About JB 10kW generator

[bugler]

Hi,

I read yesterday in panaceauniversity the pdf about John Bedinis work.

The file says that John has developed a machine that creates 10kw of electricity but that he can-t sell it to anyone.

If he cannot sell this why not publish the details so people can make a replication and change the world?

I know it would be a sacrifice on his part but he won-t be able to sell it anyway and he can make an incredible change.

Same case as Mr. Dingle with his hydrogen car. He cannot sell the car but he will no explain how he does it and the knowledge will die with him.

A complete waste.

[john_g]

Bugler

I had the same thought as you - you beat me to posting the question. Maybe this thread could develop into how the machine may have worked?

[dankie]

because obviously if he did that he would get killed and so would his family.

You will basically have to pay your whole life unless your figure something out yourself ... Even if this ever comes out they will centralize a big eco-friendly plant and you will still pay for it !

You are a slave until you can change something about it . Most OU bloggers dont have the knowledge or tools to accomplish such a task .

[bugler]

I don't think he would be killed by revealing it.
It wouldn't make any sense.

He has to reveal it and help the world.
His knowledge won't make any good when he dies.

[Matthew Jones]

I don't think they are likely to kill anyone. Not these days. You can destroy someone so many other ways without killing them.
All you have to do is associate them with child porn or terrorist activity and you can end there abilty to make difference. The overall general public does not believe that any of this is possible anyway then you get tagged with one of the above and your done.
To avoid this from happening you would essentially have to go into a communication blackout. No computer no phone no abilty to publish. So then they have defeated you without ever doing anything.
I am sure that if such device can be used to power the grid then it will have its time. First alot of people have to change their mindset for this kind of power. They first have to know and accept it. Then they have to demand it.
Then it can be delivered.

The better thing to do in this case is to have small benchtop models that display the theory CLEARLY as proof of concept. Then use those models to change minds.
So instead jumping up to the big guns YOU/WE need to spend more time and effort putting media together and proof of concept for the public.

*Write letter to official and influential people.
*Demand research from academia.
*put informational litrature together for general consumption.
*Confront people who doubt or disbelieve, with SOLID proof.

But you have do all that on a mass scale without putting ourself at risk of being silenced by a false reputation or slander.

Now put yourself in his shoes and ask "What would I do?"

Cheers
Matt

[Guest]

Remember, the government or 'special interests' don't want to kill 'you' because of what you know, but because what you could do with it. If the damage is already done there would be no reason to eliminate you because its too late for them.

If you could release such information in an unexpectedly short timeframe, on a grand scale then its simply game over for them.

Personally if I held information of that magnitude, I would release it knowing that it would be well worth the sacrifice.

[DavidE]

Now put yourself in his shoes and ask "What would I do?"

I would offer a simple proof of concept schematic, that even a little girl could build...

[Inquorate]

they

'they' certainly would could and have bumped an ou inventor off the planet. That's a simple truth.

[rmay635703]

I have thought about this for a while and I believe strongly that the key is to get as many people as possible taught at least how to replicate it. Understanding the tech is great but a vast majority are dumbed down by food, media, environment, etc. Making it in my oppinion important to train a select few the whole story and train everyone else as it were the meat and potatoes of how to replicate it.

There are still relatively "under the radar" methods of transfering information. The key would be to get unrelated individuals to learn the tech all over the world and spread the information in secret amoungst friends family etc.

If enough people would learn at a minimum the how do I build "X" (x being a usefull identically replicatable device of universal usefullness in all areas)
and then teach others you would get so great a cry because there are limits to the controls in our society. Much like the MP3 fiasco large interests have a great deal of trouble stopping something once it becomes accepted common knowledge. Not to say they can't put it down but once the cat is out of the bag everyone will know why when they step in, there will be no more pretenses or greater good reasoning.

People do not realize their power, power in numbers always exceeds the interests of a few.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, of course I have to chime in on a post like this. Again no disrespect to any one and any ideas expressed however it seems yet again were looking away from the goal and being distracted, the power these forces use that help prevent these technologies and of course mixed with engineered ignorance on the peoples part comes from having control of the monetary currency. The federal reserve is not federal and that should tell you a lot right there. And so how does one gain such control over currency, well obviously our so called government has conceded its power over to these forces or are in collusion with such. so again lets try to see these things, like suppression of energy tech. to medical alternatives to anything that separates one from a centralized control structure, for what they are. These are all effects of truly corrupted societal systems that derive its power from the control of the fiat ( ink paper ) monetary system it has constructed. Remove that tool from there arsenal and they have nothing, so now you see what needs to be done since we already know its not a lack of technology problem.

peace, love , light

[ashtweth]

Soon as you build consumer awareness and demand you cannot hide it from the public. Thats why the first OU demos the NON profit org gets our hands on will have an independent validation, and be in the public eye. Once the public know OU is real then the government/corps wont be able to suppress it.

Consumer awareness and demand is the key through particular validation.
We also have over 600 subscribes policing and watching our engineers and progress.
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We do need to publicly police it at this stage. I think john's hands are tied, but once we get one device over the line and let the cat out of the bag, others may come forward. Thats why open source FE is critical .

Ash

[bugler]

Can someone get in touch with John and tell him to give the world the details of his 10kw generator?????

It would make change in history.

[Aaron]

Jim Watson replicates Bedini

Are you sure about this 10kw generator?

You don't mean the one Jim Watson made?

"Jim Watson successfully replicated Bedini's device (with direct advice from Bedini). Watson made improvements and modifications, and eventually was able to build one and adjust it as he wished. He demonstrated an 8 kW device at the first International Tesla conference in Colorado Springs. "

This is what it looked like:


The one on the bottom is the big one. To the left hanging over the motor, you can see battery jumper cables. That gives you a clue to the size of this.

[bugler]

Please go to http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Joh...Technology.pdf
page 11 to see if I understood it correctly.

Thanks.

[Aaron]

Bedini big machine

Hi Bugler,

That machine next to him in that pic is an SSG basically. Big coils, many of them and two LARGE battery banks that flip flop back and forth. Those battery banks are 200ah 2v (from cell phone towers) for 24 volts on each side...so that is a lot of them and they are expensive. He got a good deal on them but still...several thousand just for the batts. With those battery banks, he can light up a whole wall of 100w incandescent bulbs without the batteries hardly noticing! lol

Anyway, John has given out everything necessary for this system. It comes down to tuning and everything else that everyone is working on. If you build a smaller SSG, you have then built the same thing in concept...just smaller.

It is very expensive just to pay for the wire alone on a big version like that. The plastic for the frame? That is more by itself than most people's completed projects. So it takes a lot of money to build them on this scale.

Everytime I've been to John's over the last 9 years or so, I have always seen progress and I remember when that machine was being built. Not many people can put thousands of dollars into one machine like that and finances are really the hold up with most people building this thing. It doesn't really have anything to do with keeping secrets, etc...

Also, it is only one of many ways that it can be done. To do that one, all the info is online. To do solid state, much of that is online too.

So basically, he already has given it to the world. Only he can make money commercially on it but everyone is free to build the circuits for personal use from the patents and anything else he put in the public domain.