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  • #61
    Thanks for your answer.
    I bought the plans from Creative science website about ten years ago. The plans were for the drum heater and for the disk heater also. Thy said that the disk to disk clearance should be 1/8" and disk to drum should 1/4. It looked just like what you have made, but maybe thy where not the first to come up with it.
    If I can fined the plans I will try to post them. You have made me start thinking about it again, and given me hope that it will work. I also want to heat my house and greenhouse with it. A thought for you that you may know already Capacitance lowers Induction motor Amp draw by 80% - YouTube
    I have done this and it works vary well. I am looking forward to and am vary interested in what are willing to share
    William Reed

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    • #62
      Originally posted by slapstick View Post
      Great work!
      Here are my old pictures:


      It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by rosehillworks View Post
        Thanks for your answer.
        I bought the plans from Creative science website about ten years ago. The plans were for the drum heater and for the disk heater also. Thy said that the disk to disk clearance should be 1/8" and disk to drum should 1/4. It looked just like what you have made, but maybe thy where not the first to come up with it.
        If I can fined the plans I will try to post them. You have made me start thinking about it again, and given me hope that it will work. I also want to heat my house and greenhouse with it. A thought for you that you may know already Capacitance lowers Induction motor Amp draw by 80% - YouTube
        I have done this and it works vary well. I am looking forward to and am vary interested in what are willing to share
        Wow that was really cool!!
        With that setup or something like it this heater would so much better and cheaper to run.
        As far as sharing what I have learned with this build, I am willing to share everything I have found out and hoping to make it better with the help of others, just ask what you want to know about the heater. Its really nice to see people interested in this. I think that it could be so much more then just a heater. I was thinking of using some TEG/TEC to feed back some if not all the power back to it and be self running. Here is a fast mock up I was thinking of. I dont know much about them but I am always willing to learn
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        • #64
          Here are some specs from the heater I built.

          The Top, bottom plates are made out of 304 SS .500 thick or 1/2inch

          Body: Is a 8" tube heat sized to make it round the trimmed to 10"

          Shims: also made from 304 SS @ .1875 thick or 3/16inch

          The Drive discs and the stationary discs are made from mild steal @ .0625 or 1/16inch
          I had them laser cut from Brill metal works out of Medford Or. ( they did the work and supplied the metal cheaper then I could buy the metal so it was kinda of a no brainner to have the do that work for me
          the drive shaft it 5/8 bar stock from Ace hardware

          Oil: 100% organic soy been oil from Wal-Mart
          the heater take about 1 US gal. to fill up
          I am running 24 discs total so that is 12 drive disc and 12 stationary discs stacked up in between the drive shims and the stationary shims.
          The discs spacing is .0625 or 1/16inch between the drivers and stationary

          Stationary Disc: OD @ 7.75inch with a 1.5 hole is the center.

          Drive Disc: 7.00 inch with a 5/8 hole in the center for the drive shaft to slide through with a keyway slot cut out to hold the discs.

          Then I used a high temp 700F caulking to seal it all up.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
            Great work!
            Here are my old pictures:
            nice build m8!
            Is that lexan? I was thinking of making one out of lexan just as a demo for people to see the inside. Did you get any heat from the drum on drum? I was thinking of making a drum on drum with 3/32 clearance between them. I have found out that only with very close tolerances is when you get REALLY good results. Now mind you I am using nothing but 100% organic oils!! I really cant stand for the use of fossil oils.

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            • #66
              fuelles heat

              Originally posted by slapstick View Post
              Here are some specs from the heater I built.

              The Top, bottom plates are made out of 304 SS .500 thick or 1/2inch

              Body: Is a 8" tube heat sized to make it round the trimmed to 10"

              Shims: also made from 304 SS @ .1875 thick or 3/16inch

              The Drive discs and the stationary discs are made from mild steal @ .0625 or 1/16inch
              I had them laser cut from Brill metal works out of Medford Or. ( they did the work and supplied the metal cheaper then I could buy the metal so it was kinda of a no brainner to have the do that work for me
              the drive shaft it 5/8 bar stock from Ace hardware

              Oil: 100% organic soy been oil from Wal-Mart
              the heater take about 1 US gal. to fill up
              I am running 24 discs total so that is 12 drive disc and 12 stationary discs stacked up in between the drive shims and the stationary shims.
              The discs spacing is .0625 or 1/16inch between the drivers and stationary

              Stationary Disc: OD @ 7.75inch with a 1.5 hole is the center.

              Drive Disc: 7.00 inch with a 5/8 hole in the center for the drive shaft to slide through with a keyway slot cut out to hold the discs.

              Then I used a high temp 700F caulking to seal it all up.
              Hi Slapstick you said you did alot of disks? Is this instead of the inner container drum you mean?
              Thanks for sharing

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              • #67
                Originally posted by slapstick View Post
                nice build m8!
                Is that lexan? I was thinking of making one out of lexan just as a demo for people to see the inside. Did you get any heat from the drum on drum? I was thinking of making a drum on drum with 3/32 clearance between them. I have found out that only with very close tolerances is when you get REALLY good results. Now mind you I am using nothing but 100% organic oils!! I really cant stand for the use of fossil oils.
                Yes, I got some heat, about 80 degree celsius. I found that the thicker the oil the greater friction and thus faster heating. I did not have a means to measure the input and output powers since it was powered by a 3phase vertical drill. I just played around. The material was acrylic and the spacing about 5mm, that is because I just had such tube diameters available. Your design looks far more effective.
                Thanks for sharing!
                Jetijs
                It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Guruji View Post
                  Hi Slapstick you said you did alot of disks? Is this instead of the inner container drum you mean?
                  Thanks for sharing
                  Yep check out my youtube vid and you will see how I did it.

                  Friction heater that gets up to 300F @ 100 watts of power - YouTube
                  Last edited by slapstick; 06-02-2012, 09:59 AM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
                    Yes, I got some heat, about 80 degree celsius. I found that the thicker the oil the greater friction and thus faster heating. I did not have a means to measure the input and output powers since it was powered by a 3phase vertical drill. I just played around. The material was acrylic and the spacing about 5mm, that is because I just had such tube diameters available. Your design looks far more effective.
                    Thanks for sharing!
                    Jetijs
                    Has anyone tried to build a horizontal version of this heater ? I played around with a design and woulld like to know what everyone thinks. Don't know if it will work... but it seems possible..??
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