The Great Global Warming Swindle

[BroMikey]

End Game

Living is much harder than dying. I have read the posting here sensational as it is. True people are like pack animals without the true God. I use the phrase TRUE GOD because only THAT God grants the power to rise about the pack dog reality.

Those who have no hope in this world respond with only natural instinct, while those who have ascended above while they live on earth KNOW that they will live again.

You see all of these dramatic communications are all based on the fear of death or the fear of the unknown.

Only a tiny portion of the worlds population will understand these words.

Those that kill to win will be killed.

The test is on. I hope you pass yours.

Mike

[Xenophanes]

Anthropological global warming...er I mean climate change (re-branded) is and always has been about one thing.The establishment of a centralized global Marxist government.Redistribution of wealth from the working class to the parasite class and from there into the pockets of the wealthiest one percent.I have known about this for 20+ years but discussing it,especially lately, is a kin to denying the holocaust on the floor of a synagog during Yom Kippur. It`s nce to see a thread like this one,gives me hope.Here are some quotes to consider:

"No matter if the science of global warming is all phony... climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world." -- Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment

“For the extreme left it [the existence of climate change] provides the opportunity to do what they've always wanted to do, to sort of de-industrialise the western world. You know the collapse of communism was a disaster for the left...and really they embraced environmentalism as their new religion.” – Nick Minchin, Liberal Senator and former Australian Government Minister

"I was on a program yesterday with Art Robinson. He was one of the scientists in the Oregon petition, 17,800 scientists, that said that, yes, we understand that we are going through a warming period, but it's not due to manmade gases. And this is ten years after they came out with their report, and nobody ever talks about that. The recent findings up in Canada, when 60 scientists told the prime minister, Harper, if we had known ten years ago what we know today about science, we would never have asked you to sign on to the Kyoto".

-- Sen. James Inhofe

"But we're responsible for all the carbon dioxide greenhouse effect? Gracious no! Humans can only claim responsibility, if that's the word, for about 3.4% of carbon dioxide emitted to the atmosphere annually, the rest of it is all natural... "

-- Steven Milloy,junkscience.com

"global warming can mean colder, it can mean drier, it can mean wetter."

-Steven Guilbeault,Greenpeace

“According to the University of Illinois’ Arctic Climate Research Center, global sea ice levels now equal those of 1979.”

- George F. Will, columnist of The Washington Post,



“It is deeply pejorative to call someone a ‘climate change denier.’ This is because it is a phrase designedly reminiscent of the idea of ‘Holocaust Denial.’”

- Richard D. North

“Al Gore’s not going to be rounding up Jews and exterminating them. It is the same tactic, however. The goal is different. The goal is globalization… and you must silence all dissenting voices. That’s what Hitler did. That’s what Al Gore, the U.N., and everybody on the global warming bandwagon [are doing].”

- Glenn Beck

"I feel threatened now, not by global warming -- I don't see any -- (but) by the global warming doctrine, which I consider a new dangerous attempt to control and mastermind my life and our lives, in the name of controlling the climate or temperature.They don't care about resources or poverty or pollution."

"They hate us, the humans. They consider us dangerous and sinful creatures who must be controlled by them.

"I used to live in a similar world called communism. And I know it led to the worst environmental damage the world has ever experienced."

-Czech President Vaclav Klaus

“that the actual goal of the climatism is to liquidate democracy, freedom, and prosperity in the world. …It’s the very ability of the one-party system to neutralize the opposition of any kind that is so intriguing for Ms Figueres and thousands of champions of the climate alarmism. It’s what their talk about the “consensus” and the dissatisfaction with the “contrarians” is all about. The goal of these people is to stop democracy, freedom, and prosperity regardless of the fate of Nature, the temperatures, or the CO2 concentrations.”

-Harvard Physicist Dr. Lubos Motl


"The Council on Foreign Relations is "the establishment." Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government ... to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of a one-world dictatorship." -- Former Congressman John Rarick 1971

[Allcanadian]

@Xenophanes

One little problem with your last post...every person has a blatant conflict of interest because for the most part their livelihood is dependent on climate change not being true or the conflicting viewpoints.

For instance most all science in Canada falls under Environment Canada which is a government agency or corporations with a vested interest so again...blatant conflict of interest.

Now for what we do know, 95% of the fish in the ocean are gone, 90+% of all fresh water is polluted, air pollution and respiratory ailments are on the rise, deforestation is increasing, chemical use is rampant, etc.. . What part of we are destroying the planet do you not understand?.

“that the actual goal of the climatism is to liquidate democracy, freedom, and prosperity in the world".

Right, so it's not about the fact we are destroying the planet it's all about peoples democratic freedom to prosper from rape, pillaging and plundering all natural resources. Pretty much everyone has their hand in the cookie jar and a vested interest in keeping everything as it is...business as usual. No offence but it would be effortless to shred their supposed credibility because they don't actually have any, it is comical at best.

Think of it this way, it is not about climate change but the right to generate ungodly amounts of CO2 to transform Energy. Energy generates profit and corporations are mandated to generate a profit by any means so they may survive and prosper. Governments rely on corporate profits and royalties to keep the economy moving so they stay elected which relates to their well being ie. a government not governing is useless. Thus all play their part and are complicit as are scientists who are paid by those with a vested interest. Everyone just wants to hold the status quo so they can profit and buy more useless crap to impress other people as our planet is being destroyed.

Again they are not responsible adults as there is no real responsibility nor accountability in them in regards to our future.


AC

[TheoriaApophasis]

@Xenophanes
Right, so it's not about the fact we are destroying the planet it's all about peoples democratic freedom to prosper from rape, pillaging and plundering all natural resources
AC

BULL COOKIES



As a former Russian translator and living in Russia for 4 years, i can ASSURE YOU 100,000% nothing SCREAMS RAPE AND MURDER of the environment better than Socialism/ Communism.


DOES NOT EXIST a more dirty SHEET-HOLE than a Socialism Gawd-dahmn "paradise".



China is choking to death LITERALLY in its own poluted spew.



Ive seen places in Russia that would make your anal sphincter IMPLODE from amazing horror at what IS , WAS, HAS "gone down"

[Xenophanes]

Just how much of the "Greenhouse Effect" is caused by human activity?
It is about 0.28%, if water vapor is taken into account-- about 5.53%, if not.

"But we're responsible for all the carbon dioxide greenhouse effect? Gracious no! Humans can only claim responsibility, if that's the word, for about 3.4% of carbon dioxide emitted to the atmosphere annually, the rest of it is all natural... "
-- Steven Milloy,junkscience.com

Sacrificing what little self determination we have in our lives on the alter of a false ideology designed to replace red communism is insane!We would be far better served to put an end to corporatism and unleash the suppressed technologies we here on this forum are all too aware exist.Do you want to sacrifice the living standard you enjoy now over a lie conceived by the same corporate interests now ruling the World?Do you suppose paying a carbon (breathing) tax to international bankers will enrich the life of a third world peasant somehow?I agree the planet is in rough shape but the average citizen has no say in how soulless corporate entities run roughshod over the environment,that responsibility lies at the feet of the 1% my friend,and I for one refuse to be punished for an imaginary crime.Yes we need change but the left bring nothing to the table but self serving lies and misguided social engineering as usual.New technology is the solution.Cheap abundant energy will quite literally fix everything.

[Xenophanes]

BULL COOKIES



As a former Russian translator and living in Russia for 4 years, i can ASSURE YOU 100,000% nothing SCREAMS RAPE AND MURDER of the environment better than Socialism/ Communism.


DOES NOT EXIST a more dirty SHEET-HOLE than a Socialism Gawd-dahmn "paradise".



China is choking to death LITERALLY in its own poluted spew.



Ive seen places in Russia that would make your anal sphincter IMPLODE from amazing horror at what IS , WAS, HAS "gone down"

Yeah ain`t that the truth!I have seen Minsk first hand.It`s okay if you don`t mind being irradiated...China is a whole other disaster.Communism sucks.Period.

[Aaron]

chemtrail and climate connection

Surprised this was addressed and broadcast by the UN. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7g9oiyXuR8

Rosalind Peterson with an ag org and it appears to be well received.

[Dog-One]

Chemtrails

Surprised this was addressed and broadcast by the UN. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7g9oiyXuR8

Rosalind Peterson with an ag org and it appears to be well received.

Funny you should mention that Aaron. Wednesday, I stayed up all night to watch the lunar eclipse--it was pretty hyped up on the local news media so I'm sure many people did the same as I. Apparently the folks doing the chemtrailing didn't get the memo because they were spraying like nobody's business. Just plane after plane spewing that garbage and they didn't even try to go around the moon, the main observation point. It was so in-your-face obvious I could hardly believe what I was seeing. If the act of doing this with several thousands of people watching in just my area doesn't raise public awareness, I don't think anything will. I only wish I could have had some good video equipment capable of night operation to record the whole thing. I would have sent footage into the local broadcasters for them to air for the people that missed it.

[Allcanadian]

@Aaron

Surprised this was addressed and broadcast by the UN. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7g9oiyXuR8

Rosalind Peterson with an ag org and it appears to be well received.

She's doing everything right in my opinion, she has expertise, credibility and solid proof that chemtrails are a fact.

It makes all the naysayers look pretty stupid in my opinion but they never were that smart to begin with, lol.

AC

[Michael John Nunnerley]

@Aaron


She's doing everything right in my opinion, she has expertise, credibility and solid proof that chemtrails are a fact.

It makes all the naysayers look pretty stupid in my opinion but they never were that smart to begin with, lol.

AC

100% correct these people are playing with our lives

regards

Mike

[Aaron]

chemtrails

Funny you should mention that Aaron. Wednesday, I stayed up all night to watch the lunar eclipse--it was pretty hyped up on the local news media so I'm sure many people did the same as I. Apparently the folks doing the chemtrailing didn't get the memo because they were spraying like nobody's business. Just plane after plane spewing that garbage and they didn't even try to go around the moon, the main observation point. It was so in-your-face obvious I could hardly believe what I was seeing. If the act of doing this with several thousands of people watching in just my area doesn't raise public awareness, I don't think anything will. I only wish I could have had some good video equipment capable of night operation to record the whole thing. I would have sent footage into the local broadcasters for them to air for the people that missed it.

That's too bad - I wanted to see it myself and spaced it. It's rare around here to spray chemtrails at night but it does happen sometimes. Usually, they start at about 5am or so so by the time the average person wakes up, it's already spread across the sky.

We're right by Fairchild AFB - a tanker base and those tanker kc135's are the prime culprit here. Back and forth back and forth back and forth even after the early morning spray. The big X's they spray I think are for analyzing the wind direction by ground or satellite.

And to see them all start and stop at the same place when they do the parallel lines - people are so ignorant they don't realize the temperature in the sky doesn't turn off and on like a switch.

[Aaron]

calculate contrail max area coverage possibilityy

For a jet of a certain size with a certain engine, that engine will burn x pounds of fuel per time, which at whatever speed will take them x distance.

At a certain altitude and air temperature, there is probably a fairly accurate mathematical formula to show how much water is actually there per 1 mile of distance in the air. With that much water in the air that crystalizes and turns into a real contrail, can't it be shown on paper the maximum area that it can spread out to before it is so thin it is transparent?

Of course real contrails are ice and that melts from infrared mostly I would imagine and that is why they don't last that long, but even if it were to remain ice, what is the largest area it can be spread across before being so thin it is transparent?

What I'm getting at it that within basic turbojet combustion science, basic chemistry and meteorology, can't it be shown on paper that it is completely impossible for a contrail to spread to an area that we see with the chemtrails?

Not that facts can change the minds of the willfully ignorant, but I'm surprised this argument hasn't been demonstrated. I've thought about this point for a long time and I'm sure someone here is qualified to do the numbers.

[Aaron]

facts

It makes all the naysayers look pretty stupid in my opinion but they never were that smart to begin with, lol.

LOL, don't bother them with the facts!

[Peter Lindemann]

Apparently, Plants Absorb More CO2 than Modelled

Hey Folks,

Here is a new article from the BBC, titled Climate Change: Models 'underplay plant CO2 absorption'.

Thought you'd like to know. LOL

BBC News - Climate change: Models 'underplay plant CO2 absorption'

More later,
Peter

[Aaron]

Stopping the Coming Ice Age

The video is relevant to this thread: http://www.energeticforum.com/agricu...ld-weaver.html

Video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-eMtiTUD_g

Hamaker does believe co2 traps heat, but in any case, these are important points relating to the glaciation period.