Resonance Effects For Everyone To Share

[stevie1001]

mistake in measuring inputpower?

Here is a diagram that was done Groundloop of my complete test setup at this time.


Please take note that the mag wire, capacitors, diodes and resistors I used were all things I had on hand or salvaged from other things, so this is why (for example) the coils have two different wire gauges, the resistors are different and so one. I like to recycle as much as I can. I also have no job and no income, so I have to be creative

On this note!... I have to thank my friend Lucie who has a job and has let me stay at her home with supplied meal free of charge. Without her support I don't think I would be able to do as much as I have been doing.

Test setup diagram:


Groundloop's Switch circuit:


Connections to circuit:


Thank you once again Groundloop for your sleepless services to help all.

Luc

Hi Gotulec,

Good work and i love your efforts and results in this field of research!
I just checked your schematic after you said in your video how it was possible and what was happening.

I think i have found a little mistake in your way of measuring the input power.

The place where the first ampmeter is placed is NOT right in my opinion.
You measure amps before the rectifierbridge and not the voltage as well.

The power relation is different before and after a bridgerecitifier. P=U.I

You now measure amps in ac enviroment, so that means you have to measure in RMS. Does your meter measure rms?

Please make a setup where you have the ampmeter and voltmeter after your capacitor after the rectifierbridge.

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Steve
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[Jules Tresor]

I made an observation ...

Hey Luc,

while i was thinking that you did not account for the energy filling the capacitors on your video 9 when you calculated the power output;

i get the following idea:

we observe 2 seconds of increase on the voltage of your 9 volt batteries when you start the coil circuit, then draining of the batteries starts again ...

what if that temporary excess energy was because the capacitors are charging, so more radiant energy is circulating in the circuit, supplying also the power for the H-bridge, then stopping the draining of the batteries;

then when the caps are full, less radiant is circulating, then the batteries are again drained to run the H-bridge !

because we know already that more we load on an open circuit, more radiant is coming, we should have the charging of the caps to happen on a continuous basis, to keep the radiant flow high.

may be you could try a pulsating discharge of the caps, to keep the load higher than just with the resistors.

to resume, the idea i get was that it's the charging of the caps, when you connect the coil circuit, that pumps more radiant energy, and then like more radiant is flowing in the circuit during this short time, the batteries are no more drained, and they can take back some voltage

oh, a simple test to confirm that could be to open the coil circuit without the caps, with direct connexion to the resistors;
if we don't see these 2 seconds where the batteries voltage goes up, it means that the idea was right, and that it's the higher flow of radiant used to charge the caps that is responsable for this batteries recovery time ...

it's kind of the charging capacitor on the output of the Bedini self-oscillator or monopole circuits; the cap is discharged at an adequate frequency into a load, depending at which speed it can charge.

ok, that's it for my idea

good luck,
MDG

[Jetijs]

Yes Jetijs, you are getting it

That coil should work even better with a 550pf or so

We should all get a variable capacitor for experimenting: AIR VARIABLE CAPACITOR -3 sect.x 10~430pF HAM RADIO #1 - eBay (item 130276804974 end time Dec-19-08 20:49:16 PST)

This will help allot. I just bought the one above

Any 12 to 400 should be fine.

Luc

Thank you Luc
I used two stainless steel plates with a sheet of paper between them. And to adjust the capacity I just slided the pates on and off each other. Of course those variable caps are way better
Thanks again!

[chemelec]

@ Gotoluc. I have been following your progress mate, you are doing great

I am still getting parts together for the H bridge flip flop, I am having trouble locating the mosfet drivers. Does groundloop recommend any other suitable parts?

I was hoping to configure the tl494 chip that Erfinder got me onto to perform a similar function, it has flip flop capabilities and would be ideal for me because I am already familiar with it and it is easily obtained. Maybe Groundloop would be kind enough to look at it sometime. As it is, I dont have access to a signal generator, which is the only thing holding me back.

I was hoping I could use a PWM chip (tl494 or even simple 555) in place of your (AC?) signal generator? If this is suitable, its frequencies would simply need to be broad enough I guess to allow for sweeping.

Let me know if you have any advice.

Rather than a 555 or TL594, Get an XR2206 and build yourself a DESCENT Function Generator. It Generates Sine, Square and Triangle Waveforms and up to 1 Mhz.
I can supply you one, if its a problem.

[gotoluc]

Your idea to use the batteries as power was great

We clearly see that the depleting rate is not negatively influenced by the connection of the coils ... it even seems to give power for 2 secondes, then slow down the draining of the batteries !! Yahoooo !

I hope people will join to sponsor your experiments to buy some material at least, to see if the effect can be multiplied, buy adding more coils, or different size coils, or bigger loads, etc ...

By the way, can you light tubes at close range from the running coils without disturbing the caps charging ?

I don't know the price of wire spool and parts you need, but i scare that 100 Euros is not enough

I'm sure I will be soon able to send you more, God willing, because if you can increase the effect you will need to get more material; we can not let this stand without investigating it more deeply !

Together we can make more work, and I invite everybody that can not put the hands on the work like me, to at least try to support the experimenters, like the great guys we have on this forum !!

Yahooooo !
Good luck everybody,

Congratulations Luc

MDG

Thank you stephenafreterm for your financial assitance

Funds have been received and not to worry as I have become a smart shopper over the years and your 100 Euros will go a long way

It will light a fluorescent bulb as the cap are under load but it shows a .1 volt drop, actually if I wave my had by it does the same.

No need to send me more funds at this time.

Thank for all your help .

Luc

[gotoluc]

Hey Luc,

while i was thinking that you did not account for the energy filling the capacitors on your video 9 when you calculated the power output;

i get the following idea:

we observe 2 seconds of increase on the voltage of your 9 volt batteries when you start the coil circuit, then draining of the batteries starts again ...

what if that temporary excess energy was because the capacitors are charging, so more radiant energy is circulating in the circuit, supplying also the power for the H-bridge, then stopping the draining of the batteries;

then when the caps are full, less radiant is circulating, then the batteries are again drained to run the H-bridge !

because we know already that more we load on an open circuit, more radiant is coming, we should have the charging of the caps to happen on a continuous basis, to keep the radiant flow high.

may be you could try a pulsating discharge of the caps, to keep the load higher than just with the resistors.

to resume, the idea i get was that it's the charging of the caps, when you connect the coil circuit, that pumps more radiant energy, and then like more radiant is flowing in the circuit during this short time, the batteries are no more drained, and they can take back some voltage

oh, a simple test to confirm that could be to open the coil circuit without the caps, with direct connexion to the resistors;
if we don't see these 2 seconds where the batteries voltage goes up, it means that the idea was right, and that it's the higher flow of radiant used to charge the caps that is responsable for this batteries recovery time ...

it's kind of the charging capacitor on the output of the Bedini self-oscillator or monopole circuits; the cap is discharged at an adequate frequency into a load, depending at which speed it can charge.

ok, that's it for my idea

good luck,
MDG

Hi stephenafreter,

the temporary reversal of voltage you see is only because at the selected frequency I used in the demo the coils are actually sending energy back to the switching side of the circuit

So if I keep tuning down it sends more but less at the caps and if I tune back up it will reverse and will start showing a draw from the switch side but much more volts at the loaded capacitors side.

I hope my explanation is understandable?

So basically all I did for this demo is I tuned it to show that we can create power at no cost or drain of ma from the switching source.

Luc

[radik]

Rather than a 555 or TL594, Get an XR2206 and build yourself a DESCENT Function Generator. It Generates Sine, Square and Triangle Waveforms and up to 1 Mhz.
I can supply you one, if its a problem.

Here is a function generator 0.001Hz to 20Mhz using max038 and pic16f877. Files include pic code.

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@Gotoluc
Hey Luc, great vids. Thanks for sharing

[Bodkins]

Thank you stephenafreterm for your financial assitance

Funds have been received and not to worry as I have become a smart shopper over the years and your 100 Euros will go a long way

It will light a fluorescent bulb as the cap are under load but it shows a .1 volt drop, actually if I wave my had by it does the same.

No need to send me more funds at this time.

Thank for all your help .

Luc

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[cody]

I cant hold my toung anymore

Luc, I was so pleased when i saw you posting about using a variable capacitor. This is a very important key to the final design of this i believe. We both naturally came up with this variable cap idea so i believe thats a step in the right direction. You are the leader in this subject and i respect your work. I have been beatin around the bush with my comments, but now that i see you came to the same conclusion im lettin loose with the other key to this. Please watch my variable inductor movie.YouTube - variables in resonant circuits
In reverse engineering this technology, i believe it would be wise to follow the footsteps of the true master here, so here is my theory of one end goal for this project as provided by the man himself.
YouTube - theory
Thank you for your time and all the work you have done, and keep those vids coming. Ill post some of my results when im ready.

[Jules Tresor]

Thank for the explanation Luc

I'm happy if we can get free light or even free heat one day in an open source project system.

I'll do whatever I can to help.

Great work Luc, as usual

Keep up the good work,

au revoir et bonne chance,
MDG

[gotoluc]

Luc, I was so pleased when i saw you posting about using a variable capacitor. This is a very important key to the final design of this i believe. We both naturally came up with this variable cap idea so i believe thats a step in the right direction. You are the leader in this subject and i respect your work. I have been beatin around the bush with my comments, but now that i see you came to the same conclusion im lettin loose with the other key to this. Please watch my variable inductor movie.YouTube - variables in resonant circuits
In reverse engineering this technology, i believe it would be wise to follow the footsteps of the true master here, so here is my theory of one end goal for this project as provided by the man himself.
YouTube - theory
Thank you for your time and all the work you have done, and keep those vids coming. Ill post some of my results when im ready.

Hi cody,

great video and variable inductor idea you have there ... I guess the enamel coating is removed on the mag wire where the wiper rubs?

You should be able to quickly test many frequency effects of the primary on the secondary or vice-versa this way I'm wondering if the remaining coil (from where the wiper is set) will have any effects on the results?

This is great all what you have done and I'm really happy to have you working with us.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

[cody]

Yes, the enamel is scraped off on top the coil to allow contact with the wiper. Care must be taken to not scrap the enamel off between the turns(shorting the turns), just on top. The remaining coil does not appear to have any effect on its function as the electricity takes the path of least resistance, at least thats what my tests have shown so far. Thank you for your support.

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

after more testing and me now blowing 6 of the IR2103's to date!... Groundloop has made more mods to his circuit with a suggestion from user Chris31 at OU.

Please find the link to the revised circuit. I will also update the link from the previous posts.

Updated Circuit: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?a...ch=28628;image

Thanks

Luc

[Jetijs]

Thanks Luc
Good that I haven't received all the parts yet and blown away some mosfets

[Inquorate]

Blowing up

This is a good thing. Blowing up means 'not standard operation' - that's what we're looking for. :-)