the lowest level the battery is charged)

[patmac]

In my concept, dipoles on the battery ever exist, is there charged or discharged.... Charged is low impendance, then battery may move the LOAD,
when is discharged not, because the impendance is higher than impendance LOAD. This concept for me is valid with capacitors, when is discharged or charged. Low volts capacitors (ie: 16 volts X 100000uf) recover it's impendance easely, because internal plates is near each one on other.

For me potential on battery discharged seems more like static electricity. No moves the LOAD, but charge a capacitor quickly.

[CitizenDC]

I thought that when he was talking about impedance he meant the batteries...

If you can find it in the video (EFTV2), when he talks about the pendulum he says for the small battery pack that it has high impedance, which would mean it is not fully charged? (that according to the previous statements he made earlier in the video with the monopole motor when he said that when impedance drops to the lowest level the battery is charged)

This is how I understand it.

Battery impedance or internal battery resistance of 0 allows you to tap the full energy-potential of a battery.
When your internal battery resistance is high, any power you draw from the battery is wasted relative to the amount of internal battery resistance.

What causes this resistance? Battery sulphation clogs the lead terminals with tiny crystals providing less area on the lead terminal for the chemical process to react with.

[theremart]

From a document from the old SG group...

STARTERS GUIDE – PART II A GUIDE FOR BUILDING BEDINI ENERGIZERS BY RICK F, RICHARD L., AND RS-------------


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NOTES ON BATTERIES AND COILS IMPEDANCE MATCHING
 Ideally the impedance of each coil should match the C20 rate for the batteries.
 As previously indicated, the small 7.0Ah gel cell types have a C20 rate of 0.28A. That is the maximum discharge rate allowed under the C20 rule. The coil specified on Peswiki comes under this value and thus is well suited for new users.
 Obviously larger batteries with higher C20 rates will support larger coils or those with heavier gauge wire or more than one coil (for now stick with the one coil). As a quick rule of thumb, Roamer has suggested to buy 100ft of 18AWG twin speaker cable from Radio Shack and make the coil for larger batteries.
 Basically, bigger wire coil implies higher RPM and more current. Multiple smaller coils imply higher RPM and less current draw per coil but more overall than just one coil (see notes below).
 All this depends on your rotor, the number of magnets, etc… with regards to where the „sweet spot‟ RPM and amperage is going to be for a given coil size or number of coils running at that „sweet spot‟ RPM.
 As a further example a coil or coils that draw 1 to 3 amps (as shown on a DMM), will charge a deep cycle golf cart size battery bank. This amperage draw does not even get close to the C20 rating of the battery bank, so that the rest of the charge in the battery can be used for other loads at the same time as charging the other bank(s).