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  • #31
    Dmonarch thank you for the thread. Now I'm more clear on Testatika and principle of how it works.
    Mike

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    • #32
      What have you gleaned

      Do tell what have you gleaned?

      Originally posted by mlurye View Post
      Dmonarch thank you for the thread. Now I'm more clear on Testatika and principle of how it works.

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      • #33
        In general all information is here Electrostatic generator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Materials that Cause Static Electricity - Succeed in Physical Science: School for Champions and here The Principle Experiments of the Back-Engineered Methernitha Testatika Notes.
        The way I understood is: If you'll put initial charge on Acrylic surface with Aluminum (+) on one side and Brass (-) on other side. You will get polarized (in a sense) capacitor were positive ions on one side and negative ones on other. Based on "Principle Experiment" for Testatika you have to have same stack of plates under the prime plate (they should be primed with charge too) with corresponding polarity. When you will move top plate and my theory is correct the capacitor(s) connected to opposite sites of stack plates will charge with impulses.
        Last edited by mlurye; 12-25-2008, 12:34 PM.
        Mike

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        • #34
          Excellent

          That does sound positive. I never new that about the acrylic and two plates. Do the metal plates have to be of different type for the capacitor effect to work is it just the priming that matter. That is a cool way of making a permanently charged capacitor very similar to an electret but at the same very different. I do thinking priming is the key just look at the ssg you have to prime the wheel. By priming you set up a pattern of excesss around which the system builds rather than deficiency.

          Originally posted by mlurye View Post
          In general all information is here Electrostatic generator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Materials that Cause Static Electricity - Succeed in Physical Science: School for Champions and here The Principle Experiments of the Back-Engineered Methernitha Testatika Notes.
          The way I understood is: If you'll put initial charge on Acrylic surface with Aluminum (+) on one side and Brass (-) on other side. You will get polarized (in a sense) capacitor were positive ions on one side and negative ones on other. Based on "Principle Experiment" for Testatika you have to have same stack of plates under the prime plate (they should be primed with charge too) with corresponding polarity. When you will move top plate and my theory is correct the capacitor(s) connected to opposite sites of stack plates will charge with impulses.

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          • #35
            Novel electric field generation

            Looks patrick flanagan has already done experiementation with metal particles in a dialetric sandwhich to hv plates. Heres the patent
            Electron field generator - Google Patents

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            • #36
              With the help of a great friend i can put this up
              http://archive.beinsa.info/Electrici...20(TEC@NZ).pdf

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              • #37
                DIELECTRIC MATERIAL - Google Patents

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                • #38
                  Getting close to finally making Electret

                  Progress update;

                  Deep thoughts
                  Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Bodkins View Post
                    With the help of a great friend i can put this up
                    http://archive.beinsa.info/Electrici...20(TEC@NZ).pdf
                    This link seem to be broken.
                    Could you check it please.
                    Remember to be kind to your mind ...
                    Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Vortex View Post
                      This link seem to be broken.
                      Could you check it please.
                      Nightmare is was fine
                      It was how to make a cap that wound never lose its charge, you discharge it,sort it, then its charges up from the Vacum with no input, the end results was 50volts at 3 amps for ever!!!I have a hard copy will photo and post, till then read this its the same thing really
                      Web Info
                      Electrets

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                        There are about 5-10 'good' web pages on Electrets on the internet. I've spent 3 DAYS searching thru at least a THOUSAND probably more pages thru google, and 5-10 is all... oh, there are an abundance of microphone pages.. But actual Electrets? 10 max. Any other 'promising' pages require your credit card and thus your address.

                        Smacks of suppression and control of information. Type in 'bedini' and 'schoolgirl' and the hits greatly outnumber any combination of 'Electret' 'rosin' 'resin' 'wax' 'Carnauba' 'water-white' 'dielectric' etc etc etc......

                        The mere absence of information makes me super keen to research 'Electret'... Hope some people follow me and dmonarch. Strange how many helicopters been flying overhead recently.. Even at work. Hope against hope I'm just being 'paranoid'
                        Try this link : Electrets date:1800-1900
                        Teflon electrets .. The first link is a patent explaining some details.
                        Last edited by Vortex; 01-29-2009, 04:51 AM. Reason: added last link
                        Remember to be kind to your mind ...
                        Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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                        • #42
                          Electret

                          Just came across this link on electrets. Gives a nice bit of info on how to quicken the charge process by placing metal particles in the resin and putting a magnet on its side once set.
                          As well goes it saying that a magnet when moved over the electret is push outwards rather than upwards.
                          Also i was thinking that if you made an electret you could break it up into bits and each bit would retain its polarization like a hologram.
                          heres the link
                          Electret Q&A - 02/07/01

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                          • #43
                            Hello you just posting my electrat making video hope they are of use to you

                            YouTube - Atenna Electret

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                            • #44
                              Rock Electret or Storage Battery!!

                              I found this. I don't know if it has been posted in relation to electrets.
                              I'm still reading this web page ..but this is worth posting about.

                              Storage of Electricity in Rocks.
                              In this respect it is similar to electrets which may be shorted and then return
                              to normal when the short is removed. Hence, we may again refer to rocks as
                              geo-electrets (Sec. 172).
                              There is this difference. Carnauba wax electrets retain a high voltage but can
                              support virtually no current. Geo-electrets seem to be able to support
                              large currents, depending upon the size. Large
                              rocks may conceivably provide substantial current.

                              This places the geo-electret in the class of a chemical cell or storage battery,
                              and may, as a matter of speculation, find an application commercially as an
                              energy storage means.

                              One may picture large blocks of granite, connected in series, as equivalent to
                              storage batteries --- with the advantage of not requiring service or
                              replacement and conceivably having indefinite, unlimited life.
                              ROCK ON
                              Remember to be kind to your mind ...
                              Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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                              • #45
                                Storage of Electricity in Rocks

                                Isn`t that what Hutchinson has been trying to do?
                                There is a whole thread over at overunity where people have tried to
                                come up with significant currents out of this, but none really managed
                                to get the currents close to that of an AA battery. But maybe the huge sized blocks that you talk about might work

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