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  • #46
    Folks,

    Bear in mind that the original tesla switch circuit from Ronald Brandt does not contain any capacitor at the output terminals.

    Capacitor is highly reactive at low frequencies (i.e. Xc = 1/(j*2*pi*C)). The presence of this capacitor at the output is counter-productive if the switching frequency is not high enough. Capacitor itself is not an energy source. Don't waste your time.

    I have not seen any literature from tesla suggesting that the tesla switch circuit on its own is not an overunity system. Most likely, it was a part of the overunity system and was designed to be applied in conjunction with other devices.

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    • #47
      @Anut
      Bear in mind that the original tesla switch circuit from Ronald Brandt does not contain any capacitor at the output terminals.
      Capacitor is highly reactive at low frequencies (i.e. Xc = 1/(j*2*pi*C)). The presence of this capacitor at the output is counter-productive if the switching frequency is not high enough. Capacitor itself is not an energy source. Don't waste your time.
      LOL, you are trying to compare apples and oranges and stating they must be the same.
      Ronald Brandt's device could only power a few lights while the Tesla switch depicted in Patrick Kelly's document states that the circuit once powered a 30Hp motor,Hmmmm, I wonder which circuit I would rather build or choose to understand for that matter. It is also stated that the tesla switch utilized two capacitors and an inductive load, as well it is stated that the minimum switching frequency is 100Hz and the maximum 800Hz, as such you cannot compare the two circuits because the principal of operation is not the same.

      I have not seen any literature from tesla suggesting that the tesla switch circuit on its own is not an overunity system. Most likely, it was a part of the overunity system and was designed to be applied in conjunction with other devices.
      I was never a big fan of baseless opinions and assumptions, I build circuits to prove for myself what is fact and what is not. If you did the same then I do not think you would be making such statements. If you propose to understand everything then perhaps you can tell me what is happening in the waveform I posted previously, the one with two currents flowing simultaneously in a single conductor?
      Last edited by Allcanadian; 11-16-2008, 05:40 PM.

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      • #48
        Well I guess it all opinion. I just try to keep inline with what I read and have experienced. I see things working differently I suppose.

        Matt

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        • #49
          @Matthew Jones
          Well I guess it all opinion. I just try to keep inline with what I read and have experienced. I see things working differently I suppose.
          Well said and I agree 100% , we come to our own understanding in our own time and who is to say what is right and what is wrong. The fact is you help me succeed as much as anything I have done personally, when I am forced to justify my own thoughts from another perspective--yours--then I learn things I could hardly imagine without your help. I find that kind of ironic, whenever someone here questions my perspective I go to the work bench to prove my thoughts as well as their's.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
            @Matthew Jones
            I have found many times I have produced effects or results but I never understood the true nature of the effects. From your scope shot alone I can tell you that you have produced some effects but these are not the effects you want.

            Wrong is a matter of perspective I think Like two men dying of thirst in a desert who start to fight over who will take the first drink from a well they have just stumbled upon,crazy, absurd---yes but they will do it anyways.
            The inductive and capacitive energy make all the difference!
            If you only knew how easy this was I think you would have a very different opinion. Here is the wave form you are looking for, you will notice there are "two" distinct currents, when you understand "why" this is ---your tesla switch can be made to produce 100 times more power. I will let you think about this a bit before I give you the answer, I believe Sephiroth may have found part of the answer already.
            AC, I am still coming to grips with the functioning of my scope, so this question may be a little simple

            How is your scope shot taken, is it the waveform over one coil only? I ask because I have only ever seen shots of singular wave forms, never two ones that seem to merge or transform into another. I have achieved this wave form before, sorry about the photo, you can see me holding the camera more than you can see the wave. It is just like your smaller resonant ring.
            Last edited by ren; 06-13-2009, 12:40 AM.
            "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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            • #51
              @Gotgas
              Thats an intersesting theory and it would seem to make sense but I think it is overly complex. This is much easier than you think, I am in the process of making another Pdf which will explain the exact mechanism for bedini's technology as well as the tesla switch and most important-----Tesla's Magnification Effect. What I mean is "Anyone" will be able to build simple circuits to prove for themselves that the effects are real and in the end that is all that matters. I will post it in the next few days .

              @Ren
              The scope shot posted is Tesla's magnification effect at work, there are two distinct currents. One current creates the other--the other current re-enforces and maintains the initial current, both having very different qualities. When I post my next document everything is going to make more sense, It would take forever to explain it here.

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              • #52
                Complex? Are you joking?

                Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
                @Gotgas
                Thats an intersesting theory and it would seem to make sense but I think it is overly complex. This is much easier than you think, I am in the process of making another Pdf which will explain the exact mechanism for bedini's technology as well as the tesla switch and most important-----Tesla's Magnification Effect. What I mean is "Anyone" will be able to build simple circuits to prove for themselves that the effects are real and in the end that is all that matters. I will post it in the next few days .
                @ AllCanadian, it is hardly a theory. I can provide plenty of peer reviewed science to back it up.

                Perhaps the effect is all that matters to you, but some people want to understand the cause so they can create with intent and intelligence. Monkey see, monkey do is not going to change the world. All physical laws of science are based on effect to keep you ignorant.

                I didn't make the rules, the universe did and I don't understand how my description can be complex, it could not be more simple. I base that on 30 years of research and during those 30 years have never found an exception, not one. I am hardly unfamiliar to the subject at hand.

                As for Tesla's magnifying transmitter / remote power transmitter, you can just buy one for about 1000 bucks from Professor Meryl at Max Plank University all set to go. He was the first to replicate.

                There are three bodies of science:
                1. free energy web sites filled with appropriately named aether and zero point.

                2. The deer in the woods stuff they teach at universities to keep you from understanding what I posted and for obvious reasons but make you a good corporate slave anyway.

                3. What is used at the national labs like Battelle to build advanced weapon systems to make sure you stay an idiot slave.

                Notice in the international test report Meyer signed a document stating that he did not obtain any of the information from NASA? Meyer worked for Battelle Labs and elsewhere.

                So I'll wait so see what what you produce in a few days

                Empirical science might create the square head screw, but it won't put man in space.
                Last edited by Aaron; 11-18-2008, 07:12 AM.

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                • #53
                  @AC
                  Boy you gotta way to bring it out in people! Gets anymore negative around hear I'll have to agree with ya.
                  Based on Murphy's Law. People hate truth.

                  LOL

                  Matt

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
                    @AC
                    Boy you gotta way to bring it out in people! Gets anymore negative around hear I'll have to agree with ya.
                    Based on Murphy's Law. People hate truth.

                    LOL

                    Matt
                    Thanks for the laugh Matt, that one lasted for a full 30 seconds. Yeah, it is frustrating for me. I did all that research and try to openly share that knowledge but people have to have a functioning hippocampus and desire to do critical thinking through puzzle solving.

                    I always say... Intelligence is born out of thought integrity and courage springs forth from love.

                    PS - that would be "here" not hear. :-) Back at ya!
                    Last edited by Aaron; 11-18-2008, 07:09 AM.

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                    • #55
                      @Gotgas
                      I looked at you wave form. Seems you don't know the difference between a transverse wave and a longitudinal wave. That is transverse resonance. It is impossible to build the magnifying transmitter with a transverse wave.
                      Wow, that was quite a response --don't get me wrong here, I did not say I disagreed with you. I understand perfectly well what you said and it makes sense, I have viewed an inductive discharge as a cavitation of sorts for quite some time. As for the wave form I posted, I have found that what this wave does relative to the source is more important than what kind of wave it is. We will agree to disagree to some extent then, I should state for the record that I do not want anyone here to agree with me--- I want you to think about what I have said and draw your own conclusions, do you have some links to your work I can view to better understand your perspective on this subject.
                      Last edited by Allcanadian; 11-17-2008, 01:11 AM.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
                        @Gotgas

                        Wow, that was quite a response --don't get me wrong here, I did not say I disagreed with you. I understand perfectly well what you said and it makes sense, I have viewed an inductive discharge as a cavitation of sorts for quite some time. As for the wave form I posted, I have found that what this wave does relative to the source is more important than what kind of wave it is. We will agree to disagree to some extent then, do you have some links to your work I can view to better understand your perspective on this subject.
                        I have a few other things hidden away but it is in a closed forum.

                        An inductor that is charging will cavitate when eddy current is produced. It will also cavitate during discharge when an eddy current is created. The eddy current is the effect of a cavitation. That science is solid and peer reviewed. It occurs through a process known as Aharonov Bohm effect.

                        If you are claiming to be able to recreate the Tesla magnifying transmitter.

                        I'll be patient and await with baited breath for your promised paper in a few days.

                        The universe is not a complicated place hence the "there are only so many ways to skin a cat" statement.

                        Do you think I would post something titled "How all free energy machines work" purely out of hubris? I enjoy having a modicum of credibility.

                        Occam's razor - lex parsimoniae. That is me and just happens to be how the universe is once all the magical thinking has been stripped away.

                        If you could ever find the flaw in what I wrote, I would truly love to hear about it. I spent 30 years looking. I could have easily wrote a book titled " How All Free Energy Machines Work" So that information is a product of my life and much of what I have. I gave it you for free. Enjoy, it is simple, true and real.
                        Last edited by Aaron; 11-18-2008, 07:07 AM.

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                        • #57
                          @Gotgas
                          Oh, what I meant was do you have links to your work other than an anonymous post made in a public forum, I mean pictures, circuit diagrams, peer review, documents ect.... . it sounds like a good concept as you say and I would like to know more.

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                          • #58
                            If my observation is worth something, the waveform in your photo simply represents a damped ac current in the circuit, as usually occurred in other passive LRC networks. There is nothing really unusual in this waveform.


                            Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
                            I was never a big fan of baseless opinions and assumptions, I build circuits to prove for myself what is fact and what is not. If you did the same then I do not think you would be making such statements. If you propose to understand everything then perhaps you can tell me what is happening in the waveform I posted previously, the one with two currents flowing simultaneously in a single conductor?
                            Last edited by anut; 11-17-2008, 02:26 AM.

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                            • #59
                              @ AllCanadian

                              I'll give you some more to think about before you write that dissotation.

                              Tesla understood cavitation quite well. Have a look at his manifold patent. It is all about cavitation and producing free energy. He spent most of his life finding ways to produce and transmit energy. What a dichotomy that he worked for J.P. Morgan who was one of the central bankers that brought about the macro economic system based in debt that we all suffer under now.

                              Here is a video for a self running free energy machine

                              Can you spot the cavitation that makes it work? The pump is a turbo pump and the tank is shallow and so the pump sucks air, the impeller cavitates and that converts mass from the water and impeller into energy.

                              The second cavitation most likely takes place with the nozzle. The water is pulsing and then it is forced to go through the nozzle and so we produce what is known as a water hammer or cavitation.

                              So how could we improve his machine? We could tune the distance between the pump and the nozzle, we could shape the nozzle inlet to produce more water hammer, we could replace the flexible tubing with a rigid pipe and best of all, we could add a Tesla manifold prior to the nozzle.

                              You see, a verifiable free energy machine and there is the cavitation.

                              The Tesla manifold will not just work for a fluid, it will also work for charged particles.

                              Most people think that a magnet is some invisible magical force. In reality, the magnet is showering off pieces of mass. The pieces are smaller than an electron so they they go right through something like wood or your hand. But.. by freezing a superconducting material the atoms are squeezed together so tightly, that the magnet pins above the superconductor.

                              An electromagnet is really no different in that particles of mass are being transmitted through the space around it. Be it between the inductor or between the primary and secondary of a transformer, tiny pieces of mass are being transferred.

                              So understanding is key to build a free energy machine. That is why I shared with you the process of converting mass and energy back and forth. Suddenly the world is not such a magical place and little things like a cavitation pump free energy device are so understandable and explainable.



                              YouTube - Pistol Shrimp
                              Last edited by Aaron; 11-18-2008, 07:05 AM.

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                              • #60
                                @Gotgas
                                Damn, that was cool--I like the pistol shrimp video, we learn something new everyday.

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