Regarding The Ed Gray Motor

[Beshires1]

Here's a photo of my new vacuum pump (modded air compressor)
I have added a connector to the air compressor and hose and valve tap.

Hey nat1971a, I'm just curious, I was wondering if you pull a negative 14.7 psi does that mean that the vacuum containing vessel has about 29.4 psi or two atmospheres of pressure pressing on the outside of the container?

[nat1971a]

what you refer to is exactly what Tesla devised as a thought experiment for everyone apparently

please read this pdf which was originally posted by allcanadian

[Beshires1]

Damn I guess great minds think alike! Some reason my PC won't let me open the pdf.

[nat1971a]

Here's the text. I think it could be relevant to the gray tube

Nicola Tesla’s Thought experiment:
A few years ago I read a lecture once given by Nicola Tesla and in this lecture
Tesla proposed a very clever thought experiment. The thought experiment Tesla
proposed was that work or the equivalency of work could be performed and the
work output in the system could be much greater than the input as long as the
input was “transformed” in some way. The implications of this thought experiment
had a great impact on myself in that it established a basic process whereby
energy could be extracted from the local environment on a continuous basis.
Tesla’s thought experiment started with a closed metal tank at the bottom of a
lake and it was considered that the external pressure would be much greater
than the internal pressure. If a valve attached to the tank was opened then water
would enter the tank due to the pressure differential and this motion of water from
high pressure to lower pressure could perform work in a turbine. The problem
was that in order to perform continuous work the tank would need to be emptied
and the work to pump the water out would always be greater than the energy
produced by the water rushing in through the turbine. This would seem obvious
but then Tesla proposed that if the water were transformed into something else,
that is water in a different state, then this work equivalency of input/output may
no longer apply. Next, Tesla considered that if the water in the tank which has
performed work in a turbine on entering the tank was transformed by splitting the
water into hydrogen and oxygen then the water is in fact in a different state.
I found this thought experiment absolutely fascinating because I had never
considered the fact that a media could be transformed to change the conditions
present in the system. I then went about proving Tesla’s thought experiment in
reality and was very surprised at the results!
My thought experiment started with a metal tank at the bottom of a lake, this tank
had an opening with a water turbine generator attached to this opening so that
the water entering the tank must perform work though the turbine.
An electrical generator is attached to the water turbine and this generator powers
electrolysis plates inside the metal tank which will split water into HHO or hydroxy
gas. Also attached to this tank is a pipe which would lead to the surface of the
lake to atmospheric conditions and this pipe would allow the HHO gas to vent to
atmosphere or be utilized to run an internal combustion engine. My reasoning
that this system might work was that the water pressure external to the tank
increases with the water depth quite drastically while the pressure in the HHO
pipe would seem to increase very little as it is open to atmosphere at the top. I
then wrote some software to calculate the exact depth at which the high pressure
water turbine/generator could perform enough work to turn all of the water
entering into HHO gas.
At one point the equations did in fact balance and all of the water entering the
tank is transformed into HHO gas as fast as the water can enter the tank. So
here we have a situation where the system becomes self-sustaining, that is all
the water entering the tank leaves as HHO gas and the work to do this is
perfectly balanced. What was not apparent initially was the fact that in this case
the HHO gas at the top of the pipe is essentially “free” and required no work to
produce because the HHO gas was produced by the energy from the water
entering the tank. As well the efficiency of the mechanical components may vary
but the fact remains that at some depth the forces of input/output must balance
and this has no effect on the HHO gas. For myself this was proof that a selfsustaining
system was possible and that useful
amounts of energy could be extracted from what is essentially an “open system”.
I imagine some of you still have a question rolling around in your mind, that is
“where did the energy come from?”, it came from the water pressure at the
bottom of the lake which was provided by Gravity!. This gravitational force also
acted on the pipe full of HHO gas but the HHO gas has very little mass thus the
pressure inside the tank will be very low compared to that outside the tank

[Beshires1]

He guys. I'm now able to pop the popping coil with the output from the Grey tube (grids), using no relay. I blew up my relay , found out I didn,t need it anyway.

[Beshires1]

Radiant Event

I have gotten a radiant event I think. Fixin to video it, film will be dark but it should show up well. You guys wanna see it?

[Electrotek]

I'd love to see it, if it isn't too long. My download time is 7 or 8 times the length of the video.

[Beshires1]

Just finished filming a event! had to watch it and back it up and watch different things happening all at once. I am fixin to upload. Hey Tek, check your e-mail.

[Electrotek]

All right, Doc! Thanks.

[Beshires1]

Here it is I think I have filmed a radiant event from the grey tube. The flash is brighter than shown in the video. The piece I am touching to trigger this is supposed to happen in the commutator. Watchit then back it up and watch the tube then the popping coil. Filming Radiant events has made me tired. but I'll Stay up awhile.
Ed Grey Tube First Radiant Event

[Electrotek]

That picture looks great! I'm going to watch your video no matter how long it takes to download.

[Beshires1]

Oh yea, I have expanded metal rolled up like a log and about 3/16" gap between grid and electrodes. their gap is only about 1/8". You can not see the arc jumping between electrodes, but it is there. Just watch the tube when this happens.

[Electrotek]

I can't get your video to download. I've tried twice, and it goes to 1:16 then stops. I've given it over an hour, but that's as far as it gets.

Also, the insulation on those pliers isn't rated for HV. If you try that with an NST it might be Lights Out.

Did you see my video last week? Is your Radiant Event different?

[Beshires1]

I can't get your video to download. I've tried twice, and it goes to 1:16 then stops. I've given it over an hour, but that's as far as it gets.

Also, the insulation on those pliers isn't rated for HV. If you try that with an NST it might be Lights Out.

Did you see my video last week? Is your Radiant Event different?

That is the entire video. The flash you see at the end is it. Back the film up after the flash, don't watch my hand with the pliers watch the tube. then back it up and watch the popping coil. The camera does not do justice to actual brightness of what I saw. It happens so damn fast you just can,t see everything unless your lookin at the other objects at the instant it happens.

I'm really not sure what the heck is happening , the plars are so I dont explode like my relay did. Yes, I saw your video and I have to say that yes it is quite different. You can't see any sparking from the tube until it happens then its sorta like the flash of lightening without seeing the long streaking bolt. and nothing is happening where I'm touching the pliers until It gets ready to happen. It seems like the longer the system is run after the first discharge the more frequent it becomes to trigger the next one. That one in the video is just the first event it produced from startup. And It seems that the power of each is kinda random too. Again everything you see is being powered by one small 12V Battery. So I'm probably working on the minimum of having the power to produce it. If I connect the green wire to the trigger bar it won't happen.

Update: here is a frame shot of the event.
http://sites.google.com/site/chasing...nt%20Event.jpg

[Electrotek]

Thanks for the screen shot.

It looks like the spark in your Tube is expanded, towards one side, and is touching both the electrodes and the grid. This seems to be conduction, rather than induction.