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  • If you want a moderate vacuum, the cheapest way I found is to modify a cheap 12v. It is an easy mod and the costs will be at about 10-15$
    It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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    • i was looking at cheap ways of getting a partial vaccum last night....you can get vacuum bags for storing clothes etc which come with a pump...i might go and check them out to see if i can do another dodgey build with it somehow....maybe use the valve from the bag on my spaghetti container (greys tube). Then pump the air out as best i can
      Last edited by nat1971a; 01-21-2009, 05:07 AM.

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      • hi jetijs

        do you have any more details on this mod?

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        • Yes.



          This is what you usually find inside a 12V car tire compressor. On the upper side of the vertical cylinder there is a pipe where the compressed air goes through the pressure gauge and then to the tire. But there is also a small hole on the top side of that cylinder through which the air is sucked in the cylinder. All you have to do is to attach a fitting to that hole and you will get a vacuum pump. I hope you understood
          It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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          • yes very good ...i like it...cheers i will look into that too.

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            • Originally posted by nat1971a View Post
              Beshires...i know how frustrating this is...i am starting to getting tired of it myself......so much money and time has been put into this with very little to show for it....

              But i feel like we are so close to getting some results.....change is coming...i can feel it.......

              ....i just think we havent mastered producing a proper electro radiant event yet. I will persist on ....time permitting...this is our future....we must succeed.......it has been done...all we have to do is find the missing pieces of the puzzle.
              I'm not frustrated, I'm disappointed. Ever here about "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"? Well I'm dropping the rope. Some prefer to follow a BLIND Horse. I will say this the tube by its self will not produce a radiant event. It is produced by a series of electrical events that are happening in various places all over the Grey Motor. Without reproducing these events as they are supposed to happen it will not be done. One thing I found out the stored energy in the capacitor is the key. The Grey Tube is the passage.
              Last edited by Beshires1; 01-21-2009, 12:25 PM.

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              • Car tyre pump mod

                THANKYOU!

                Where were you when I was trying to make vacuum tubes out of car tail light bulbs??

                Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                • @ beshres1

                  Time will tell who is right and wrong or less right or less wrong.

                  To each their own pursuits, daft endeavors and impressions found. One man wonders at the night sky, another imitates the bird. No matter the path that each one takes, regardless how absurd, it is the passion that sustains us, and leads us farther from the herd. And there alone, whilst reaching for the moon, will lady luck, our passion's fire foresee - and chance deliver us a boon. Then ere the day with dawn shall rise the vision that we gleaned.
                  Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                  • After thinking about this some more.....

                    remember gray mentioned he built the system after watching lightning and more air had something to do with it. Well i think this is really only halve of the story.

                    Now i am no expert in this area so i am just thinking out aloud

                    There would be less air at higher altitudes where the lightning forms and more air where the lightning lands.

                    So if the neutrinos hit water/ice that is in the rain clouds then a potential surely forms (just like in our HV capacitor) to such an extent that it produces a lightning discharge through less air in the beginning and more air at the destination in an enclosure - the atmosphere is the enclosure (which is the gray tube)

                    perhaps the analogy isnt quite accurate but surely outlines the process. Less air i presume may give us faster than light discharge speed which then slows down to light speed which may distort the aether enough to generate excess energy.

                    Now if i remember right this is exactly what Meyl said somewhere as i wrote it down in my notes at home.

                    So it seems that all the info that Meyl, Gray, Aaron, Tesla and crookes have provided.....fit along this line of thinking....this could be the missing piece of the puzzle

                    Last edited by nat1971a; 01-21-2009, 10:36 PM.

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                    • A Helicopter hovering high in the sky on a dry sunny day, lowers a steel cable to earth, a worker must discharge the cable before touching it or the charge could kill him.

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                      • A little experiment today. I discharged a capacitor that was charged with 70VDC into a large popping coil that has iron cores. and launched a 4 pound magnet 6".
                        Last edited by Beshires1; 02-16-2009, 03:07 AM.

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                        • Dr. Beshires1: That is SO incredible!! I'm just glad I was around when you made your breakthrough!

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                          • Thanks Tek, Glad you're here to be sharing it with. The Bigger coils were to give me an idea of how much power It would take to launch a large motor size magnet.

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                            • Originally posted by Beshires1 View Post
                              A little experiment today. I discharged a capacitor that was charged with 70VDC into a large popping coil that has iron cores. and launched a 4 pound magnet 6".[ATTACH]1968[/ATTACH]
                              Did you just discharge an ordinary cap into those coils in series? Without CSET and any other circuits? If so, then I don't see anything unusual there.
                              It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                              • Found the info on what meyl was proposing
                                Konstantin Meyl Speaks Neutrino Power and the Existence of Scalar Waves

                                He also presented the theory that neutrinos are scalar waves moving faster than the speed of light. When moving at the speed of light, they are photons. When a neutrino is slowed to below the speed of light, it becomes an electron. Neutrinos can oscillate between e- and e+. Fusion involves e-, and a lightning flash involves e+. Energy in a vortex acts as a frequency converter. The measurable mixture of frequencies is called noise.

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