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    Hi Guys,

    Reading and learning as much as I can here, but still know very little about electronics. Please ponder this:

    The bigger the "Inductor", the bigger the "Inductance", correct?

    Example: On Page 25 of this document http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Newman1.pdf Joe Newman states that if we take an air coil of 40 gauge wire , 1000 feet long, and having a resistance of 1,049 ohms, then pulse a 100 Volt, 95 Milliamp current to it, that the resulting inductance would be .003 henries. No big deal, right?

    But then he goes on to say, that if we take that same 100 Volt, 95 Milliamp current and put it into a much larger coil, say 5 gauge wire, measuring 3,348,000 feet, to EQUAL the EXACT same resistance as above of 1,049 ohms, that the inductance is now a phenomenal 8,000,000 times greater, or a whopping 25,700 Henries!

    Patrick Kelly also states on Page 22 of this document Practical Guide to Free-Energy Devices - eBook Download "So, just to get it straight in your mind, when you make a battery, the chemical action inside the battery creates a Plus terminal and a Minus terminal. Those poles actually distort the universe around your battery, and causes vast streams of energy to radiate out in every direction from each pole of the battery. Why doesn't the battery run down? Because the energy is flowing from the environment and not from the battery. If you were taught basic physics or electrical theory, you will probably have been told that the battery used to power any circuit, supplies a stream of electrons which flows around the circuit. Sorry Chief - it just aint like that at all. What really happens is that the battery forms a "dipole" which nudges the local environment into an unbalanced state which pours out energy in every direction, and some of that energy from the environment flows around the circuit attached to the battery. The energy does NOT come from the battery."

    Most of the people building motors on here are probably just going to try and hook it to a generator anyway for some type of electricity generation.

    So..............my question is this: Why aren't we just pulsing larger coils????
    Why do we need motors, spinning magnets, spinning wheels, rotors, brushes, commutators, etc.

    Wouldn't it be simpler just to pulse larger coils with a chip or oscillator?

    Obviously, the example above with 3,348,000 feet of 5 gauge wire (and weighing 335,469 pounds) is a little extreme, but what about 10 pound coils, or 20 pound coils, or 50 pound coils?

    What about wrapping some coils of wire around that car sitting in our driveway or garage that never moves. Would the iductance created be the equivilant of a much larger coil?

    If any of this sounds viable, what would such a circuit look like? Anything like this?


  • #2
    that is the same that bearden was saying across 20 years, the energy doesn´t come from the battery at all.

    I think that nobody has understood that principle.

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    • #3
      The energy does NOT come from the battery.
      So its simply... a gate?

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      • #4
        I do not believe the issue to be of a principle or not knowing, it is the people who are at fault. The unwillingness to change, also enforced by the corporate world is keeping things as they are. In order to utilize PWM (or any other form of energy different from today's AC current) all appliances need to be re-engineered, not just the power sources.

        And yet, most members of the so-called Free Energy Community are spending insane amounts of time, money and resources, imho, trying to find this "Holy Grail" of "free energy" just so they could convert it back to the present AC current and power their appliances. That is so asinine and plain WRONG.

        If anything is to change we *must* re-design everything, source and the destination, otherwise we are trying to push a square peg through a round hole which will not work.

        I have written about this on many occasions on different forums, and frankly been very disappointed at the lack of response or interest. Same goes with this idiotic obsession on hydrogen generation and hydrogen powered cars that some people have, but that's a different rant for another time .

        My conclusion is that everyone is simply playing into the hands of the power lords, knowingly or not, by maintaining their status-quo through adhering to the old ways. Perhaps when these generations of people die, we might see a new one one day with a different point of view - one of willingness to radically change things for the better.
        Are the ravings of a lunatic signs of a genius?

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        • #5
          "What really happens is that the battery forms a "dipole" which nudges the local environment into an unbalanced state which pours out energy in every direction, and some of that energy from the environment flows around the circuit attached to the battery. The energy does NOT come from the battery."

          ...But where's the proof of this? I'd love to get some free environmental energy from some battery terminals. Honestly ... "a "dipole" nudges the local environment into an unbalanced state" What the heck is that supposed to even mean (from a scientific perspective)?

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          • #6
            Exactly!

            DavidE..........yes you can call it a Gate! You can also call it a Switch. It is well known that we are all living in a sea of invisible energy, all we have to do is open the Gate (or flip the switch) to access it :-)

            Gre.........don't shoot the messenger (LOL). I highly recommend reading the two attached documents to those statements, especially the first one from Joe Newman.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by amigo View Post
              In order to utilize PWM (or any other form of energy different from today's AC current) all appliances need to be re-engineered, not just the power sources.
              Although it is true that all appliances should be remade, it's not exactly practical to replace every electronic device in you house. Unless you're rich or something, you'd be pretty stupid to try that instead of finding a new way to power the devices you already have.

              It's bad to expect someone to change one thing in their lives, and tones more difficult to expect them to change hundreds of things they will ever get around that one thing.

              Originally posted by amigo View Post
              Same goes with this idiotic obsession on hydrogen generation and hydrogen powered cars that some people have, but that's a different rant for another time .
              Ok, I think I can sympathize a bit more with this one.

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              • #8
                @Gre
                What really happens is that the battery forms a "dipole" which nudges the local environment into an unbalanced state which pours out energy in every direction, and some of that energy from the environment flows around the circuit attached to the battery. The energy does NOT come from the battery."
                A dipole is something that has been polarized like a magnet, a battery is polarized (+)(-)thus an electric current polarizes the whole circuit. The local environment is full of radiation from our sun and every star(suns) which people call "radiant" energy because it is radiated outward to earth filling all space and matter. When something is polarized it could be seen as being under stress or tension which interacts with radiant energy producing electric and magnetic fields in and around matter. In this case we could say energy as we know it is as much a property of the space surrounding polarized matter as it is to matter itself, you cannot seperate the two. LOL, We have not come much further in our understanding of nature than a couple hundred years ago when man could not figure out what air was, that invisible stuff we breath that makes the wind blow. We are so self-centered, It's kind of funny when you think about it
                Last edited by Allcanadian; 09-18-2008, 09:22 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
                  @Gre
                  A dipole is something that has been polarized like a magnet, a battery is polarized (+)(-)thus an electric current polarizes the whole circuit. The local environment is full of radiation from our sun and every star(suns) which people call "radiant" energy because it is radiated outward to earth filling all space and matter. When something is polarized it could be seen as being under stress or tension which interacts with radiant energy producing electric and magnetic fields in and around matter. In this case we could say energy as we know it is as much a property of the space surrounding polarized matter as it is to matter itself, you cannot seperate the two. LOL, We have not come much further in our understanding of nature than a couple hundred years ago when man could not figure out what air was, that invisible stuff we breath that makes the wind blow. We are so self-centered, It's kind of funny when you think about it
                  i was watching energy from the vacuum part 5 and bearden mentioned that a magnet is a dipole. i was very happy, for some reason, due to this:



                  (walter russell electrical explanations from various places)

                  so, is what i heard out of eftv5 and understood as this correct: that a magnet is a dipole with a field that comes from the bloch wall continuously, i.e. a steady field that constantly replenishes itself, and that by disturbing the balance of this field by "breaking it" "making it asymmetric", one can tap the flow of the field trying to re-establish itself?



                  i hope one day there'll be a little article with someone connecting all this, the high voltage low current, and HV spike battery charging and VAR/reactive power stuff together so that it finally makes some usable sense.
                  Flickr photosets (My visits to the Nikola Tesla&Viktor Schauberger Museums, Steorn Waterways 2009 Orbo demonstration, Earthship Brighton, and also Walter Russell images)
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                  • #10
                    I think Walter Russell was waaayyy ahead of his time. Once you get your head around his theories, (and his unique way of describing them), thay make a lot of sence.
                    You can view my vids here

                    http://www.youtube.com/SJohnM81

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                    • #11
                      Wow, inmeasurable quantity of responses to this thread. Invaluable information here. I love this thread.

                      As everybody know, one can extract the dipole of a magnet moving the magnet trough a coil, the transformation takes place and the invisible power becomes visible power , real electron current. The transformation is: the virtual photon flow on the magnetic field of the magnet collide against the field of the free orbital electron in the copper atom, producing the movement of the electrons in the copper wire.

                      In order to do this one has to expend Work moving the magnet towards the coil.

                      But one can simplify this extracting the power from the magnet disturbing the field of the magnet, and produce scalar amplification, and capturing the resulting scalar flow of energy into a coil of copper wire.

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                      • #12
                        When you got a dipole you got the energy, the actual circuits are designated in order to destroy the dipole by simply re order the ion and give the death to the life/dipole that Russell shows.

                        Dipole is life, energy, is matter, when you destroy the dipole you loose the energy , the life , the diference in potential, you go to hell.

                        When the illusion is alive , the dipole is putting electromagnetic energy in all directions , when the illusion dies, the result is Absolute vacuum in an absolute state of quietness/rest and in an absolute state of darkness, that is death, as the death of the human forms is the same.

                        I'm going to keep the illusion , i don't want to die, i love life.

                        Universal entropy is destroying the dipole, when the dipole of the universe is lost there is no more universe, nothing. Kelvin has said that.

                        I´m going to keep the dipole.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by darkwizard View Post

                          But one can simplify this extracting the power from the magnet disturbing the field of the magnet, and produce scalar amplification, and capturing the resulting scalar flow of energy into a coil of copper wire.
                          Hi,

                          Could you show or refer to a circuit that does what you say above?

                          Thanks, Gyula

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                          • #14
                            The MEG for example, and the solid state oscillator with the magnet inside the coil

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                            • #15
                              i have conducted various experiments, and the results showed me that when the magnet is placed inside the coil, the voltage increase in the charging battery, that is the difference between back emf and free radiant energy.

                              The heaviside flow, one must understand.

                              Another difference is: back emf is showed on the tester/multimeter, and free radiant energy is not showed on the multimeter, only the oscilloscope shows that "scalar wave".
                              Last edited by darkwizard; 09-18-2008, 03:08 PM.

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