Capturing Radiant Energy

[Von]

Hi all.

I've been watching and reading the experiments that are conducted by many in here. I have also noted that some of you are using ground rods to pick up energy outside of your circuits. I'm posting this not to be negative about your projects, but just wanted you all to be aware of some potential problems with using ground rods. I have posted the link below for everyones consideration.

Why Ground Currents?


Von

[wpage]

What is alternative to ground?

Von,
Yes to your point...

However on all circuits there is current flowing to ground.

What else is there?

[DavidE]

I always laugh at the term "stray currents"... as if they didn't know where they were going.

[Von]

The reason I posted it, was because when some of you are using the ground rod, and claiming to give extra energy, one needs to be aware that our local electric system is using neutral and ground as a return to the generating plant, and its possible to pick up such energy in your experiments, thinking it was a new energy source, when it may actually be the local ground currents you are picking up.

Its kind of like when you can touch the neutral wire without getting a shock, until you run a device on that circuit, and then getting a shock. Its all about potential difference.

Von

[Bodkins]

I aggree with some of what you are saying but if your think about a battery, It has postive and negative like the grid has. If i connect the negative the motor runs, but if i use the sg to pump for the ground enegy into the system thats not for the grid its the potential difference like you say.

if you look at this product you can see the other side of energy capture story.
Device Can Cut Energy Use by 10% -- Just Plug It In! | RiverWired

[Aaron]

power factor correction

Hi Bodkins,

Thats a nice little product. Basically, it is probably just a capacitor inside the case for power factor correction. Pretty spendy for what it is but they do work.

Some homes using this method have mixed results since everyone's power usage is so different.

I've seen maybe 4-5 companies selling these systems..basically a capacitor in a box. Most companies that make them intend for them to be plugged into the power breaker panel but what is nice about this one is that is just plugs into an outlet making it even easier.

[ashtweth]

Hi Guys, yes power factor correction is very underrated, check this guy out, he had the same thing he got suppressed tho as far asi can see , Thanks for the info on this PF device Bodkins, will add it to the data and compilations.

Chuck Larue
Stockton Engineer Creates Energy Saving Device - Topix


Ash

[Bodkins]

a little cheaper ash
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and one for the uk at £5
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[Druide]

Would be interresting to replicate this kind of device.

Did anyone reverse engineered this and get a circuit schematic ?

Michel

[DavidE]

Von



Do you not find it interesting that physics laws suggest
energy cannot be created or destroyed... but every 'stray'
volt BELONGS to the ownership of the grid?

-The larger truth is that it never was theirs.
-I agree to always pay what they ask, let the
meter be my final witness.
-All other source energy is universally waiting,
for those who learn how to open the door.

"Energy can be changed from one form to another, but it
cannot be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy
and matter in the Universe remains constant, merely changing
from one form to another."

[DavidE]

Capacitors, Power Factor: Nakahoma reduces energy consumption, increase energy savings with capacitators - power factor correction equipment

Check out the Beer analogy!!!

I guess they figured who their target market is!!!

Just think!!! Exclusively through power factor correction
you can save on your power bill and buy more BEER!!!

[Aaron]

beer economics

David,

Here is some beer economics
http://www.energeticforum.com/genera...nvestment.html

[DavidE]

Oops.. double post.

[DavidE]

Aaron

Should I laugh or cry?

OK, I will just buy more beer!

Hey... have a Thule on me...

Thule beer brewed with our pure Icelandic water. Price is for a six pack. The nicest beer in the world. Thule has a medium bitter flavor with a pleasant tang of hops, leaving a subtle aftertaste. Light gold in color, it is modeled like Viking on the Pilsner tradition. Alcohol content 5.0% Thule was rated third of 514 beers tasted by the Danish Beer-Lovers' Association (Dansk ĝlnyderforening) in 1998. Its quality, the tasters reported, "came as a nice surprise." Thule is the second-most sold beer at ÁTVR (Iceland's state alcohol monopoly stores) after Viking, and by far the most popular bottled beer sold in Iceland.

[Joit]

Ok Lession learned.
Put a Capacitor infront from the Motor and a Cold Beer.