The Great Global Warming Swindle

[Joit]

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[Aaron]

scientific quackery

Jibbguy,

I agree with most of what you say but grouping together both sides as a crime for politicizing this issue is NOT the same thing as being a crime against humanity to manipulate data, hiding it and having politicians and media cover it up.

In either case, propaganda is one of the easiest ways to control the masses. You say they are doing this to divide people. I don't believe that. It is in the globalists best interest to unite the masses under one bogus belief to pass their agenda, just like working to unite Americans against the perpetrators of 9/11 to pass their agenda. Most likely the two main possibilities of who leaked the emails is either an insider whistleblower or Russian secret service.

With AWG, they almost had their way if it wasn't for the leaked emails coming out, which put more than a damper on it. This doesn't automatically mean if the emails weren't hacked that Obama would have signed a legally binding agreement- but the damage to the bogus consensus lie is not a small thing at all and people are starting to see it.

Politicizing everything under the sun is probably unavoidable - humans are humans. Honest science and open debate is not as unavoidable as science is supposed to be and can be an objective thing. Whether or not it will be debated in an honest way is another story.

This is not an insignificant thing and the technical details of the science itself has very deep and profound implications. This is a complete and total separate "crime against humanity" as the implications of it risk trillions of dollars and billions of lives, specifically, because of this fraud, which is exactly what it is.

The cru data is like a "source code" from which many climate scientists draw their conclusions. It is like designing an anatomical model of a human being by examining a reptile - this is not far from an accurate analogy because just changing human dna one small fraction makes all the difference in the world from being a human or not. Scientists rely on that data to be correct and a lot of data is calibrated based on the cru flawed data. That basically compromises virtually all of the data that is available.

We know the actual chemical science of the debris and dust from the 9/11 incident shows loads of thermite was all over the place. What if it was a government panel of chemists and they cherry picked the spectrum analysis of the minority of dust that didn't have thermite and this was used to build the proof that there was no thermite in the buildings? It would just be another hoodwinking attempt. Thankfully some real scientists with integrity at the risk of their own lives and reputations did the real science and had it published in a very respectable online journal of chemistry showing the dust was loaded with thermite.

What the climate scientists are doing that believe in AWG using flawed data is to build an entire model on a false premise. If that premise is false, then everything based on it is also suspect- like building a skyscraper on a block of putty. Enough of us are confident enough of the ample flaws in electron theory for "electricity" and look at these models we have today...complete jokes because they are based on a model that is flawed at the very core and it has cost many years of missed progress in technologies that are based on sanity.

Look at the medical establishments treatment of cancer regardless of what are known effective natural non-invasive treatments - regardless of known, verified and absolutely proven data. Quacks that kill people- an oncologist told us this about one family member "if the studies at the University of Kansas gynecological-oncology study shows that intravenous C is beneficial, I'll be recommending vitamin c to all my patients." We showed the real data to this "doctor" for an effective treatment for a very specific cancer.

This quack even went to medical school with one or two of the doctors conducting the study- the study results - BENEFICIAL... this doctor knows what the results are and is not recommending it to any of her patients. Actually, the quacks recommend not taking C because it will "interfere" with the chemo.

So, another example of looking the other way because of a convenient lie that supports their lifestyle, their income, their preconceived belief, etc... And these AWG scientists are getting financial rewards at the university level, etc... supporting AWG...this is an undeniable fact...it is just how the funding works- they favor their job over the truth...where are at least 5 AWG believing scientists that have come forward with integrity to say, "we must question our data?"

Anything built on a flawed premise and done knowingly so is an atrocity, especially when the entire human population is a victim and the entire human population does happen to be a victim in this case.

I don't believe that every AWG believer has knowingly done anything wrong in their science. They would trust "authoritative" information as being accurate and because of that, they would have a lot of reason to believe what they believe. Same concept applies to believers in the sun theory or other theories. The basic fundamental principles should always be questioned and I think at Energetic Forum, many of us do a great job at questioning the very foundation of the models.

What is QUACKERY about the AWG believing scientists is that regardless of what spin the damage control puts on the hacked emails, the CRU data is absolutely suspect beyond a shadow of a doubt and has been called into question.

A real scientist with intellectual honesty that believes in AWG, with a belief rooted in much of the data from CRU, would with any integrity whatsoever hold their own people accountable and would call for an examination. If they don't, and remain silent because it is convenient for them to simply say nothing since the advantage is in their court for their particular belief, is QUACKERY and an atrocity.

This, is a crime against humanity and any scientists that believes in AWG that feels a need to ignore every bit of evidence that indicates some pretty nefarious happenings is the same kind of person that sat idle while letting hitler murder millions- different event and topic but same mentality. This is not blowing the concept out of proportion either.

How many awg scientists have come forward to insist that their own data be re-examined? They are more interested in maintaining what they already believe instead of doing science. Every human being has a PERSONAL vested interest in having an objective examination of all the data in a very open discussion- they are entitled to the truth.

Any AWG believing scientist that are not pushing for an examination for their own models are QUACKS.

Any AWG pusher that perpetuates the consensus lie is a quack. It is a lie and this is not even debatable. There is nothing close to a consensus. There are actually more scientists that are petitioning against AWG than scientists that are for it. If there is any consensus, the reality is that it is past the half way mark in favor of a non-AWG model as far as the scientists are concerned.

Look at the heater circuit. How many times did the naysayers post flawed and bogus data, etc... based on pure fraud and ignorance? When anything like this was posted, how many on the skeptical side came forward to keep their own "peers" accountable and call them into question- when they made obvious blunders? They would rather say absolutely nothing as long as the overall post, presentation or data supported their already preconceived belief based on whatever reasoning. This is EXACTLY what the awg pushers are doing. And this is quackery.

I think we agree on more things than not and we're obviously for a healthy environment and the release of free energy technologies, which the powers that be on both sides of the spectrum have actively moved to block for ages. The left and right have always prevented real sustainable solutions. If everything was solved, what would we need them for?

[Aaron]

Lord Monkton knocked unconscious by Danish police

Lord Monckton Knocked Out by Copenhagen Cop - Greg Pollowitz - Planet Gore on National Review Online

Bluegrass Pundit: Global Warming Skeptic Lord Monckton Assaulted In Copenhagen By Danish Police

Danish Police knock Lord Monkton to the ground knocking him unconscious.

[brenie]

Hi Jib, it was'nt all bad. Did you not listen to Hugo Cheves's speech?
I think he had it right when he said, "if he climate problem had been a Bank, the political system would have saved it by now".
Oh, and the banner outside 'it's Capitalism stupid'.

Regards,Bren.

[Aaron]

Hugo Chavez

Just ask Hugo Chavez: ‘Climate change’ is all about subsidizing socialism | The North Star National

[Aaron]

weather manipulation

Let's not forget that some governments have the technology to manipulate
the weather to cause draught, hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanos, etc...
So how much of any weather change is caused by this? We'll probably
never know.

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U.S. Defence Secretary Cohen expresses concern about eco-terrorism using scalar electromagnetic weapons.

"Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations...It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts."



Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn.


Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia, Athens, Apr. 28, 1997.

[patmac]

Aaron

All about that article is 100% true, Hugo Chavez is a dictatorship populist use his Petro Dollars to finance terrorist in Colombia, I know so much about this, I'm living on the border between both countries and I was born on Venezuela and my father is from Colombia... Hugo Chavez is destroying the country and is taking the control on another countries, like Bolivia, Ecuador, Nicaragua etc.

I can not understand exactly who support to Chavez internationally (must be some people very powerfull politic and economically). I think in Conpehagen all is very clear, if you say CO2 is very danger and goes to destroy de planet then David Icke theory PROBLEM - REACTION - SOLUTION is true, you need the solution and the solution is: "Chavez he can save us using his SOCIALISM XXI".

I can talk about the real situation in Venezuela, the country is A TOTAL ANARCHY everyday worst, BANDALISM, GANGTERS and all you can imagine, governement corruption, here the governement defends the gangsters above all if the gangsters are Chavist. Chavez is weakinning the army and he is forming a NATIONAL MILITIA, yes like Hitler brown shirts. FARC terrorist are continually operating in Venezuela is directing all operations about narco traffic, kidnapping and all that bull****. The country's infrastructure is very weak now, this country was advanced and relatively developed in the region, but now this OIL RICH COUNTRY has many many black outs, electricity infrastructure is broke, we have many problems with water service in some locations water service only work one day per week and another locations water only is distributed by the Firemans using theirs trucks.... You can look for info about Venezuela this country is very rich problems like these are mainly by militarism - centralism - corruption....

I hate the socialism, capitalism Ultra-Right, Communism and all that extremist bull****. I think all can be resolved by COLLECTIVE WORK, not making all the people equal... EQUALLY POOR.

I would like that people like yours make public the real situation in Venezuela, this anarchy international system is destroying the world, yours would think all is very great here because we are selling 2 million barrels per day, and the oil prices are very high but that is a complete lie the quality of life on Venezuela is the worst in all the history... We're importing about 40% of food, this Chabeast has distroyed the food production by violating continally the private property and stoling the lands to the farmer families...

I'm afraid about this situation Aaron really I'm think this is very planned there are many people protesting on the OAS office in Caracas using hunger strike and getting many health problems, many days ago a Farmer has cut self a finger only to pressing the OAS because the Governement all powerfull has stolen his Farm, OAS finally help but only in this cases where the people risk his life in another case like free speech, narco, gangster... OAS is relatively a autistic organism but this organism is the same that has supported to Chavez in 2002 year when the people protested on Presidential Palace. OAS for me at least is a NWO organism and is supporting the socialism dictatorships you can look for Honduras crisis, you can see like OAS has defended Zelaya without hear the oposition... Zelaya for example was supporting narcotraffic planes flying low altitude from Venezuela.

Now this corrupt governement is not thinking on socialism to the people level but is searching for socialism to contry level, if USA is richer than Cuba then USA gives his money to Cuba, hahah, this corrupted governements would be this money to make itself more powerfull. Because money is power...

Regards, Carlos.

[Joit]

G. Bush June 1992
George Bush: Address to the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Where i am even not sure, if this Puppets only read from Notes,
or if it is really her Intention.

[Aaron]

global warming

First paragraph in Bush's speech there:

"President Collor, Mr. Secretary-General, heads of delegation, may I first express my admiration to Secretary-General Boutros-Ghali and my gratitude to Secretary General Maurice Strong for his tireless work in bringing this Earth summit together. This is truly an historic gathering."

As Jibbguy points out people are chosen, Maruice Strong is a CHOOSER...
tribute to Bush the DECIDER. lol

This Maurice Strong seems to be attached to virtually every aspect of the
entire global warming swindle.

I saw parts of the post about oil actually being behind the fraudenhagen
scam.

3-5 years ago or so, a friend that is in the know told me specifically that
the next bilderberg meeting would focus on the steps to
institute a carbon tax....NOT carbon credits...but an outright tax.
I'm talking about a meeting that took place a few years ago. I have no
doubt the carbon credit scam is just a stepping stone to an across the
board tax. Just about all of these top dog puppets are and puppeteers
are bilderberg members.

Supposedly, the bilderberg members are pretty divided about quite a few
issues but that could just be misinformation to give people false hope. I
don't recall where I saw reference to that. But there are advantages to
allowing others to think one is weaker than they are and there are
advantages to allowing others to think one is stronger than they are...
just depends on the situation.

I know someone else that about 8 years ago, this person had spent a lot
of time with a lot of the younger generation children of many of the
money elite "illuminati"... all the big names everyone has heard of. I believe
he had helped them with some health issues. Anyway, they supposedly
were open with him and said they were not happy with the way their
older generation family that are still living have been running things and
they want change. According to him, there were quite a few that felt
the same way.

Sounds good to me if true but I'm sure if it is true,
they don't stand a chance of changing the way anything is being run soon
because if they did, the way they apparently think is that they would be
kicked out of the family and shunned like a cult escapee. They would have
to probably wait until older family members die and they move up in the
inheritance to actually start running things themselves.

The rothschilds obviously have had a very sharp focus for HUNDREDS of years and I don't see any easy way that kind of rearing would suddenly
change, easily.

Anyway, back to topic. This is a fun link...you can see live updates
on what people are saying on both sides. Google posts the posts from
twitter with certain keywords "global warming" for this one...
global warming - Google Search

Maybe I can find a pattern in the posts that will let me predict tomorrow's
temperatures. lol

By the way, read this article...
The dog that didn't bark on global warming

The see this data:
the Foresight Institute » Some Historical Perspective

[Joit]

First paragraph in Bush's speech

There been 2 Things too, what did jump in my Eyes, first Maurice Strong,
and second the Phrase 'sustain us', which is now a Organisation.

I think too, M Strong is deep involed into this Business, he comes over from Canada, and moved to China.
China did buy in past a lot of Credits and Values from US, but he seems is just another Puppet, or one from this Group.
Anyhow i think, the Track goes back to USA and Netherlands,
where another Bunch is sitting.
And there are Rumors around, that Rothshilds only married among themselve,
only that they dont lost Money to anyone. You can figure, if there is Incest in it or not. Lol.
And how healthy that is, i think, is proven

But you can say opposite also, there is only a Bunch of selfish Creatures,
where any one does only do his little Part for this big Mess.
But anyhow, its to controlled for that, that this is all accidently.

[Joit]

Lord Monckton supports CFACT
to sign up a Petition against Cap and Trade.

But seems its only for US,
there you see, how much Sheeps are at the other Countrys.
YouTube - All Pain No Gain!

[Joit]

Video about Rasmusson, the Danish Premier,
chairman at COP from the Climagate, that he is a Warmonger.
YouTube - Why is Anders Fogh Rasmussen Dangerous (NATO General Secretary candidate)

[Peter Lindemann]

Millions Protest Global Warming

Hi Folks,

I know this thread has digressed a lot into Politics lately, but here is one protest I couldn't ignore.

Millions Protest Global Warming

This gathering of "Arctic Inhabitants" were photographed protesting recently at the Copenhagen Climate Conference. All major media outlets ignored this protest, but Danish Police were filmed beating many in the peaceful crowd. Thousands were arrested and charged with expressing "an inconvenient opinion". Dozens of protesters actually melted while being processed inside the Police Station. Emergency medical teams, arriving with refrigerated ambulances, told media outlets that the protesters died needlessly in Police custody. Many were saved, however, with rapid injections of liquid Nitrogen. Eventually, all charges were dropped. Later, the Chief of Police was seen mopping the floor, but he denied that anything unusual had happened.

Peter

[Aaron]

ClimateGate Expanding, Including Russian Data and Another Research Center

I recognize a few of those protesters! One of them was standing in my back yard a few days ago!

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from:
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/12/c...search-center/
ClimateGate Expanding, Including Russian Data and Another Research Center

By Bob Ellis on December 18th, 2009
A Finnish version of a figure showing the predicted distribution of temperature change due to global warming from Hadley Centre HadCM3 climate model. (Source: Wikimedia Commons)



The apostles of the religion of anthropogenic global warming desperately want people to believe their flimsy theory about the earth warming due to human activity is based on science, “settled science” they tell us, where there is “consensus” of all scientists with no disagreement in the scientific community.


We already knew that was total bunk, since there are more than 31,000 scientists who are on record stating they don’t buy the theory of anthropogenic global warming. There are several groups of scientists who have gone on record in different areas of the world against this silly theory, and while AGW true believers desperately want us to ignore these scientists, the facts are difficult things to ignore.


Besides, the whole idea–when compared to the power of the sun and historical data of natural, cyclic climate change going back thousands of years–just doesn’t pass the smell test of credibility.


Then came the leaked emails, computer code and other documents from the Climate Research Unit in Englad a few weeks ago, and the lid was finally off their sealed pot of stonewalling propaganda. We got to see first hand their own talk of using “tricks” and “fudge factors” in their climate models to “hide the decline” in recent temperatures. We also found out they had trashed a lot of their raw data and could no longer produce the original information upon which they base their summaries. How convenient.


At first there was silence, as AGW acolytes struggled to come up with a way to explain away their obvious duplicity. Then came the weak protests that “trick” didn’t really mean “trick” and “fudge factor” really didn’t mean “fudging” and so on. And of course there were the protests of, “Well, this is an isolated incident. This doesn’t affect the other AGW data out there.”
We knew that was still more bunk, as other AGW promoting agencies including the UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) were using the CRU’s data. Also, if CRU was playing tricks and fudging data, what reason did we have to believe they were the only AGW apostles who would be so dishonest?


Well now some Russian climate officials have come forward stating that the data they handed over to the Hadley Centre in England has been cherry-picked, leaving out as much as 40% of the cooler temperature readings and choosing the hottest readings to make it appear things were warmer than they actually are (regardless of whether the temperature is human-induced or natural).




Even as socialists work feverishly for an accord to limit the freedom of the people and to transfer large amounts of our property to others (otherwise known as “theft”) in Copenhagen, this new ClimateGate scandal explodes onto the pages of the British newspaper the Daily Express:

But experts at the Moscow-based Institute of Economic Analysis say the British dossier used statistics from weather stations that fit its theory of global warming, while ignoring those that do not.

They accuse the Met Office’s Hadley Centre of relying on just 25 per cent of Russia’s weather stations and over-estimating warming in the country by more than half a degree Celsius.

Last night, leading global warming sceptic Dr Fred Singer, of the Science and Environmental Policy Project, said: “I have long suspected that this selective fiddle took place but have not assembled all the evidence.

“We know, and have published, that between 1975 and 2000 the number of weather stations was reduced from nearly 7,000 to only 3,000 with many of them in the former Soviet Union.

“The effect of this would be to produce an artificial temperature trend which we don’t see in the satellite data. So the warming of the past 30 years is likely to be an illusion.”

See also the video report below on this latest climate scandal.


It is interesting that the land area covered by Russia is huge (about 10% of the land area of the earth), and if these Apostles of Deception are tossing out vast amounts of “inconvenient” data, this throws off temperature calculations for the entire planet.


Investors Business Daily also had this on the scandal:

The IEA unfortunately does not offer English-language versions of its reports on its Web site. However, Andrei Illarionov, IEA founder and editor of the report, is also a senior fellow at the free market Cato Institute and talked to IBD about the report’s conclusion.

“The Hadley Center as well as the CRU … about a week ago, put up on a Web site the data they used for calculating global temperatures,” said Illarionov. “It looks like that, based on this information, the (climate researchers) selected particular (meteorological) stations on the Russian territory and rejected using some other stations. (The report) is an analysis of what stations have been used, what stations have not been used and based on this analysis it looks like the real actual temperature dynamics .. . in Russia, that is the increase in warming, have been artificially increased by 0.64 degrees Celsius.”

According to an analysis of the report in the Russian daily business newspaper Kommersant, the stations cover most of Russia but the Hadley Center used only 25% of the stations in its reports, typically ones closer to large population centers. The data from the unused stations reportedly did not show any substantial warming trends.

Incidentally, the Daily Express piece said that in a recent poll of their readership, 98% believed they were being conned about global warming.
This theory of AGW didn’t pass muster with common sense, solar activity, or historical data even before the CRU and Hadley Center were revealed to be monkeying with data. Now it should be abundantly clear that the bilge being fed to us about evil capitalist activity destroying the planet should be summarily and solidly rejected.

1. Further, it is quite clear that this whole charade is nothing but a vehicle for Marxists to facilitate their attacks on free-market economies and bring about the transfers of wealth and reduction of freedom they have so longed for.

[Aaron]

Feynman quote

"No government has the right to decide on the truth of scientific principles, nor to prescribe in any way the character of the questions investigated." - Feynman