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I had this idea for some days now and I can't get it out of my head, so I explain it and hope to hear form you what you think about it.
I have read about Muller generator a while ago, in a few words, he was using an even number of neo magnets on the rotor and an odd number of coils on the stator to minimize the cogging. Also, accorcing to Peter, he used coil cores made out of black sand and epoxy resin. This mimimizes the drag even more. The Muller generator is supposed to work in such a way that it does not create additional drag if it's output is loaded down as it is with regular genarators. So when I think about exctracting power form coils with no adittional drag on the rotor, the first thing that comes in my mind is a Bedini self runner experiment that I made a year ago. This is the circuit I used back then:
It is simple. The bottom part of the circuit is a regular Bedini circuit that makes the wheel spin. The top coil ir the recovery coil with many windings. It is magnetized and then at a correct moment that coil is connected to the primary battery and discharged, in the same time the primary circuit is disconnected form the battery. This is called backpopping. The interesting thing is that if your recovery coil has at least 20 Ohms of resistance (at least for my setup), and is pulsed on the right time, it will produce HV spikes up to 2000v (according to my cheap'o'meter). The number of turns in the coil is important, because I could not get the HV spikes out the the recovery coil if the resistance was too low. Basically if you connect a bridge rectifier and a cap on the output of the recovery coil and measure the voltage on the cap, the coil should output at least 35-40V at maximum rotor speed. I noticed that if your coil has ebough turns and the discharge timing is right, then as the rotor speed goes up, so does also the voltahe on the recovery coil, till it reaches about 33-35v, then the HV spikes start to appear (of course only if the coil is discharged into the primary battery at the correct moments). From the few tests I made back then I saw that if the coil is pulsed this way, it does not create adittional drag on the rotor, but we can use these spikes to charge up a battery. I made two tests, one was with a coil connected directly to a battery through a bridge rectifier and the other was when a battery was attached to the coil only with brief pulses at correct moments. Both times the battery seemed to charge up un similar speed, but the pulsing did not create any noticeable drag on the rotor as the directly attached battery did.
I think that this is what's happening, if we put a coil near the magnet wheel and the coil leads are open, then this does not create a big drag on the wheel. Of course there will be a small drag because the iron coil core, as the energy that is needed for the magnet to release the core is a bit bigger than the energy that is produced when the core attracts the magnet. But this is a minor drag. But when we short the coil leads, the coil becomes an electro magnet and slows the wheel down much more. This is becuase there is a closed loop. The same closed loop is there if a battery is attached on the output of the coil - it charges up, but it slows the wheel down. So what if we leave the coil open, let the magnet magnetize the core and as soon as the magnet is gone away far enough, but the core is still magnetized, we connect the coil to the battery and collect the collapsing magentic field in form of a spike. This way the magnet will already be far away form the coil to be influenced by the short closed loop time. This way we could get some energy out of the spinning wheel and not slow the wheel down by doing this.
I may be compeltely OFF here, this is just an idea.
What do you guys think?
I had this idea for some days now and I can't get it out of my head, so I explain it and hope to hear form you what you think about it.
I have read about Muller generator a while ago, in a few words, he was using an even number of neo magnets on the rotor and an odd number of coils on the stator to minimize the cogging. Also, accorcing to Peter, he used coil cores made out of black sand and epoxy resin. This mimimizes the drag even more. The Muller generator is supposed to work in such a way that it does not create additional drag if it's output is loaded down as it is with regular genarators. So when I think about exctracting power form coils with no adittional drag on the rotor, the first thing that comes in my mind is a Bedini self runner experiment that I made a year ago. This is the circuit I used back then:
It is simple. The bottom part of the circuit is a regular Bedini circuit that makes the wheel spin. The top coil ir the recovery coil with many windings. It is magnetized and then at a correct moment that coil is connected to the primary battery and discharged, in the same time the primary circuit is disconnected form the battery. This is called backpopping. The interesting thing is that if your recovery coil has at least 20 Ohms of resistance (at least for my setup), and is pulsed on the right time, it will produce HV spikes up to 2000v (according to my cheap'o'meter). The number of turns in the coil is important, because I could not get the HV spikes out the the recovery coil if the resistance was too low. Basically if you connect a bridge rectifier and a cap on the output of the recovery coil and measure the voltage on the cap, the coil should output at least 35-40V at maximum rotor speed. I noticed that if your coil has ebough turns and the discharge timing is right, then as the rotor speed goes up, so does also the voltahe on the recovery coil, till it reaches about 33-35v, then the HV spikes start to appear (of course only if the coil is discharged into the primary battery at the correct moments). From the few tests I made back then I saw that if the coil is pulsed this way, it does not create adittional drag on the rotor, but we can use these spikes to charge up a battery. I made two tests, one was with a coil connected directly to a battery through a bridge rectifier and the other was when a battery was attached to the coil only with brief pulses at correct moments. Both times the battery seemed to charge up un similar speed, but the pulsing did not create any noticeable drag on the rotor as the directly attached battery did.
I think that this is what's happening, if we put a coil near the magnet wheel and the coil leads are open, then this does not create a big drag on the wheel. Of course there will be a small drag because the iron coil core, as the energy that is needed for the magnet to release the core is a bit bigger than the energy that is produced when the core attracts the magnet. But this is a minor drag. But when we short the coil leads, the coil becomes an electro magnet and slows the wheel down much more. This is becuase there is a closed loop. The same closed loop is there if a battery is attached on the output of the coil - it charges up, but it slows the wheel down. So what if we leave the coil open, let the magnet magnetize the core and as soon as the magnet is gone away far enough, but the core is still magnetized, we connect the coil to the battery and collect the collapsing magentic field in form of a spike. This way the magnet will already be far away form the coil to be influenced by the short closed loop time. This way we could get some energy out of the spinning wheel and not slow the wheel down by doing this.
I may be compeltely OFF here, this is just an idea.
What do you guys think?
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