Resonance Effects For Everyone To Share

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

I just uploaded a new video and would like everyone who can check to see if my way of calculating the power is correct.

Please post your comments

Link to video: YouTube - RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE test 12

Thanks for your time.

Luc

[Jetijs]

Luc, great video as always
If you have some wire left, maybe you can wind additional coils and see how far you can go with this parallel/series config.

[Hoppy]

Hi everyone,

I just uploaded a new video and would like everyone who can check to see if my way of calculating the power is correct.

Please post your comments

Link to video: YouTube - RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE test 12

Thanks for your time.

Luc

Luc

Should your output power calculation use 30 ohms as the resistance as you have the three networks in series?

Hoppy

[cody]

Luc,
Sorry, i cant help you with your calculations, but i do have a suggestion that might make them more accurate. Those resistors you are using look like they are wire wound resistors. If you take a hammer and bust them open you will find that they are basically just a coil of thin wire inside, so while yes it is a resistor, its also an inductor. Inductors of course have a frequency dependent impedance, and you are of course putting a frequency through it, so i think you might be changing its value. Perhaps a carbon film resistor would be more accurate. Im not 100% positive on this so maybe someone with more EE knowledge would care to comment on this.

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

thanks for your comments.

I was not happy with the way I did the calculations and the setup in video test 12 so I deleted it and replaced it with this new video.

Please give me your input on this.

Link to replacement video: YouTube - RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE test 12

Luc

[Jetijs]

Luc, I searched around the web for a while and found some transformer efficiency test procedures, they all use the same formulas as you to calculate the output power, but they don't use a cap on the output, just a resistor on the secondary and AC voltage reading on across the resistor to calculate the output power. Have you tried that? Can your voltmeter measure something on the AC voltage scale at those frequencies? Or just use your scope to measure the voltage on the output resistor.
Will search around more.

[gotoluc]

Luc, I searched around the web for a while and found some transformer efficiency test procedures, they all use the same formulas as you to calculate the output power, but they don't use a cap on the output, just a resistor on the secondary and AC voltage reading on across the resistor to calculate the output power. Have you tried that? Can your voltmeter measure something on the AC voltage scale at those frequencies? Or just use your scope to measure the voltage on the output resistor.
Will search around more.

Hi Jetijs,

thanks for looking into this

Tomorrow I'm going to pickup the 6 batteries and magnet wire to do the the next test, closing the loop.

I'm done with measurements to satisfy others. I'll just work on the setup to close the loop from now.

Stay tuned

Luc

[Hoppy]

Luc, I searched around the web for a while and found some transformer efficiency test procedures, they all use the same formulas as you to calculate the output power, but they don't use a cap on the output, just a resistor on the secondary and AC voltage reading on across the resistor to calculate the output power. Have you tried that? Can your voltmeter measure something on the AC voltage scale at those frequencies? Or just use your scope to measure the voltage on the output resistor.
Will search around more.

I agree with Jetijs, use the scope to measure across the individual output resistors, not a meter. Take out all the caps to do this and then do the calculations based on scope readings for both input and output. This will be like comparing 'apples with apples'.

Hoppy

[brusers]

Related videos

Hello Luc, and everyone else helping out of course.

First off, great work, I've been trying to follow since the start, and I've loved it.
Here is a video I wanted to throw up, I have not seen it posted yet, and I'm a bit surprised to be honest. Hopefully it is not already posted and I somehow read over it..

Tesla transverse and longitudinal electric waves

Tesla transverse and longitudinal electric waves

Resonating similar setups and making a lot of tests and measurements.
There is another accompanying video there for the transmission which is also really good.

I would assume most people have already seen these?
I thought they were appropriate for the topic.

Wish I could help with the math on the output there, but we have not got that far in our classes. We are still going over the traditional view of what basic electricity is.

Happy experimenting!

Marcel

[Jetijs]

Luc, I talked to some elestronic guys and they say that this is the way to measure, I mean you have to measure the voltage with the scope across the output resistor and without any caps. But I agree also with the looping thing. If you can loop the output to the input and everything will work as we want, then this is even better. Can you tell me how exactly you will do this?

[Jetijs]

Luc, here is what I have.
I did an experiment just like yours with the signal generator only. I used a secondary coil from my Tesla coil as the primary that is connected to the signal generator via a variable 1.5nF cap. This coil is wound around a 40mm diameter plastic tube and has about 1000 turns of 0.5mm wire. Then I wrapped six turns of 1.3mm wire on the HV end of the coil as the pickup coil. I used a 5 Ohm resistor as the load on the pickup coil output (no caps). I used the same value resistor in series with the signal generator output. Then I hooked up one probe of my USB scope across the resistor on the pickup coil and other probe across the resistor that is in series with the signal generator. I set both probes to 1x and the settings on both channels to same values. Then I started to tune the frequency. When I found the frequency, some high voltage appeared in the primary coil (the one with the 1000 turns) and I got a little shock if I touched the signal generator leads, also occasionally there was some quiet arcing sound from the variable capacitor plates. So here is what my scope shows:



Channel1 (green one) is connected to the pickup coil resistor. Channel2 (yellow one) is connected to the signal generator resistor. As I said, both resistors are the same value, nevertheless I got more voltage across the pickup coil resistor than on the resistor on the input side
Here is the hookup diagram:



I don't know if this ts the correct way to measure it, but this seems to be some great news
Tell me what you think!

[gotoluc]

Hi Jetijs,

this all sounds and looks good to me

As long as you can change or vary both frequency and capacitance and make the input the smallest and output the largest you are on the right track.

On your USB Scope. Click the View tab and select complete tools. You will now have the data box which will help you much. On the right you will have all the possible measurements to display in the measure box which you can delete all and make the selection of what you want for each probe. I usually select Frequency, P to P and RMS for probe 1 and RMS and P to P for probe 2

You're doing well keep playing with all the air coils you have and find the differences each on do.

Thanks for sharing.

Luc

[Jetijs]

Thanks Luc
I know about the measurement box, but its just that it does not allow me to get the RMS settings on both probes on the same time. I don't know why. Maybe it's the computer, because on my home computer everything works fine. But one thing is clear, if I measure both RMS voltages separately, the one on the pickup coil resistor is greater than the one on the input resistor.

[Hoppy]

Thanks Luc
I know about the measurement box, but its just that it does not allow me to get the RMS settings on both probes on the same time. I don't know why. Maybe it's the computer, because on my home computer everything works fine. But one thing is clear, if I measure both RMS voltages separately, the one on the pickup coil resistor is greater than the one on the input resistor.

Hi Jetijs & all

The output RMS voltages can be higher than input depending on tuning. See this link which is a vey good resonance simulator posted on another thread:-
RCL a.c. series circuit

This simulation should clear up a lot of the mysticism that seems to have developed around resonance on this forum.

Hoppy

[Joit]

Hi Hoppy,
I hope too, that the resonance about the resonance dont go out of control.
I agree too, that this should not be mystified like tap into a big Dark Mystery with Scalarwaves and Dark mysterious Energy.
Maybe some just have a lack of understanding from Resonanceeffects and overrate simple Effects and some are some hyper.

But my Opinion, better keep the things simple, and see what you get,
and dont spend to much Time with thinking about where and why, or you may start dreaming, and see Things, what are not there.

But i think, Resonance is a good Way, to get better Results at some things,
as allways to work only with Pressure, where you 'Push' something out.
Your Calculator looks realy nice, but Luc and Jetis use 2 and more Coils.
I think, a resonant Circuits with Coils cause other Results, as Circuits with Caps and Resistors do.
So, for my Part, i stay positiv