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  • A bit of success

    I finally got a bit of time tonight to play around with my new coils. Here is a picture of my setup. The primary is on the right, long thin one wire tesla type coil with ends connected to nothing, with a pickup coil on the left that is tuned the same as the primary. All the black tape was to just keep the wire in order, it started to get messy fast without it.



    Here is a shot showing the input light on the right fully extinguished and the LED which is connected to the pickup coil lit up.



    Here is a shot of the primary coil up close with the taps in it. The pickup is the same exact thing.



    As of now I can not get the LED any brighter. But of course I only put in a few hours tonight. I had the main frequency selector potentiometer on my generator go out, and had to fix it..
    I believe my primary and pickup are going to need more wire, or a different wind.. I have a few ideas.
    This is really cool to study. Moving the pickup coil around changes it, you can tell where the nodes are along the long coil. At least I think I was seeing it.. lol.. I have a bit of a cold, maybe I was imagining things.
    Anyhoo, I'm going to try and keep hammering on this. But as luck would have it, the nice instructors at school loaded us down with school work for Easter break, so I won't be getting the lab time that I wanted.
    Hopefully I'll have more to report soon.

    Marcel

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    • Originally posted by brusers View Post
      I finally got a bit of time tonight to play around with my new coils. Here is a picture of my setup. The primary is on the right, long thin one wire tesla type coil with ends connected to nothing, with a pickup coil on the left that is tuned the same as the primary. All the black tape was to just keep the wire in order, it started to get messy fast without it.



      Here is a shot showing the input light on the right fully extinguished and the LED which is connected to the pickup coil lit up.



      Here is a shot of the primary coil up close with the taps in it. The pickup is the same exact thing.



      As of now I can not get the LED any brighter. But of course I only put in a few hours tonight. I had the main frequency selector potentiometer on my generator go out, and had to fix it..
      I believe my primary and pickup are going to need more wire, or a different wind.. I have a few ideas.
      This is really cool to study. Moving the pickup coil around changes it, you can tell where the nodes are along the long coil. At least I think I was seeing it.. lol.. I have a bit of a cold, maybe I was imagining things.
      Anyhoo, I'm going to try and keep hammering on this. But as luck would have it, the nice instructors at school loaded us down with school work for Easter break, so I won't be getting the lab time that I wanted.
      Hopefully I'll have more to report soon.

      Marcel
      Excellent work Marcel

      I have not built this yet! so I can't help you but from the looks you are doing just fine.

      Keep us posted and thanks for taking the time to share.

      Luc

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      • Hi everyone,

        below is a new video I just made which is a test I would like to share. It is not quite on topic but I think it could be worked into Resonance.

        What I am finding is if a certain size of Neo Magnet is introduced in a certain size opening of a Air Core Coil and is Pulsed with Sine Wave or Square Wave the Magnet starts to Oscillates at a certain Frequency, nothing new right!... what is new to me is it started to reduces the Amp draw of the Coil and at a certain frequency I was able to reduce the input power by about 350% or from 79 milli amps to 23 mili amps.

        I find this to be an interesting effect!... we also need to keep in mind that I'm using a off the shelve coil core opening and magnet I had. I am quite sure the effect can get much more efficient once we study it better and find the best configurations.

        Video Link: YouTube - Vibrating Magnet Coil test 1

        Some of you maybe thinking what would happen if a load is attached .... would it still show a reduction of current ... and the answer is yes! I did try it with a load and it definitely shows current reduction as the frequency rises. The load was a tinny 12vdc car dash bulb and the brightness of the bulb goes up as the frequency rises and the amp draw goes down to a point where the magnet can no longer hold in the core opening on its own and falls out if the frequency gets too high.

        Please tell me what you think of this effect.


        Luc

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        • Great video Luc
          How did you measure the amp draw? Is that an AC amp meter?
          It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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          • Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
            Great video Luc
            How did you measure the amp draw? Is that an AC amp meter?
            Hi Jetijs,

            yes! the meter is a hi quality AC amp meter (True RMS up to 100Khz)

            Thanks for your post.

            Luc

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            • @Gotoluc,
              i think this is an interesting effect (sort of like a current regulator that even does work).
              A long time ago this youtube user has stumbled across this too and it instantly made me feel like this is worth experimenting further with:

              YouTube - Bedini EMF Test Free Energy
              (and it even increased his light output A LOT !!!)
              but he did not investigate it further, so i would appreciate it, if you would experiment more with it.
              Keep it up!
              Xenomorph

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              • Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
                @Gotoluc,
                i think this is an interesting effect (sort of like a current regulator that even does work).
                A long time ago this youtube user has stumbled across this too and it instantly made me feel like this is worth experimenting further with:

                YouTube - Bedini EMF Test Free Energy
                (and it even increased his light output A LOT !!!)
                but he did not investigate it further, so i would appreciate it, if you would experiment more with it.
                Keep it up!
                Xenomorph
                Excellent Xenomorph Glad you brought that video up. I also saw it when it first came out and asked Stefan of Overunity Forum to look into it since he speaks German and you can see Stefan's post at the beginning but the YouTuber never replied. Again recently I asked Stephan to check and you can see again no reply.

                Thanks for sharing.

                Luc

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                • Very interesting as usual

                  Bonjour Luc,

                  As usual you are showing something very strange but very surprising

                  I thought about a few questions
                  - Do you think it's because of the movement of the magnet creating supporting current while oscillating in the coil ?
                  - Do you think the magnet will demagnetise after a while ?
                  - Do you think we can collect collapsing fields like in standard pulsed coils ?

                  Of course that questions are to early and I'm sure you have already the answers
                  So let's go step by step, you bringing us further. I'm very interested by a video with the load(s) on !!

                  Hope you are doing well and the spring will be full of new discoveries from you. Keep on the great work Luc !
                  MDG

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                  • Originally posted by stephenafreter View Post
                    Bonjour Luc,

                    As usual you are showing something very strange but very surprising

                    I thought about a few questions
                    - Do you think it's because of the movement of the magnet creating supporting current while oscillating in the coil ?
                    - Do you think the magnet will demagnetise after a while ?
                    - Do you think we can collect collapsing fields like in standard pulsed coils ?

                    Of course that questions are to early and I'm sure you have already the answers
                    So let's go step by step, you bringing us further. I'm very interested by a video with the load(s) on !!

                    Hope you are doing well and the spring will be full of new discoveries from you. Keep on the great work Luc !
                    MDG
                    Bonjour stephenafreter,

                    thank you for your continuous support and encouragement

                    Your question are all very good ones

                    I am puzzled as to what is causing the efficiency boost. looking at the Scope I see the square wave input grow and when the magnet drops out of the coil it returns to normal ... this doesn't tell me much so more research of this will be needed.

                    Somehow I don't think this would demagnetize the magnet as it is not working against anything!... the magnet is free floating with the coils activity but only long term testing will determine this also.

                    From what I know we can collect a collapsing field when using DC or chopped DC in a coil when the switch is off since the feed polarity is always going the same way. However I have only tested this effect with true AC which is really a polarity reversal at each pulse so I'm not sure how it could be collected since the reverse pulse is instantaneous when using my signal generator because of the fixed 50% duty cycle. Maybe with shorter duty cycles and a fast flipping recovery rectifying circuit it could be collected ... but that may take away what is needed for the effect to work. Again many things to test to answer this one.

                    One of the first thing I would like to do now is buy is one or two full spools of mag wire to wind a double wire coil that would be long enough to resonate at the 50 Hertz range to see what effects Resonance has on the magnet as I think this could be the added bonus we need to extract extra energy. Resonance on its own is very efficient and if we could use it in combination with the flux of a Permanent Magnet then we may find some extra energy

                    I would like to thank you once again for helping me at the right time with your most generous financial support.

                    May God bless you and your loved ones for helping one of His devotees by showering His Grace upon you

                    Stay tuned for more

                    Luc
                    Last edited by gotoluc; 04-11-2009, 04:30 AM.

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                    • Hey Luc,

                      Thanks for your thanks man, best blessings for you also

                      Yes everybody just try to do his best, after that the results and improvment of our lives belong to the one in charge of all that curiously beautiful universe ...

                      By the way I didn't realized it was AC

                      Of course with AC not much collapsing field to collect as we get with pulsed DC. I mean it's quite different in concept.
                      So the mystery is even bigger for me, because you use AC and get this strange effect.

                      Could we use this in parallel of our AC appliances (light, fan, fridge, ...) to reduce their consumption

                      Much interesting and valuable stuff again Luc !
                      Keep up the great work mon ami,
                      MDG

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                      • Originally posted by gotoluc View Post
                        Hi everyone,

                        below is a new video I just made which is a test I would like to share. It is not quite on topic but I think it could be worked into Resonance.

                        What I am finding is if a certain size of Neo Magnet is introduced in a certain size opening of a Air Core Coil and is Pulsed with Sine Wave or Square Wave the Magnet starts to Oscillates at a certain Frequency, nothing new right!... what is new to me is it started to reduces the Amp draw of the Coil and at a certain frequency I was able to reduce the input power by about 350% or from 79 milli amps to 23 mili amps.

                        I find this to be an interesting effect!... we also need to keep in mind that I'm using a off the shelve coil core opening and magnet I had. I am quite sure the effect can get much more efficient once we study it better and find the best configurations.

                        Video Link: YouTube - Vibrating Magnet Coil test 1

                        Some of you maybe thinking what would happen if a load is attached .... would it still show a reduction of current ... and the answer is yes! I did try it with a load and it definitely shows current reduction as the frequency rises. The load was a tinny 12vdc car dash bulb and the brightness of the bulb goes up as the frequency rises and the amp draw goes down to a point where the magnet can no longer hold in the core opening on its own and falls out if the frequency gets too high.

                        Please tell me what you think of this effect.


                        Luc
                        Luc have you thought of turning that sound it makes back into electricity. I'm no expert on this but one could use microphones or some other piezo electric vibrating means to extract some electricity out of it.

                        The good part I would think is that the output frequency is directly usable without any conversion as the sound oscillates at the same frequency as the current input.

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                        • @Gotoluc:
                          I speak german too, i could ask the youtube user too. I will actually just point him to this thread and leave it to him to join in.

                          @Broli,
                          i personally think that`s a brilliant idea ! Why leave the (sometimes annoying ) sound unused ?

                          Piezos have been used in the Magnetic Resonance Amplifier with great effect.
                          They do have quite high resonance frequencies though in the kHz range and luc has found the sweet spot way below 1kHz.

                          Theoretically though, if you could find a piezo that has its resonance frequency at exactly THAT sweetspot (or small multiples of it), you would get quite something out of that i believe.

                          Maybe if there was not so fragile,easily breakable piezos, you could use that inside the core and have the kinetic energy of the magnet pushing against the material be converted to electricity maybe too.

                          That would be awesome to tap different kind of energies here (sound,pressure) and in the same time use the movevement of the magnet to induce electricty.

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                          • Originally posted by stephenafreter View Post
                            Hey Luc,

                            Thanks for your thanks man, best blessings for you also

                            Yes everybody just try to do his best, after that the results and improvment of our lives belong to the one in charge of all that curiously beautiful universe ...

                            By the way I didn't realized it was AC

                            Of course with AC not much collapsing field to collect as we get with pulsed DC. I mean it's quite different in concept.
                            So the mystery is even bigger for me, because you use AC and get this strange effect.

                            Could we use this in parallel of our AC appliances (light, fan, fridge, ...) to reduce their consumption

                            Much interesting and valuable stuff again Luc !
                            Keep up the great work mon ami,
                            MDG
                            Thanks stephenafreter

                            It is interesting that it works in the range of the AC power grid. I will definitely be looking at this since maybe we could create a small unite that people could make themselves to use to help lower power consumption with a fixed load like a heating element. I don't think it would work on a non fixed resistive load as it would not stay in resonance but who knows what could be done with this.

                            Time and more experiments will tell.

                            &

                            Luc

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                            • Originally posted by broli View Post
                              Luc have you thought of turning that sound it makes back into electricity. I'm no expert on this but one could use microphones or some other piezo electric vibrating means to extract some electricity out of it.

                              The good part I would think is that the output frequency is directly usable without any conversion as the sound oscillates at the same frequency as the current input.
                              Hi broli,

                              thanks for the good suggestion. I think that once the magnet is in the right size of cavity it may not be vibrating on the side walls of the core like the demo. However I could be wrong and maybe it's required!... in that case we could definitely create a tuned resonator cavity to amplify the sound and use a speaker that its own free air resonance matches the resonator resonance for maximum output.

                              Thanks for sharing.

                              Luc

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                              • Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
                                @Gotoluc:
                                I speak german too, i could ask the youtube user too. I will actually just point him to this thread and leave it to him to join in.

                                @Broli,
                                i personally think that`s a brilliant idea ! Why leave the (sometimes annoying ) sound unused ?

                                Piezos have been used in the Magnetic Resonance Amplifier with great effect.
                                They do have quite high resonance frequencies though in the kHz range and luc has found the sweet spot way below 1kHz.

                                Theoretically though, if you could find a piezo that has its resonance frequency at exactly THAT sweetspot (or small multiples of it), you would get quite something out of that i believe.

                                Maybe if there was not so fragile,easily breakable piezos, you could use that inside the core and have the kinetic energy of the magnet pushing against the material be converted to electricity maybe too.

                                That would be awesome to tap different kind of energies here (sound,pressure) and in the same time use the movevement of the magnet to induce electricty.
                                Hi Xenomorph,

                                Thanks for the offer to invite the YouTube user to participate if he can. Please do so and let us know if he replies.

                                I agree that Piezos would be out of the audio spectrum for this, that's why I recommended to broli (above) to use a regular free air moving speaker.

                                Thanks for your help.

                                Luc

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