Condensation-Induced Water Hammer

[tutanka]

How do you do that?

There are some ways.. depend what do you want to realize..

Here you can found good info about the VAPORIC FORCE that I call HYDROGEN BOND ENERGY ..

SVPwiki : Keelys Vaporic Force

I have extracted this:

In the first chamber of the generator is air, and all that is necessary to get the first start is to stimulate this air by vibrations and thus create a small disturbance. Water dropped into it will do that.
When the air gets into a second chamber it comes in contact with the vibratory ether which acts upon the water and the air in such a way as to separate the particles of water and air.
Expansion follows, and the force thus generated is irresistible.


Keely use an "CLOSED CIRCUIT" and the pressure generated inside from the VAPORIC FORCE is ONLY an electron avalanche reaction with AIR that is simple and genial MEDIUM for trapping the bonding electrons.

Air is clearly compressed and water is mixed to air creating an MOIST AIR (ionized).
At this point the MECHANICAL WORK (collision) is an simple way probably used also from Keely , an good example can be the ARMSTRONG HYDRO MACHINE Hydro-Electrical Machine

Here Lord Armstrong don't use the AIR for absorb the bonding electrons.

Him produce steam on pressure with an wood boiler, make partial condensation with an water cooled circuit for produce an mechanic collision on the brass nozzle (with an special design) with the WATER DROPLETS for remove (and absorb) the bonding electrons. As final result in output produce an electrostatic repulsion flow of water droplets positively charged.

Of course.. Lord Armstrong is focalized to produce electrostatic electricity and in fact don't has idea what type of energy has really discovered.. but this is always the HYDROGEN BOND ENERGY!!!!!!!

[tutanka]

How Keely Motor works

Water hammer is caused by a stream of water being shut off quickly.

The trailing edge of the water stream (next to the shutoff valve) becomes rarefied (partial vacuum) and forms into a negative pressure area filled with a sensitized vapor composed of water, air and any gases that may have been present in the water.

This vapor is the first stage or the basic form of Keely's etheric vapor.

The negative pressure cell collapses when the water stream bounces back against the shutoff valve.

The physics of these actions and reactions is fascinating and promises so much for development that we will all be very busy developing them for years to come. In the Keely Motor the water is first drawn into the central pulsating vacuum chamber by a light vacuum formed when the pistons pull water into the system. This vacuum chamber maintains a steady negative pressure on the water from this point on. Between the vacuum chamber and the pistons are two valves. The first is a one-way check valve which serves to maintain the vacuum in the centra! pulsating vacuurn chamber yet allows the pistons to pull water into itself as it is needed. The second valve is quite ingenious and simple. Its function is: 1) to allow water into the piston, 2) close for implosion and then 3) to allow drainage of the spent water. The water then passes directly into the piston during its up (suction) stroke. The valve rotates shutting off the water stream just as the piston reaches its apex and cavitates which brings the piston down again. Instantly the valve rotates a little more opening two exhaust ports and the water is pushed and drained out through the bottom. This is all there is to the Keely motor.

It is simple, elegant and functional. Rules of thumb are: 1) the more vacuum the better the cavitation, 2) the greater the velocity of the water the better the cavitation.

[wyndbag]

Fascinating....

I am not really a mechanic. My interest in this topic arises out of my knowledge of a Chiropractic method called NUCCA. The NUCCA method uses internal tension generated by the chiropractor to generate a force with minimal pressure on the client. When it all comes together there is an enigmatic click. I believe it is a form of water hammer.

Traditional technique generally involves rotation of the vertebra. NUCCA uses a rectilinear force not a rotatory one. Trying to unravel the mystery of this "click" became a quest of mine for a time. The answer eluded me until I learned about water hammer.

Not only does this subject have great potential for cleaner energy , but also for healing.
I hope this thread continues to develop. Thanks for sharing. Merry Christmas.

[Sputins]

Heart hammer.

Sort of off the direct topic, but in regards to Water Hammer I’ll mention this. (This would almost deserve its own thread).

Dr Tom Cowan, who learned this from Dr. Gerald Pollack, tells you how the heart works and why the heart does not follow the common "Pump Theory." Nothing in allopathic medicine would lead you to this understanding today.

The fourth Phase of Water creates an EZ layer next to a hydrophilic substance, (such as a capillary), the charge separation is then induced which causes the blood to flow in the body. The heart acts to momentarily stop the flow, which induces a hydraulic ram like action, (water-hammer) and gives rise to a high pressure, in very basic terms.

Novel Treatment Options for Heart Disease

[RAMSET]

This is a jaw dropping revelation IMO

Sputins
Dr.Pollacks work gives a whole new direction to consider in a body made up of mostly water.

Yes it should have its own thread .

thank you sooo much for sharing this !
[This EECP is intriguing too]


respectfully
Chet K

[wrtner]

How about starting here:

1. A water tank, positioned reasonably high up.
2. A standard pvc pipe coming down to ground level
3. A stopcock valve with a very sharp response.
4. A water pump to circulate the water back up to the top.

1. We let water flow down the pipe ensuring calm flow, no bubbles
2. Slam on the stopcock.

Either:
1. The column of water may hit the stopcock, bounce back, creating a partial vacuum.
or:
2. The column of water beyond the stopcock carries on, creating a partial vacuum between the top of this column and the valve.

The partial vacuum is what needs to be used to provide excess energy. How do we handle it? It could suck a weight up a ratchet shaft. It could be part of a cyclical system with the stopcock closing and opening at regular intervals. What else?

[Sputins]

Sputins
Dr.Pollacks work gives a whole new direction to consider in a body made up of mostly water.

Yes it should have its own thread .

thank you sooo much for sharing this !
[This EECP is intriguing too]


respectfully
Chet K

Chet, yeah it dropped my jaw too!

It just goes to show, (yet again) that what we thought we know is wrong or 180 degrees the other way.

This concept of the heart is exciting to learn about it, & it might affect one’s own health or others in a positive way.

If you visit here: https://www.humanheartcosmicheart.com/ there are some interesting articles .pdf’s under “News” tab, certainly worth a read.

In my view the same analogous “water hammer” principal here, is behind the Tesla impulse apparatus… Only electrical in its nature.

Dr Pollack’s work is certainly a massive discovery that can lead to new paths of understanding in many different, yet related fields, where and how hydrophobic and particularly hydrophilic materials interact with water. Couple that knowledge with Polack’s recent TEDx talk, “Water, Cells and Life”, where some of our cells energy comes from light. – The knowledge of all this together is revolutionary for sure, like we can’t even imagine!

[tutanka]

Sort of off the direct topic, but in regards to Water Hammer I’ll mention this. (This would almost deserve its own thread).

Dr Tom Cowan, who learned this from Dr. Gerald Pollack, tells you how the heart works and why the heart does not follow the common "Pump Theory." Nothing in allopathic medicine would lead you to this understanding today.

The fourth Phase of Water creates an EZ layer next to a hydrophilic substance, (such as a capillary), the charge separation is then induced which causes the blood to flow in the body. The heart acts to momentarily stop the flow, which induces a hydraulic ram like action, (water-hammer) and gives rise to a high pressure, in very basic terms.

Novel Treatment Options for Heart Disease

The thread is named: Condensation-Induced Water Hammer

I have explain simply what happens when the water droplets collides against a wall and the phenomenon that move water hammer is the hydrogen bond energy.

Why nobody uses this force natural or artificial for produce electric energy directly?

[Sputins]

The thread is named: Condensation-Induced Water Hammer

I have explain simply what happens when the water droplets collides against a wall and the phenomenon that move water hammer is the hydrogen bond energy.

Why nobody uses this force natural or artificial for produce electric energy directly?

It is not the intent to side-track this thread too far.

I’ve read about condensation induced water-hammer as opposed to conventional water-hammer where the condensation induced water hammer can be 10 to 100 times greater.

I don’t know much about the Keely’s machines, but I can understand the basic principle, of a depressurised or evacuated zone, in front a water hammer event.

Certainly all these factors together when water vapour condenses, water hammer action and also considering the electrical nature of water, the whole business of this has loads of areas for research & experiments.

[tutanka]

It is not the intent to side-track this thread too far.

I’ve read about condensation induced water-hammer as opposed to conventional water-hammer where the condensation induced water hammer can be 10 to 100 times greater.

I don’t know much about the Keely’s machines, but I can understand the basic principle, of a depressurised or evacuated zone, in front a water hammer event.

Certainly all these factors together when water vapour condenses, water hammer action and also considering the electrical nature of water, the whole business of this has loads of areas for research & experiments.

Sure the energy released on water-hammer is bigger .. because the impact of water on closed valve releases the bonding electrons . This is mechanical chemistry and we don't have to forget that normally water contain air that is as SPONGE for these electrons.. the water-hammer effect force happens ONLY in presence of COLLISION and water is inelastic..

[Gdez]

wave pump

Toribio Bellocq: Wave Pump

[Bob Smith]

Toribio Bellocq: Wave Pump

Nice find!

In Bellocq's pump a piston vibrates rapidly with an extremely short stroke. It deals hammerlike blows to a column of water in a pipe. His theory is that when the frequency of the blows is properly timed for the length of the pipe, a series of "stationary waves" is set up.

Suppose the pipe's bottom to be closed, then layers are formed where the water is alternately rarefied and compressed without moving. Midway between these and at the bottom are regions where water rushes alternately up and down because of the waves.

When a one-way ball valve is added at the bottom, water enters from outside at one point in each wave cycle, to replace water moving upward from the bottom of the pipe. Once inside, it cannot back out. Every influx of water "inches" the whole column upward, without interfering with the waves that travel through it. A valve at the outlet, while not essential, improves the efficiency.

The one way ball valve at the bottom and piston at the top. I wonder if there'd be a simple way to reproduce this.

Edit: Off-topic additional thought. I wonder if this setup has an electrical equivalent. Could the well be the aether, the one way ball valve be a zener diode, the piston a cap perhaps... I'll take this thought elsewhere so as not to muck up the train of this thread.