The Great Global Warming Swindle

[Vortex]

Hi Guys,

I think this article says it all!

1) Arctic ice grew 13.2% in 2008
2) Summer (2008) was 3rd coldest on record in Anchorage, Alaska
3) 2008 coolest year since 1997
4) Snow fell in London in October 2008, first time since 1922
5) "Global Warming is over, and Global Warming Theory has failed."

Global cooling is here

Enjoy

Peter

Peter,
Yes, I would agree, the "Warming" wave has crested and crashed upon the shores of reality.

@All , going off topic and on a tangent...
Reality is only information, via touch, sight, words, etc., at least as
most people alive understand it.

If we believe our Dreams are reality, when sleeping, then it seems
we are easy to be fooled with an information flow coming from nowhere.

When we say: "They are only misinformed"..
We don't mean they dreaming, but isn't it about the same thing?
Information changes your internal (external) reality.

You can be fooled as to what reality is, it's only information.
Where is your information coming from?

Just
Randy

[dmonarch]

Youll never know

These are just some notes i took while listening to the show before it got to the conspiracy stuff. Whether or not its true well we will never know until the day they heard us into trucks. For me personally the way things have turned suggests most definitly the elite are playing control. Also its interesting that it was a document on global warming that showed temperatures going up and yet some people here are talking about the cold as though its evidence. Please dont take that as a shot at anyone. Just observation

I myself dont know what is going. How can i we get fed lies from either side. Someone always has an agenda unfortunatly.

Ok so temperatures have risen and dropped in the past. That makes sense as the sun temperature rises and falls. That however does not mean CO2 is not contributing to the planet warming up. Its the derivative of the graph you need to look at and when you do you see that the rate of temperature increase has increased during the industrial era. Saying that the decrease during the 1940 is evidance that the industrial age is not to blame is not sound either as it may have been the temperature of the sun which decreased. They are focusing on one aspect at there own convenience which is the relationship between temperature and CO2 production not even mentioning the sun in the equation. They themselves say that CO2 is a green house gas. That it only makes up a small percentage of such gases doesnt say anything about its effect.

[dave_cahoon]

Hello People

Less Spots = Less Heat
NASA - Spotless Sun: Blankest Year of the Space Age
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Maunder Minimum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tropical Tree Cuts = Carbon Nut$
Deforestation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Chicago Climate Exchange

Cant BUY our way out of a NATURAL cycle, although it does sound nice
for the traders, not the suckers. Just like any media/market driven con-sept.
NO bailout for Mother Nature!

CO2 a fuel?????? (water shift react CO2 into methane - propane with plasma)
Science Links Japan | A Study on the Ionization of CO2 and Discharge Conditions in a Magnetically Supported Glow-discharge
OR
AlgaeOil-BioMass
OR.... wind&$olar lol........

Add device to engine that uses waist calories to gasify kerosene(clean)
into light gasses and burn them... (again water shift reaction)

Dave

[Vortex]

Again I must ask that the source the information be examined.
Follow the money..
Who paid for the information to be "gathered"?

If this is so important a question, why is there so much conflicting information?
It's one or the other,
either it is impossible to know the answer, so both sides are lying
by saying they know the answer
or the answer is known and only one side of the story is a lie.
Either way, you are being told disinformation by at least one side.
Why would they lie, follow the money..

There's a saying: "fool some of the people some of the time".
Well it's just as good to baffle and confuse those you can't fool
into believing. It's called Divide and Conquer. Same old game.
I once believed, then I became confuse and baffled and
now I believe again, but not that man is the cause. Man is the
cause for lots of things, but not this.

Medieval Warm Period lasting around 300 years and the
Little Ice Age lasting around 400 years with around 100 years
between the two and both of those happened 1900.
The hottest period in human history is the Holocene Maximum
lasting about 2500 years.
There's a saying: "History repeats itself."
In this case it's earth history repeats itself.
Source for image links above: link

[ashtweth]

Thx for all the great links guys have added them to the Panacea page you all created.

[Peter Lindemann]

New Link

Hi Guys,

For some reason, the Brightcove link to the film The Great Global Warming Swindle has been removed. I found another site that has the film and corrected the link in my first post.

For your convenience, here it is again.

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Truveo Video Search

Sorry for the confusion. The Brightcove site simply said it was removing ALL of their download films to focus on their core activity. We wish them well and thank them for their service in the past.

Let's keep moving forward.

Peter

[dmonarch]

Film Location

You can watch it on you tube as well. It is divided up into eight parts

[bugler]

youtube is actually one of the worst options to watch videos.

I always make a search in Google Video. It searches in many websites holding videos. In this case google found the complete video here:
Garage TV - video filmpjes - The Great Global Warming Swindle - Documentary Film - kyoto,swindel,global,warming,co2,greenhouse,broeik aseffect,verkiezingen,klimaat,opwarming

[dmonarch]

Sure we are small

Shore we are small however our size has very little to do with it. If i take vinegar and put a drop on your hand then put hydrochloric acid on the other I have caused a larger effect where the hydrochloric acid is and at no time did my size change.
In conspiracy documentaries they talk about how fear is used against us and it is. This same tactik is used in the global warming documentary. They might just be playing another hand using the fear of conspiracy to create fear. All you need to do is look at the content of the documentary and the lack of facts and see that it is about as useless as the nightly news. Even though its a topic for interlectuals in general there was a huge lack of interlect involved in it. Just too onesided for my liking, focusing those aspects which met there equaiton.

And if that is true then its just another bit of evidence to show man has nothing to do with global warming. He isn't he cause so its not somethnig he can change. the earth and its atmosphere are about as thin as paint on a golf ball ratio wise and us humans are at the bottom small fraction of percent of that thin layer how we colud have any effect on the temp of the globe is beyond any rational likelihood. its more likely that the hair on dogs tail can wag the dog. I think people forget how small we are in relation to the earth, the modern ability to transmit images from cameras all over the place and drive cars across country makes us think its a much smaller world than it is, just try to walk to work sometime, or across the country. Vast Vast areas of this earth are deserted with no humans there.

[professor]

Where is the Logic?

If we have not stopped our pollution but are adding to it ,why then do we NOT see an increase of temperatures?
On the contrary it is getting colder!
Am I missing something?
Happy new Year all
professor

[dmonarch]

Missing Something

Yeah you are missing something, we're all missing something and that is the rest of the facts. All i do is point out whats missing in people hypoothesis. For the documentary allot of data was missing and there was a tendency to be one sided. For everyone else including myself what is missing is the rest of the story but the thing is i cant point out the parts of the rest of the story as they are not known by me. No matter what side you take you still must get the feeling of only having part of the data. would

If we have not stopped our pollution but are adding to it ,why then do we NOT see an increase of temperatures?
On the contrary it is getting colder!
Am I missing something?
Happy new Year all
professor

[anut]

IMHO, what the video presents is just what the American media are yelling about. What they are trying to say is that the climate abnormality is normal. It is probably just another corporate propaganda. Nothing new!

If my understanding is correct, there is a correlation between the climate and the solar activities. The correlation, which has been proven with evidence, is due to the fact that some of the solar radiations can penetrate into the earth core to a limited extent. However, this correlation is getting stronger and stronger as a result of ozone loss in the ozone layer, causing the so-called extreme climate change. Perhaps, climate change may be normal. But I don't think the ozone hole and the thinned ozone layer are normal.

According to NASA and those with good track records, the green house effect on earth (so-called global warming) may speed up ozone loss and slow the recovery of the ozone layer. The ozone layer acts as a blanket that filters the harmful radiations from the sun and stabilizes the temperatures all over the world. The temperature on moon fluctuates widely throughout a year, simply because of the absence of this ozone layer. If the comments by NASA and those with good track records are worth listening, it makes sense to believe that global warming contributes extreme climate change.

Regarding the solar activities, Tesla has highlighted the link between solar activities and human activities in his article entitled "How Cosmic Forces Shape Our Destinies. Now, all the propaganda said human activities are not involved. I am not sure whether we should follow the media spin and deny Tesla's science.

[chemelec]

If we have not stopped our pollution but are adding to it ,why then do we NOT see an increase of temperatures?
On the contrary it is getting colder!
Am I missing something?
Happy new Year all
professor

Cold Weather Depends on Where you Live.

Global Means GLOBAL.
"Average World Temperatures".

And there are Many places now in unusual hot weather.

But Cold or Hot, Snow or Rain, Wet or Dry, "There is a Real Global Problem in our world".

[CitizenDC]

There is another thing that I have looked into that could be causing all of these changes, for it is not just our planet that is heating up it seems to be every planet in the solar system. There seems to be some evidence of a tenth planet in our solar system called Nibiru Nibiru / Planet X photos taken January 2008 Video

This planet is said to come around every 3,600 years, and by the time it returns it is all but forgoten for 3,600 years is a long time to tell a story. May 9th or 19th it should be visiable in the southern sky.

I am not a firm beliver in this, but it does answer a lot of what is happening in our solar system right now. Like I said all the planets are being affected, not just earth. If this planet does exist this time around it will not be forgotten it will be recorded in high Def .

I for one will be looking in our southern skies on those dates to see if it does exist.

h2opower.

I looked into PlanetX a few years ago and found very compelling evidence which suggests that it does exist.
Many in the forums back in the day said it was destroyed, but I kept finding evidence that it could possibly be real.
This planet is from what I've read the size of Jupiter, and a red dwarf which is currently observable via the infrared spectrum. It appears people have been able to snap pictures of a second sun on sunrise and sunsets. The planet appears to be behind the sun at this point of time.

If this planet does exist, Global Warming will take a back seat as its passing has the potential to cause an imbalance in our solar system and for our planet.



Orbiting this dwarf sun (planet x) is something like 3 or 4 planets one of which is said to be similar to an earth type environment.
The first time I was exposed to this idea was when reading about Sumer and the many tablets discovered and these tablets translations. Sumer I believe was ancient Iraq as we know it.
These tablets held a recount or archive of what happened during this civilizations time period.
To not go further off topic, they spoke of a giant planet represented by a symbol of X often seen in the sky of tablets depicting Sumerian life.

At the time this all fascinated me especially because Edgar Cayce, a very well known psychic, firmly predicted more planets that what our Astronomers had discovered.
I can recommend to anyone interested into one possibe Earth's and Mankind's history to read the Sumerian tablet texts. You will find many correlations between this and the Bible's Genesis chapter.
Also, keep in mind the Sumer texts predate the bible by a couple thousand of years.




I continued research into this and came upon this YouTube users video:
Youtube.com/user/NibiruTheTruth
Where by This user showed you approximately where Nibiru is estimated to be in Google Sky, Microsoft WorldWide Telescope and another internet astronomy website, and in all three the position has been blanked out with a square/rectangle.
Nothing is there. I remember seeing similar blank blocks in Google Earth around the time of 14 October this year.
Sadly, Youtube user NibiruTheTruth's account was taken down, fortunately many people got to see's he's video and he's very good arguments.

If you browse to Google Sky and in the browse search box type in 'virgo' and click search.
Then scroll one page down in space, and one page left in space. Click the infrared button and wait a moment while the filter loads. Google is not hiding the object completely when you view this patch of space in infrared.



You will see the following and can confirm this in other online astronomy programs like Microsoft World Wide Telescope. They are all covering this object up.

Finally lets look at the north pole. Have any of you found a satellite photo displaying what the North Pole currently looks like? Google earth cloaks and washes the north pole in this cloudy cover along with every other image I can find, as does Microsoft Virtual Earth.

Now ask yourself why is it being hidden? Why not show us satellite pictures of the Ice Cap's so we can see for ourselves what affects we are having? mmm

To end off. I hope some of you will do your own research into the possibility of a Planet X existing and its affect on our Planet.

cheers

[dave_cahoon]

Researching it (p-X) isn't very reveling at this late date.
Can you share your beliefs with us?