Tesla Switch For Electricity = Heron Pump For Water?

[patmac]

Hi, energeticforum community.

I was studying the Tesla Switch, Bedini Solid State Osc, Edwing Gray ("... split the positive"), Law conservation of charge (remember sephiroth ).

My final theory practical is Tesla Switch is near to be equal to the Heron Pump. Heron Pump was used by egipcian send water to the heights in his buildings by converting the gravity to pressure, (like in electricity convert amperage to potential?).

Look the attachment. That is a Heron Pump, when water is no pumped, bottle b is interchanged by bottle c and the match begins again

I think that Tesla was inspired by this system for create the Tesla Switch. If inspiring us for this we can rebuild the tesla switch from his creation to get it better.....

[ashtweth]

Thanks for the thought promotion, Patmac, i am half way through a Tesla switch course for the uni site, we finished our rep, just need to add in some connectors, hopefully we will get to it next week, il add this into the course too

[bobo36us]

patmac........do you have any more info on that pump? Where did you get the picture? It looks like a simple concept, but the picture doesn't explain everything. What else do you know about it?

Ash...........anxiously awaiting your updates. Will this new information complete the course on the panacea site?

[Jetijs]

bobo36us, here you go:

http://uk.geocities.com/nsc_zambia/e...n_fountain.htm

[patmac]

Thanks Jetjs,

Usefull guide to replicate this system. Hey, my own concept is: Heron Pump or Fountain is not OVERUNITY device but it was a very usefull for egipcian civilization and Middle Age, so what is the point?, for me, the point is battery store electrons sorted when is charged so this electrons in closed loop is goes out in heat on open loop goes to another Battery like the Tesla Switch, Heron Fountain works using the same concept but overunity there is no possible by the gravity mainly.

[bobo36us]

Jetijs............great link, thanks!!

patmac..........if this works like Jetijs's link says, why would you not consider it over unity?

Bobo

[patmac]

Jetijs............great link, thanks!!

patmac..........if this works like Jetijs's link says, why would you not consider it over unity?

Bobo

bobo36us

The link where drawing is hosted is :

http://ar.geocities.com/experimet/Exp9.htm

I've not published that link because is in spanish, but I'm from south america so, I can try to translate where explains that drawings:

"El agua pasa por el tubo desde la vasija a hasta el frasco c. Al aumentar la cantidad de líquido en c, el aire, empujado por el agua, pasa hacia el frasco b presiona el agua y ésta vuelve a la vasija a, por el otro tubo .
Cuando el frasco b queda vacío, porque el agua que había en él pasó ya a través de la vasija a al frasco c, los frascos b y c se pueden cambiar de lugar entre sí y la fuente volverá a echar agua, si la boquilla se pone en el otro tubo."
In English:

"Water passes through pipes from crock to the bottle c. By increasing the amount of fluid on C. the air pushed by the water, passing to the bottle B pressing the water and going back to the crock A (fountain), by the another pipe. When Bottle B is empty, because the water had already passed it through the crock to the Bottle C, the bottles b and c can switch between them and the fountain will realese water, if the nozzle is connected in the another pipe (nozzle is over the water and the another pipe is bottom water, so this must be interchanged too)".

That is the heron's fountain version more functional because only you have interchange the bottle and reconnect the nozzle to restart it , is good, but this is no overunity, you can, use that fountain to activate a generator, then to interchange the bottles you need energy to elevate the bottle charged with water, so is hard reach overunity with this.

Contradictory on Tesla Switch with electricity in many cases we can forget about gravity, pressure, temperature , so battery is a chemicals process, and like we can see on Bedini Systems. I think Tesla could be inspired by this device to research the Tesla Switch. My opinion is analysing this device we can study and using our imagination we can get better the Tesla Switch, for example the crock can be a Capacitor and the bottle batteries rechargeables..... no only using batteries, we can find alternatives....

[ashtweth]

Here is the page translated
Translated version of http://ar.geocities.com/experimet/Exp9.htm

[bobo36us]

ash..............how is the Tesla course coming along? Anything to share yet?

Thanks, Bobo

[ashtweth]

Hi Bobo

Its coming along with allot of diversity thanks to this thread and some others here . We have it mounted in the box and is ready for testing, gonna try some LED's for a load first, i think the electrons wont die as heat , and would flow like water this way..gotta see tho..

course is 80% done, check out the rep here ready for testing this week bud wont be much longer
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[rickoff]

Hi folks,

I have long been interested in the Heron's pump, or Heron's Fountain technology, and thought I would revive this discussion thread after noticing that there are now examples of Heron's Fountain technology being displayed on YouTube.

Here's one example showing what amounts to a mere toy constructed by a school kid for a science class project, but which is clearly self running after adding some water to a reservoir at the top of the unit to get the action started. As you can see, water circulates downwards through the system by gravity, and causes air at the top of the sealed lower reservoir jar to become pressurized. Seeking to normalize the air pressure, air from the lower reservoir jar rises to a second sealed reservoir jar placed higher in the system, and this air entering the second reservoir jar forces water to return to the open reservoir at the top of the unit to start the flow cycle over again. As water returns to the open upper reservoir, it is dumped over a paddle wheel, setting it into continuous motion. While this unit is just a toy, one can see how this technology could be scaled much larger and used to drive a paddle wheel or turbine connected to a generator.

The drawback to this setup is that this apparatus would eventually stop running when either the lower reservoir jar fills with water, or the raised reservoir jar empties its water. Therefore, this is nowhere close to being a "Near Perpetual Motion" display, as touted in the video title. Still, though, it proves quite interesting and thought provoking. The question that obviously arises is whether or not it would be possible to somehow remedy the inherent problems which eventually cause the water flow to cease. In regards to that question, another young fellow has posted some ideas he has for solving these problems, and it is worth a look and some contemplation. Those ideas can be reviewed here, and the presentation is best viewed in full screen mode so that you can read what is written, since there is no audible explanation given. While these ideas may or may not have potential for curing, or partially curing the problems, perhaps there are other ideas which might prove useful. For example, suppose that some of the energy from the paddle wheel was used to pump water from the lower reservoir jar to the upper reservoir jar, thus keeping the lower jar from filling and the upper one from emptying. Additionally, solar heating applied to a coiled tube exiting the lower reservoir jar would cause water to rise to the upper reservoir jar. This is probably enough to get some of you folks thinking about the many possible, if not probable, solutions. And don't be afraid to suggest something for fear it may prove useless, or regarded as foolish by others. The only stupid ideas are the ones that are never acted upon or offered to others for consideration. If in fact there is a simple and viable solution then such technology would not only be useful and affordable, but easily replicated as well.

[Cherryman]

Fascinating, I like it!

It looks to me as you can also add another waterwheel (power) inside the bottom jaw. No need for the hose to end under water, does it? So this makes two waterwheel for work!

[Dave45]

Perpetual motion machines (hypothetical ) - YouTube